have u ever cut?

[oli]

jfc oli you are literally ridiculous

it's fine to have an opinion.. but to be so rude about it? :rolleyes:

(i hate to do this but)

when i first hurt myself i wasn't even thinking how i usually would. like i didn't think to myself at the time i did it "oh i'm gonna hurt myself" i just did it because i needed to get away from everything... it's like i thought about it but i wasn't telling myself to do it and it just kinda happened and after it was all a blur lol, my mind wasn't saying "don't do this!!!! it's bad for u" for me that came wayyyy after

i don't think you should really judge it if you've never done it either. obviously people shouldn't feel like they have to do it nor is it the best option but for many people they believe it to be the only option (rather than something more serious) or just an 'easy' option for a quick release of pain. and u've gotta understand, u may think cutting yourself is scary but also thinking horrible thoughts in ur head could be equally as bad (or worse!!) soooo people would much rather 'distract' themselves and think about that.

as for the things that happen after cutting (like many people feel anxious about their cuts, hide them, feel ashamed, etc.) it's different for all people. i really hated the hiding bit but i realised that the relief it gave me was really great

also as for the happiness thing, happiness isn't a goal for everyone and u cannot be expected to be happy all the time. happiness for some people is hard to achieve (and it's totally okay and not their fault) and also bEING SAD ISN'T THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CUT. THEY MAY FEEL OTHER EMOTIONS TOO WHICH LEADS THEM TO IT. and ur point about bc we don't live in a third world country... .. ... are you ******* kidding me lol? you're so narrow minded.

sorry if i've repeated any of the points anyones said but he honestly disgusted me and this might not make any sense bc tired

also i liked this and thought it might be worth u reading

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Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.It’s almost hard for me to take in because really, happiness has always been a goal. A destination. The end all be all of every day. What we all strive for. To be happy.
But it’s ok to not be happy. It’s ok to be sad, frustrated, worried, down…it’s ok. Because just like happiness they are moods. They are something just as ok to feel as happiness is. And when sometimes it seems like things are against you and one thing after another is just going…wrong. It’s ok to not be happy. And it’s ok to own it, to put it on and know that it’s how you feel. Because ignoring it, putting the other emotions in a box on a shelf…just means one day you have a really full box you can no longer ignore.
A box full of people who have let you down. People who have hurt and betrayed you. A box with anger over the things that blew up in your face. A box with regrets of the things you did, and maybe the things you didn’t do. A box with frustrations over things that didn’t go the way you think they should have. A box full of worries for the things that hang over your head. A box of bad days. A box that ends up making you anxious when you have to stuff more into it.
And I’m tired of feeling like these feelings aren’t ok. I’m tired of being filled with anxiety when I see certain names or when I’m reminded of the things I’ve stuffed into the box. I am tired of feeling pressure (pressure I’ve placed on my own shoulders) to place the destination of happiness above the reality of owning my emotions.
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.
And just like all other moods, it’s not a permanent state of being. And that’s ok. I need to own all the other things when I feel them. Because they are moods. They are ok.
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.

i don't understand how someones mind would stop working and the only instruction given from the brain would be to cut urself
and we are constantly flooded with all these DIFFERENT options to take, theyre on buses, at school, on billboards, on the tv, on the internet, even on habbo, so why would anybody believe that their only choice would be to bring a blade to their skin? the idea just astounds me. yes happiness can be hard to achieve but who isn't aiming to be happy? that is a terrible outlook on life to aspire to be anything but happy

and that spoiler thing:
its all dependent on the fact that you focus on the past, but if you focus on the past its not going to change anything, like ive said before you should live in the present, its a gift, dont be ungrateful for it, love it, relish it and enjoy it, theres not point going back in time that doesnt matter.

ps im sorry if i upset all of u didnt realise it would all be taken to heart

[geo]

i don't understand how someones mind would stop working and the only instruction given from the brain would be to cut urself
and we are constantly flooded with all these DIFFERENT options to take, theyre on buses, at school, on billboards, on the tv, on the internet, even on habbo, so why would anybody believe that their only choice would be to bring a blade to their skin? the idea just astounds me. yes happiness can be hard to achieve but who isn't aiming to be happy? that is a terrible outlook on life to aspire to be anything but happy

and that spoiler thing:
its all dependent on the fact that you focus on the past, but if you focus on the past its not going to change anything, like ive said before you should live in the present, its a gift, dont be ungrateful for it, love it, relish it and enjoy it, theres not point going back in time that doesnt matter.

ps im sorry if i upset all of u didnt realise it would all be taken to heart

(ignoring cutting bit bc i literally have made my point n it probably won't change but ok)

happiness isn't the aim for all people though, like for me i aim to just be satisfied with everything i've done with my life and think to myself that i couldn't have done anymore and that i tried my best to get their. if i'm happy along the way then sure that's great, but i'm not gonna aim for happiness, it's just a nice lil extra for me??

[myles]

can people just leave oli alone he made a mistake you dont need to ******* abuse him over it
he is 16

[Yawn]

no1 abusing him he is INFURIATING and deserves every1 writing essays at him

[IzzyUhh]

Just everyones opinions matter, but when it comes to them being rude and i spose in some cases Hurtful, Its bad.

[myles]

no1 abusing him he is INFURIATING and deserves every1 writing essays at him

yes they are they are attacking him with long paragraphs and his little body probably cant deal with it
cant u see with his weak comebacks
bless his little heart he is trying but everyone needs to stop as i said he is only a 16 year old boy and still not at full mature age

[Onirela]

this needs a signal boost right now
rosie seems to be talking a whole lot of sense

i haven't bothered reading most of this thread because your ignorance angers me to the point that i literally can not bare to read anymore so correct me if someone has already stated what i'm about to say or if i'm wrong about something.


actually it does, when someone cuts themselves their brain reacts to the pain by releasing endorphins, which immediately bring a calming affect and makes them feel somewhat happier, some people describe this as numbing the emotional pain. endorphins are really addictive and it's hard to give up immediately which is why people find it hard to stop cutting. people don't enjoy cutting they are just hooked on the relief that the releasing of endorphins provides. some people become dependent on endorphins as their brain eventually keeps needing more and more of the source to keep the addiction under control, just like a drug addiction, you keep taking the drugs to keep your drug addiction under control, in this case imagine the drugs as cutting, if you have developed this 'addiction' it is then too late to just give up and quit. when you try to stop cutting straight away you have withdrawal symptons and end up panicing, which just adds to the stress (in this case i understand why some people may think it just causes more problems and does not help).

endorphins are the same chemical that are released when you exercise and are your brains way of handling pain or dress to the body and they calm you down if you're upset, which is why some people prefer to take walks alone when they're sad because walking is a form of exercise and some people exercise to make them happy, but i know i certainly don't want to exercise when i'm sad but different people are different. like georgia stated above, people cut for all different reasons, not just because they're sad but because they are feeling other emotions.


speaking from experience, i personally don't believe anyone cuts for attention, i believe everyone has their reasons. some people cut because they feel completely lonely, this meaning they have no one around them to trust or to talk to, maybe they're tried to trust in the people who are close to them, as i know one of the reasons i began cutting was because of this exact point, i felt that the people around me didn't care enough about me, i was constantly isolated and felt that no one cared, infact no one knew about it except one person on this forum, with this made me overthink how lonely i actually was, i had no one to speak to other than one person who lives like 200 miles away from me, no one around me actually cared and i felt like i couldn't go through life with no one physically by my side. i had no one to trust in.


sometimes people can only see the bad parts of life, if there are so many bad things in your life it is so hard to enjoy the good things or even understand the good things because you are so overwhelmed by the sadness that it slowly begins to take over your life, this is where depression have a big effect on you.

unless you have experienced cutting it's very hard to understand why it helps and until you have been in that situation you will never understand, no one should ever have to understand, if you don't understand how someone could cut themselves, good, you should never have to be that desperate to feel something.

[oli]

i haven't bothered reading most of this thread because your ignorance angers me to the point that i literally can not bare to read anymore so correct me if someone has already stated what i'm about to say or if i'm wrong about something.


actually it does, when someone cuts themselves their brain reacts to the pain by releasing endorphins, which immediately bring a calming affect and makes them feel somewhat happier, some people describe this as numbing the emotional pain. endorphins are really addictive and it's hard to give up immediately which is why people find it hard to stop cutting. people don't enjoy cutting they are just hooked on the relief that the releasing of endorphins provides. some people become dependent on endorphins as their brain eventually keeps needing more and more of the source to keep the addiction under control, just like a drug addiction, you keep taking the drugs to keep your drug addiction under control, in this case imagine the drugs as cutting, if you have developed this 'addiction' it is then too late to just give up and quit. when you try to stop cutting straight away you have withdrawal symptons and end up panicing, which just adds to the stress (in this case i understand why some people may think it just causes more problems and does not help).

endorphins are the same chemical that are released when you exercise and are your brains way of handling pain or dress to the body and they calm you down if you're upset, which is why some people prefer to take walks alone when they're sad because walking is a form of exercise and some people exercise to make them happy, but i know i certainly don't want to exercise when i'm sad but different people are different. like georgia stated above, people cut for all different reasons, not just because they're sad but because they are feeling other emotions.


speaking from experience, i personally don't believe anyone cuts for attention, i believe everyone has their reasons. some people cut because they feel completely lonely, this meaning they have no one around them to trust or to talk to, maybe they're tried to trust in the people who are close to them, as i know one of the reasons i began cutting was because of this exact point, i felt that the people around me didn't care enough about me, i was constantly isolated and felt that no one cared, infact no one knew about it except one person on this forum, with this made me overthink how lonely i actually was, i had no one to speak to other than one person who lives like 200 miles away from me, no one around me actually cared and i felt like i couldn't go through life with no one physically by my side. i had no one to trust in.


sometimes people can only see the bad parts of life, if there are so many bad things in your life it is so hard to enjoy the good things or even understand the good things because you are so overwhelmed by the sadness that it slowly begins to take over your life, this is where depression have a big effect on you.

unless you have experienced cutting it's very hard to understand why it helps and until you have been in that situation you will never understand, no one should ever have to understand, if you don't understand how someone could cut themselves, good, you should never have to be that desperate to feel something.

whilst you're cutting, you're in pain. this pain is your brain telling you to stop doing it, you sub consciously dont want to be cutting clearly but if you're in pain you also consciously dont want to be cutting. and the fact that cutting releases a drug which calms you isn't a good thing, because as you said it's addictive so it is clearly not a helpful thing.

why did you cut if nobody was interested in talking to you? what made you think that you need to harm yourself?

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(ignoring cutting bit bc i literally have made my point n it probably won't change but ok)

happiness isn't the aim for all people though, like for me i aim to just be satisfied with everything i've done with my life and think to myself that i couldn't have done anymore and that i tried my best to get their. if i'm happy along the way then sure that's great, but i'm not gonna aim for happiness, it's just a nice lil extra for me??

yes but if you complete your aim you're going to feel happy! do you get where im coming from?

[Yawn]

oli its pretty evident that nothing is as simple as ur making it out to be pls stop

u r annoying i swear u just overlook everything its painful to read

[geo]

whilst you're cutting, you're in pain. this pain is your brain telling you to stop doing it, you sub consciously dont want to be cutting clearly but if you're in pain you also consciously dont want to be cutting. and the fact that cutting releases a drug which calms you isn't a good thing, because as you said it's addictive so it is clearly not a helpful thing.

why did you cut if nobody was interested in talking to you? what made you think that you need to harm yourself?

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yes but if you complete your aim you're going to feel happy! do you get where im coming from?

yes but not permanently? like my AIM isn't happiness, it's a bonus. i will feel satisfied with myself and possibly good about myself (or aspects i wasn't before). happiness could leave me soon after or it could take a while to go. i'm just saying feelings go and i'd rather strive for self approval(? /acceptance) than happiness lol