My view on Arsenal

[Mortalized]

I think you should keep Bendtner too as he would probably develope into a great player in 2/3 years.

Thats the worst comment ever seen on this forum

[Tristan]

At the start of the season Adebayor was still playing off Henry even though he was without his presence. I don't think he's half the player that he was when he actually was playing off Henry.

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How'd you work that out?!
Last season, their linking was very poor. Henry and Adebayor imo, are very simular mentally. They're the front man, that gets the goals and recieves good balls from the other players on the team. They have their eyes on goal, they shoot and often don't look for the pass when in or near the 18 yard box.
He's much better without Henry, but he needs a good forward to supply him.

What? Get rid of Adebyor!?

He's well good. I think you should keep Bendtner too as he would probably develope into a great player in 2/3 years.

LOL.
Bendtner is awful. Put him up for sale, get a few quid for him. If someone doesn't buy him, give him a free transfer.

[Xeck]

I need to get this out so here goes;

Firstly, David Dein should come back because he was an excellent chairman and he always backed Wenger financially as well as mentally. He was a great owner and wasn't just in it for the money. One of the main reasons why Thierry Henry left was because of David Dein's departure - it just proves what a close relationship Dein had with all the players. You don't get that at every club.

If Usamanov takes the majority of Arsenal then he's our owner. Another foreigner who knows nothing about football and nothing about England or tradition or anything. The only thing he knows about is money. He can piss off.

Secondly, Wenger's time is up. Yes, okay, he's won things with Arsenal but he's not winning things. He hasn't done so for 3 seasons now and beautiful, stylish football doesn't make up for not winning trophies. I'm sure we can find a suitable replacement.

I'd like to see Allardyce at Arsenal if I'm honest because I believe his approach would help. Mourinho would be ideal but we all know he wouldn't. We won't get a new manager anyway because the Arsenal board have there noses up his buttocks.

Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

Anyway, that's what I think is the downfall over the past couple of years.

Most of what I feel has been said already so I'll keep this brief and stick to key points. Firstly, I think that the notion that Wenger needs to be replaced is ridiculous, especially if you want him replaced with someone like Allardyce who in my opinion is half the manager Wenger is. At the moment, I hope he doesn't leave for at least another decade or so because simply he's one of the best in the world and is exceptionally important to the club for reasons stated above.

Secondly, I'm shocked that you think we should get rid of some players who are the backbone of our squad such as Gallas and Adebayor. Gallas may not be captain-material but he is one of the best central defenders in the Premiership. Adebayor is our top goal scorer this season and has clearly shown a massive improvement in his game and just how good of a player he is. To get rid of him would be suicide, it would be like Liverpool getting rid of Torres. I do agree that Eboue needs to be replaced, as he doesn't seem good enough but I disagree that we should get rid of Senderos who has been, apart from a few games this season, in excellent form for us. Although Van Persie is injury prone he is an excellent player and has already scored key goals for us and proved his ability. Bendtner deserves a bit more patience as he is young and still learning, to get rid of him at this stage would be foolish. As for Gilberto, he was one of our players of the season last season and seems only to be off-form because of the lack of games he's played because of how influential Flamini has proved. Considering Flamini's future at Arsenal is not yet secured, and that when on form Gilberto is an excellent player, it would be foolish to get rid of him as well.

On to the key players you would keep, I agree those six are important, but I'm shocked you'd miss out Toure, Sagna, Eduardo and even Alumunia [as stated below, not world class, but clearly good enough], as well as some of the players you mentioned in players you'd like to leave. Toure is a world-class talent, Sagna has come into the team and played as if he's been here for a good 5 years already, Eduardo could clearly be an important player for us if he still is the same player when he recovers due to his goal scoring ability and Almunia has made hardly any, if any, key errors this season and has been consistent in goal.

In conclusion, I almost 100% disagree with you. If we rid our team of some of it's best players and Arsene Wenger we probably wont see silverware for many, many years to come. Arsene Wenger has a team of youngsters that should do nothing but improve, and considering the talent he brings in for often very low prices [financially beneficial too, Wenger has made a significant profit on players going in/out of the club], I'm very optimistic about the seasons to come for Arsenal, I'm sure silverware will come soon providing we're not hit with bad luck or more injuries. I don't even want Wenger to bring in that many players and respect that he's keeping faith in the team we have now. People always seem to doubt him, like when the media blasted him for saying we could go a season unbeaten, and then what did we go and do the following season? I do agree of course that Usmanov can rightfully piss off, but I say the same to David Dein.

Apologies for such a large post, but I can't stress enough how shocked I am at your opinions on who our key players are/are not, and it's very rare I come along an Arsenal fan who doubts Arsene Wenger, I assure you the vast majority are still 100% behind him.

That is where Wenger is going wrong. Look at liverpool, spending £26.5m for Torres, people were thinking Benitez was mad spending that amount of money, but look whats happened, Torres has proved to be a revelation in his first season. Scoring 30 goals so far. Arsenal need to buy big this summer and get class internationals, before making a serious title challenge. As buying kids wont help, as they have next to no experience in big matches.

In response to this, although I agree the team lacked experience in how to deal with the close to this season, the youngsters now have experience in big matches and in a title race, because for more than half the season we were top of the league and have made vast improvements upon the last two seasons where we finished 4th without any real challenge for the title for the entire campaign. As for spending big, Arsene has rarely "splashed the cash" since joining the club, and has still been very successful in terms of silverware. As for Torres, in all competitions this season he's only scored 3 more goals than Adebayor, who, according to Wikipedia, we only signed for "an undisclosed fee reported to be £3m". And they're the same age.

I've already said I think our youth can only improve, mentally through experience [which they would have gained a lot of from this season..] and ability-wise obviously because of their youth and because of our coaching staff. I'll stick with what I said before that I don't want Wenger to completely reform the team and if any I only want him to sign 2-3 new players. This team did put up a good challenge for the title this season, it's just a shame that it filtered out towards the end due to a combination of inexperience and a bit of bad luck.

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How'd you work that out?!
Last season, their linking was very poor. Henry and Adebayor imo, are very simular mentally. They're the front man, that gets the goals and recieves good balls from the other players on the team. They have their eyes on goal, they shoot and often don't look for the pass when in or near the 18 yard box.
He's much better without Henry, but he needs a good forward to supply him.

LOL.
Bendtner is awful. Put him up for sale, get a few quid for him. If someone doesn't buy him, give him a free transfer.

Agreed to the first part but I maintain what I said above about giving Bendtner more time.

[The Undertaker]

Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

Agreed with those 6 players, definetly our best.
Gallas makes some stupid decisions but is still a brilliant player. Eboue is a good player imo. Adebayor is one of those that got us to where we are. Van Persie hasn't found his feet since coming back from injury. The last three, i agree, should leave. They rarely do anything anymore and just seem to get in the way.

[Simmzay]

I can't believe you guys are hating on Bendtner. He's pure class, he's only 19 and he's made more of an impact than most of our strikers. He's already scored important goals for us and he rarely even gets a start.

[Geraint]

And the one player Wenger is supposedly going for, Ben Arfa, is a winger and Arsenal have two decent wingers.

[Simmzay]

We don't have ONE traditional winger. There isn't a single player in the squad whose natural position is a winger.

Hleb - in the hole
Eboue - right back
Rosicky - CM
Diaby - CM
Walcott - striker

[BlueMoon]

Arsenal are going for Heskey!!!

[Geraint]

We don't have ONE traditional winger. There isn't a single player in the squad whose natural position is a winger.

Hleb - in the hole
Eboue - right back
Rosicky - CM
Diaby - CM
Walcott - striker

Hleb and Walcott play very well as wingers.

[Gangster]

I need to get this out so here goes;

Firstly, David Dein should come back because he was an excellent chairman and he always backed Wenger financially as well as mentally. He was a great owner and wasn't just in it for the money. One of the main reasons why Thierry Henry left was because of David Dein's departure - it just proves what a close relationship Dein had with all the players. You don't get that at every club.

If Usamanov takes the majority of Arsenal then he's our owner. Another foreigner who knows nothing about football and nothing about England or tradition or anything. The only thing he knows about is money. He can piss off.

Secondly, Wenger's time is up. Yes, okay, he's won things with Arsenal but he's not winning things. He hasn't done so for 3 seasons now and beautiful, stylish football doesn't make up for not winning trophies. I'm sure we can find a suitable replacement.

I'd like to see Allardyce at Arsenal if I'm honest because I believe his approach would help. Mourinho would be ideal but we all know he wouldn't. We won't get a new manager anyway because the Arsenal board have there noses up his buttocks.

Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

Anyway, that's what I think is the downfall over the past couple of years.

Lol, adebayor, van persie and eboue should leave?