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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    On a slight off tangent, why do people and the media get bothered about the fact that White Britons will soon be a minority compared to everything else (and technically, they'll still be more White Britons than any other ethnic group).

    I mean, I could understand why people would be bothered if Britons were an ethnic minority in Britain, why why do only White Britons count? Really ticks me off...
    Because for such a large change to take place in such a short period of time, suggests mass immigration - which is what we've had, thanks to your Labour Party. Therefore what i'm getting at is that such a radical change in the colour of the nation (whilst not important) suggests a cultural change will accompany it - meaning that the British culture will be under threat. I don't want Britain to be ghettoised as it is now, or overtaken by other cultures and religions; in the words of Sir Patrick Moore "I haven't the slightest interest to integrate with anybody."

    I love my culture and I love my country, and I will not have them taken away from me. I don't want to feel like a foreigner in my own country.



    Nobody was ever asked about whether we wanted mass immigration.

    But in relation to Grig's post, I have faith we'll stop it before it's too late - otherwise we face a future of civil unrest as Enoch Powell predicted. I'd also add however that the Conservative Party is not the answer to this problem or any other we face, they're just as bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    On a slight off tangent, why do people and the media get bothered about the fact that White Britons will soon be a minority compared to everything else (and technically, they'll still be more White Britons than any other ethnic group).

    I mean, I could understand why people would be bothered if Britons were an ethnic minority in Britain, why why do only White Britons count? Really ticks me off...
    Because most other Britons migrated in the last few decades. Obviously they assimilate themselves through generations.

    I'm not racist, but Britain never originated as 'black' or 'Indian' or Eastern European. It stems from a white Anglo-Saxon culture, that's how you define identity. Each country has a unique identity or culture.

    People get bothered because the migration policies are out of hands, and more importantly race aside, statistics show that the country WILL NOT cope if immigration stays at current level. This would make these immigrants not be able to assimilate as well as they had done in the past.

    Although with history cultures change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    Because most other Britons migrated in the last few decades. Obviously they assimilate themselves through generations.

    I'm not racist, but Britain never originated as 'black' or 'Indian' or Eastern European. It stems from a white Anglo-Saxon culture, that's how you define identity. Each country has a unique identity or culture.

    People get bothered because the migration policies are out of hands, and more importantly race aside, statistics show that the country WILL NOT cope if immigration stays at current level. This would make these immigrants not be able to assimilate as well as they had done in the past.

    Although with history cultures change.
    Don't worry, I wasn't attacking you individually, I was just attacking the term in general really. I don't think you, or anyone that just uses white Britons is racist Of course Britain started out white, but that was such a long time ago now, I just think it misleads the statistics a bit... And does this not mean that Americans statistics should lead with how native Americans have been pushed out?

    And @-:Undertaker:-; you always say 'my Labour party'. I'm not actually a Labour supporter? Yes, I prefer Labour over the Conservatives, but I don't actually support their party. And the only election I've voted in, the crime comissioners, I voted based on the person rather than political alignment. (She lost anyways )

    When it actually comes to the general election, I have no clue who I will vote for. Not that it would come to much difference, as my constituency has a large majority for the conservatives. Infact, the Lib Dems came 2nd pushing Labour to 3rd last time round in 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    Don't worry, I wasn't attacking you individually, I was just attacking the term in general really. I don't think you, or anyone that just uses white Britons is racist Of course Britain started out white, but that was such a long time ago now, I just think it misleads the statistics a bit... And does this not mean that Americans statistics should lead with how native Americans have been pushed out?

    And @-:Undertaker:-; you always say 'my Labour party'. I'm not actually a Labour supporter? Yes, I prefer Labour over the Conservatives, but I don't actually support their party. And the only election I've voted in, the crime comissioners, I voted based on the person rather than political alignment. (She lost anyways )

    When it actually comes to the general election, I have no clue who I will vote for. Not that it would come to much difference, as my constituency has a large majority for the conservatives. Infact, the Lib Dems came 2nd pushing Labour to 3rd last time round in 2010.
    Yeh Tories are supposed to do much less so for immigration, yet they aren't do anything much. Labour is much worse though. It depends, hard to be a maverick in politics nowadays. This is why as Dan shows with his numerous statistics, the UKIP have been gaining. Although for this particular case, the EU is very much to blame.

    Also, yeh you can use my argument for anything, for example, could we count White South Africans as South African . Same case you said with native Americans, it is an interesting concept! Yet, the difference is this is happening now, it's not a historical issue, but an issue that can be tackled at the present moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    Yeh Tories are supposed to do much less so for immigration, yet they aren't do anything much. Labour is much worse though. It depends, hard to be a maverick in politics nowadays. This is why as Dan shows with his numerous statistics, the UKIP have been gaining. Although for this particular case, the EU is very much to blame.

    Also, yeh you can use my argument for anything, for example, could we count White South Africans as South African . Same case you said with native Americans, it is an interesting concept! Yet, the difference is this is happening now, it's not a historical issue, but an issue that can be tackled at the present moment.
    I agree in all cases here And what I'm saying isn't trying to divert anyone from the current issue, because that's quite plain to see really White Britons are currently 80.5% of the population of England and Wales, the next largest group after this is Other White with ~4.5% - the majority of these probably are from Europe.

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    I feel sorry for those migrating or immigrating to Britain for the culture and to become a part of that culture. More so for black Britons who happily assimilated themselves years before EU mass immigration yet because of the strange fluctuation have become part of the problem by no fault of their own.

    It's disturbing how Labour let this happen and so few countries that are part of the EU have shown little resistance to it when the main countries (Western Europe) and their populations must love their own individual cultures? It's definitely a problem with being an island nation, the EU never bothered to look at how geography effects cultural, political and social factors :/

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