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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Not really, having independence is a lot more than only a currency.



    It's also been stated under no circumstance can we use the GBP, then that got changed very quickly didn't it?

    Like every other scaremongering tactic got shot down.
    It is more, but if you're not willing to sacrifice a British form of currency once you go independent then why even make the effort. Clearly not going at it whole heartedly if you're prepared to pick and choose lol????
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Not really, having independence is a lot more than only a currency.



    It's also been stated under no circumstance can we use the GBP, then that got changed very quickly didn't it?
    How did it change? There is no physical way they can stop you using it unless they send people into scotland to remove every single note. So that point is totally invalid, the matter of the fact is that there is no way they will let you control taxes and a lot of your economic policy if they do agree to one which isn't total independence ....

    You're still going to ruled by england when it comes to important matters such a taxes if there is a currency union lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intersocial View Post
    It is more, but if you're not willing to sacrifice a British form of currency once you go independent then why even make the effort. Clearly not going at it whole heartedly if you're prepared to pick and choose lol????
    'why even make the effort' 'it is more'... you answered it yourself? there's a lot more to independence than currency, and no-ones voting independence to get rid of the Bank of England or the currency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    'why even make the effort' 'it is more'... you answered it yourself? there's a lot more to independence than currency, and no-ones voting independence to get rid of the Bank of England or the currency.
    They are voting to become free of england, which includes the CURRENCY as its theirs
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    Quote Originally Posted by sex View Post
    How did it change? There is no physical way they can stop you using it unless they send people into scotland to remove every single note. So that point is totally invalid, the matter of the fact is that there is no way they will let you control taxes and a lot of your economic policy if they do agree to one which isn't total independence ....

    You're still going to ruled by england when it comes to important matters such a taxes if there is a currency union lol
    Because at the start they said there was no way possible we'd continue using it.. a scaremongering tactic that got changed very quickly. We would have full control of the taxes, the only stuff we wouldn't have control over is the BoE interest rates.

    Even if we vote no, we control our taxes if the promises of further Devolution are kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    'why even make the effort' 'it is more'... you answered it yourself? there's a lot more to independence than currency, and no-ones voting independence to get rid of the Bank of England or the currency.
    Then clearly you've all lost sense of the meaning of ''independent".

    "not depending on another for livelihood or subsistence."
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    Quote Originally Posted by sex View Post
    where will all the notes come from, obviously the ones scotland has wont last forever lol. especially if new notes are introduced etc

    notes can only stay in circulation for so long before they are taken out and replaced
    They'll have a Scottish Pound pegged to the GBP.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Because at the start they said there was no way possible we'd continue using it.. a scaremongering tactic that got changed very quickly. We would have full control of the taxes, the only stuff we wouldn't have control over is the BoE interest rates.

    Even if we vote no, we control our taxes if the promises of further Devolution are kept.
    Which is precisely why nobody wants a currency union without fiscal union. Scotland could become reckless in spending and put everyone at risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Because at the start they said there was no way possible we'd continue using it.. a scaremongering tactic that got changed very quickly. We would have full control of the taxes, the only stuff we wouldn't have control over is the BoE interest rates.

    Even if we vote no, we control our taxes if the promises of further Devolution are kept.
    No possible way you would be using it (in a currency union)... are you intentionally being this dense? The reasoning behind your falsely confident idea that you can somehow get a currency union (despite everybody important in making it happen saying no) is based on someone previously using the wrong syntax in their statement? Sound logic.
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    every1 loves a bit of scaremongering

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Presumably the bank will print more, idk specifics but we'll be using £.

    We'll most likely be getting a currency union with the UK anyway if we do vote Yes.
    With our weak polticians you may at first, but believe you me.. the rise of English nationalism that will come out of a YES vote will mean that such a currency union won't last long. If any currency union is made, that'll be one of the main issues I will be voting on in future - to end it asap.

    We're not prepared to see Scotland turn the Sterling into the Eurozone mk2. No thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intersocial View Post
    You can, but it makes your entire quest for independence an absolute joke because you've had to rely on a British form of currency still.
    But it's a joke in the first place.

    They want to keep the Pound Sterling, the currency of a foreign country.
    They want to get rid of Trident, yet naturally being on the same island as us they'll still be protected by it.

    The funniest thing of all though? Salmond says he wants independence.... yet he'll then go and surrender Scottish law-making to the EU.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Not really, having independence is a lot more than only a currency.
    A currency is one of the true signs of an independent sovereign state, as Euro nations have discovered to their own great cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz
    Which is precisely why nobody wants a currency union without fiscal union. Scotland could become reckless in spending and put everyone at risk.
    Indeed, which is why Salmond and the SNP are so clueless on this simple economic rule (but then again, a lot of our politicians were anyway). The Eurozone has proved clearly that you cannot have a monetary union without fiscal union and you can't have fiscal union without political union.

    Salmond only a few years ago was talking about joining the Euro, after all. What a great idea wee Alex.
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