Amy Winehouse found dead

[The Don]

Actually facts are on my side. Have you ever researched pedophilia before? It's a mental disorder. Fact. Homosexuality is not, why even mention it :S

Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children, not addicted to having sex with them...

Heterosexuals are attracted to people of the opposite sex
Homosexuals are attracted to people of the same sex
Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescence children
Bisexuals are attracted to people of from both sexes

Nowhere do I see an addiction...

[HotelUser]

Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children, not addicted to having sex with them...

Heterosexuals are attracted to people of the opposite sex
Homosexuals are attracted to people of the same sex
Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescence children
Bisexuals are attracted to people of from both sexes

Nowhere do I see an addiction...

http://www.way2hope.org/family-artic...-bar-cycle.htm (8 times they mention adict)

edit: by the way I love how everyone is just completely ignoring hard facts here!

[buttons]

http://www.way2hope.org/family-artic...-bar-cycle.htm (8 times they mention adict)

edit: by the way I love how everyone is just completely ignoring hard facts here!

like how you completely the ignore stories people have given to show that taking drugs isn't exactly for 'weak' or 'bad' people like you seem to have suggested before? why are you still arguing the whole pedophile thing in this thread, take it elsewhere..

[Judas]

Atleast I make sure I understand something before I pass judgement on it

well this is completely hypocritical seeing as you obviously don't understand amy winehouse's situation, and are passing judgement on that. and as jen said choosing to ignore the HARD FACTS as in personal experiences that slowpoke (don't know your real name soz) and i have had.

[The Don]

http://www.way2hope.org/family-artic...-bar-cycle.htm (8 times they mention adict)

edit: by the way I love how everyone is just completely ignoring hard facts here!

Because one article on the internet labels it as an addiction, that makes it true :rolleyes:

Way2hopes definition:

Pedophilia is a chronic compulsion for an adult to mentally dwell on, plan, attempt or carry out any kind of sexual activity with a child, whether that child is a relative or a stranger.

The Free Dictionary definition:

an adult who is sexually attracted to children

Notice how that differs? We can't continue this discussion as we both disagree with whether or not a pedophile chooses to be attracted to prepubescent children.

(quote from)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/paedophile

[HotelUser]

Because one article on the internet labels it as an addiction, that makes it true :rolleyes:

Way2hopes definition:


The Free Dictionary definition:


Notice how that differs? We can't continue this discussion as we both disagree with whether or not a pedophile chooses to be attracted to prepubescent children.

(quote from)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/paedophile

A singular sentenced definition of pedophilia is insufficient. Any medical professional would say there is a level of addiction because it's a fact that there is. I feel like I am trying to tel you the colour blue is blue and you are trying to say otherwise.

like how you completely the ignore stories people have given to show that taking drugs isn't exactly for 'weak' or 'bad' people like you seem to have suggested before? why are you still arguing the whole pedophile thing isln this thread, take it elsewhere..

Of course I am not ignoring those stories, and they're tragic and I feel bad for the victims. There are/were soldiers who come back from war after having endured all their friends dying in horrific deaths. Witnessing gouging, murder, suffering beyond anyone's wildest dreams yet there are soldiers within this group whom do not get addicted to drugs? No matter how bad it gets you. do. not. have. to. take. drugs. It is not the end all solution you do not have to do it. You can justify why you take them as much as you want but at the end of the day it's illegal, it's unhealthy and I stand by what I say when I say taking them is unnecessary and above all more stupid than anything I've ever heard in my entire life. Amy very well could have died from surplus exposure to drugs. Isn't it absolutely obvious that if that's the case and if she never got involved with drugs in the first place that she'd still be alive today? How about instead of making excuses for people's actions to justify the reasons people do dangerous, reckless and stupid things, we just own up to those things and not do them anymore. Drugs are not the only outlet to the world's problems and the people's suffering. The very notion that it is the most logical and reasonable approach to overcoming any sort of calamity is absurd.

[Judas]

Of course I am not ignoring those stories, and they're tragic and I feel bad for the victims. There are/were soldiers who come back from war after having endured all their friends dying in horrific deaths. Witnessing gouging, murder, suffering beyond anyone's wildest dreams yet there are soldiers within this group whom do not get addicted to drugs? No matter how bad it gets you. do. not. have. to. take. drugs. It is not the end all solution you do not have to do it. You can justify why you take them as much as you want but at the end of the day it's illegal, it's unhealthy and I stand by what I say when I say taking them is unnecessary and above all more stupid than anything I've ever heard in my entire life. Amy very well could have died from surplus exposure to drugs. Isn't it absolutely obvious that if that's the case and if she never got involved with drugs in the first place that she'd still be alive today? How about instead of making excuses for people's actions to justify the reasons people do dangerous, reckless and stupid things, we just own up to those things and not do them anymore. Drugs are not the only outlet to the world's problems and the people's suffering. The very notion that it is the most logical and reasonable approach to overcoming any sort of calamity is absurd.

how many times do you have to be told that it is NOT. A. CHOICE. TO. BECOME. ADDICTED. TO. DRUGS.

it makes me SO angry to know there are people like you that think people like my friends brother and amy winehouse decided they were going to become an addict and **** up their lives because of it. people like that are MENTALLY ILL. you do NOT just suddenly decide that you're going to get hooked on heroine and cocaine or whatever the **** it may be and let it screw up your entire life. these kind of events are triggered off by things in the person in question's life. people like that are troubled souls.

i am highly offended by you saying getting addicted is a stupid thing. so many lives are lost and families are torn apart by these incidents and it is such a shame that disrespectful idiots like you cannot see past the black and white face of these problems and understand what is underneath.

[HotelUser]

how many times do you have to be told that it is NOT. A. CHOICE. TO. BECOME. ADDICTED. TO. DRUGS.

it makes me SO angry to know there are people like you that think people like my friends brother and amy winehouse decided they were going to become an addict and **** up their lives because of it. people like that are MENTALLY ILL. you do NOT just suddenly decide that you're going to get hooked on heroine and cocaine or whatever the **** it may be and let it screw up your entire life. this kind of events are triggered off by things in the person in question's life. people like that are troubled souls.

i am highly offended by you saying getting addicted is a stupid thing. so many lives are lost and families are torn apart by these incidents and it is such a shame that disrespectful idiots like you cannot see past the black and white face of these problems and understand what is underneath.

I am saying not to start doing drugs in the first place no matter how bad it gets. I am not saying that once an addiction has taken hold it's easy to stop. For this reason your point is somewhat redundant because it's not disputing anything I've said.

It may not be someone's fault that they keep doing heroine once they're hooked.

It is their fault for taking it in the first place.

[Judas]

I am saying not to start doing drugs in the first place no matter how bad it gets. I am not saying that once an addiction has taken hold it's easy to stop. For this reason your point is somewhat redundant because it's not disputing anything I've said.

It may not be someone's fault that they keep doing heroine once they're hooked.

It is their fault for taking it in the first place.

**** me you are so ignorant

that is not always the case. sometimes people's lives are so complicated and destroyed by depression and mental health issues that there is no where else to turn to and their demons get the better of them.

i don't expect someone as ignorant as you to ever understand until it happens to someone you know or yourself. even though i really dislike you, after seeing what happened to my friend's brother i would never wish something like that on anyone.

[The Don]

A singular sentenced definition of pedophilia is insufficient. Any medical professional would say there is a level of addiction because it's a fact that there is. I feel like I am trying to tel you the colour blue is blue and you are trying to say otherwise.

http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Pedophilia.html

Pedophilia is also a psychosexual disorder in which the fantasy or actual act of engaging in sexual activity with prepubertal children is the preferred or exclusive means of achieving sexual excitement and gratification

Attraction.

You think that pedophilia is an addiction and that pedophiles can be cured, I think it's a mental disorder where the person is sexually attracted to prepubescent children and they can never be cured (Hence why I found the comparison bizarre) there are differing scientific views online.

Let's agree to disagree as this isn't the correct thread for this discussion.