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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave.
    La-ur-en I do think you take this mother nature stuff a bit to serious, I mean you are still on the computer wasting resources, but if you are against it....

    Coudent agree more :eusa_clap

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    Ok Now it's my turn to answer this. (sorry people if I type too much)

    1)War, yes we people make war. And animals?? They also fight, yes to survive but they still kill each other. Why do we make war?? To survive. If the americans and british people didn't come and safe us in WO2 most of us wouldn't be here. Yes war is wrong but we can't stay in our sofa and watch television while there is a wat going on. We have to help the countries. And if war is the only sollution for the safety of the people who will survive I say do it.

    2)Uhm we are animals. Only our brains are better (some animals are smarter and some people are super dumb). I hate people killing animals for fun but why do you think the wwf or grean peace is here? To help the beasts kill the animals?? No the collect money so they can put a stop to killing animals.

    3)Pollution. Yes there is too much pollution but do you think scientists aren't doing anything about it? They are searching for ways to solve the problem and they already found a way. America, where like you said there are 2 times to cars, is about to sell cars on water thingy (don't know what it's called in english ) And besides vulcanos also cause pollution not as much as cars but still they cause pollution.

    4)Oil, yes I agree we want more and more oil but that's because we need more and more oil. But scientists are searching for alternative energy sourches. Like those cars on water thingy (don't need to explain just read point 3).

    5) I agree that companies only care about money. But the normal ordinary people donate to wwf and grean peace and unicef and etc etc so we can safe animals and plants and the planet. Those bosses of big companies are beasts without a mind. Case closed.

    6) There is still gold and silver and iron and etc etc in the world. And I don't see animals walking with golden rings or other golden products. So we can take gold. We shouldn't but it doesn't cause anything. You say gold and silver and etc or in the ground we walk in for a reason. What reason??
    I agree with the cars and fumes. People are getting lazy but they still walk and sport. And I don't think 90% of the people takes the car to get something that is 1 block away (depends on how big the block is).

    This was my answer on your post. Now it's your turn to answer on my post. Let's have a debate :p
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    Great micky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatcheese
    Great micky!
    Did you read it?? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by micky.blue.eyes
    Ok Now it's my turn to answer this. (sorry people if I type too much)

    1)War, yes we people make war. And animals?? They also fight, yes to survive but they still kill each other. Why do we make war?? To survive. If the americans and british people didn't come and safe us in WO2 most of us wouldn't be here. Yes war is wrong but we can't stay in our sofa and watch television while there is a wat going on. We have to help the countries. And if war is the only sollution for the safety of the people who will survive I say do it.

    2)Uhm we are animals. Only our brains are better (some animals are smarter and some people are super dumb). I hate people killing animals for fun but why do you think the wwf or grean peace is here? To help the beasts kill the animals?? No the collect money so they can put a stop to killing animals.

    3)Pollution. Yes there is too much pollution but do you think scientists aren't doing anything about it? They are searching for ways to solve the problem and they already found a way. America, where like you said there are 2 times to cars, is about to sell cars on water thingy (don't know what it's called in english ) And besides vulcanos also cause pollution not as much as cars but still they cause pollution.

    4)Oil, yes I agree we want more and more oil but that's because we need more and more oil. But scientists are searching for alternative energy sourches. Like those cars on water thingy (don't need to explain just read point 3).

    5) I agree that companies only care about money. But the normal ordinary people donate to wwf and grean peace and unicef and etc etc so we can safe animals and plants and the planet. Those bosses of big companies are beasts without a mind. Case closed.

    6) There is still gold and silver and iron and etc etc in the world. And I don't see animals walking with golden rings or other golden products. So we can take gold. We shouldn't but it doesn't cause anything. You say gold and silver and etc or in the ground we walk in for a reason. What reason??
    I agree with the cars and fumes. People are getting lazy but they still walk and sport. And I don't think 90% of the people takes the car to get something that is 1 block away (depends on how big the block is).

    This was my answer on your post. Now it's your turn to answer on my post. Let's have a debate :p
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    Okay, you've made some interesting points, but heres what i think -

    1) Yes, animals kill to live, but so do humans, and i have no intention of stopping people from eating meat as humans are meat eaters, and if we all turned vegetarian, the world would run out of crops, and have too many animals, but, i just don't like the way they kill the animals. And correct me if i'm wrong, i didn't say 'we shouldn't go into war' i said 'there should be no war' as what does war achieve? It kills innocent people, i don't know why you are saying all this stuff about going into war to save people, war just kills more people, and bush didn't go into war to save iraq, he wanted the oil, and hitler didn't go into war to balance the population of jews, he wanted them dead. You see, war is a evil thing, and no matter how much you say its right, it isn't going to change the fact that it is evil.

    2)So, are we animals? Yes, we are animals, so, what your saying, is that we should be treated the same as animals, since we are animals? Oh right, so then i guess i should get on my horse and start human hunting, or maybe shoot down and keep every human i can get my hands on in cages? Don't be stupid, you know what kind of animals i am talking about. Also you were saying things about green peace and WWF giving money to help stop animal cruelty, WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER IF EVERYONE JUST STOPPED IT?

    3)Scientist's are too late now, they can't save the earth anymore, we have ruined it completely, unless they make some sort of discovery in the next year, then they are no use at all, the only thing we can do now is to stop using so much energy!

    4)No, we don't need anymore oil, we have got enough oil, and george bush has some of the most oil in the world, but STILL needs more? Greedyness, and stealing it from other countries is even worse!

    5)I didn't really understand what you were meaning by that. All LARGE buisnesses like Sony and things are so greedy, they just keep making more and more products, and selling them for more and more money, and companys like green peace and WWF collect money for certain reasons, so i don't know why you are saying that they are big companys who give money to charity and things, obviously they do as thats what there business is.

    6)If i knew the reason they were there, i would tell you, but they are obviously not there so that humans can once again, ruin the earth by digging it up and taking all of the things that contain inside it. And you would be pretty surprised at how many people take the car when there work is only a block away, and by the way, it is pretty rare for your walk to be just a block away!
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    w00t my turn again

    1) I never said hitler or bush are good. And I didn't say Hitler went in war to balance the population of jews. I said that we needed to save the jews from Hitler, and the only way to do that is fight against Hitler, because we already tried to talk with Hitler but he didn't listen. I agree with there should be no war but I can't control the minds of world leaders and if they go mad we will have to attack them
    And what were you talking about eating meat and stuff?? That's just the nature doing his thing. And I also don't like the way they kill animals So that's a good point of you but when a lion kills an antilope with his claws the antilope has lots of pain, when I spider eats a bug alive the bug has very much pain, when we kill animals for food they have pain but at least it happens fast. But I think scientist should try to change the DNA of cattle, pigs, etc so they don't feel anything anymore so we could use those animals for food. Also bad to kill animals but it's the battle of the thoughest in the nature.

    2)Uhm did you hear me say we should go kill each other?? NO, I said we should stop kill the animals. Get your facts right. And I said it would be easier if everybody stopped it, that's why WWF, greanpeace, and other charities are here, to safe the animals from the reall beasts (you probably know who I mean with reall beasts)

    3)That sounds weird: Scientists can't save the world anymore, UNLESS...
    You gave the answer yourself, unless they find a way, we are doomed. That's what I said already, scientists are trying to find a way to solve the pollution problem.

    4)We have enough oil?? We have enough oil?? In your first post you said we only have oil for 40 years and now you say we have enough?? Make up your mind. We don't have enough oil. We need new energy sourches. And Bush has the most oil but that's partly because the U.S.A have the highest population WITH cars and also because Bush is weird.

    5)I didn't say big businesses donate money, they don't (most of them), so the people will (nice people ). And it's a nature thing, greedyness, every animal (including human because we are animals to) want more and more, strong animals get to eat first, big animals get the most wives, strong animals get the best places, strong animals get more land, weird people get the most money. It's a nature instinct.

    6)I know there are lany people taking the car, but also alot of people taking the bus or train because it's cheaper and the goverment made it cheaper because it will produce less pollution. And not everybody needs something which is just a block away but people living in cities do. The cities are full of shops and I don't think lots of people like to spend their time drivinf to a shop 5km in the city while they can get something in a smallers shop around the corner.

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    1) I was talking about Hitlers and Bush's minds, if only they could get it into themselves that war is wrong, but no, some of the thick americans voted him back in! Yes, animals go through pain when other animals kill them, but animals kill them out in the wild then eat them, and they don't leave any meat, they eat it all, but humans only eat a certain part of the animal. also, i was meaning the conditions they are in, if we just went out and shot the animals that would be okay as it would be a sudden death and also we need to eat, but when people lock them up in cages or chain them ect ect(there is an endless list of the horrible things people do to the poor animals). And humans are so horrible, they go out and kill animals for entertainment, or torture them for entertainment.

    2)No actually, you didnt say you should stop killing animals, you said nothing of the sort, you said 'why do you think green peace and WWF are here?' well i'll tell you something, they wouldn't have to be here if everyone just stopped being so selfish and disgusting, and i feel ashamed to be part of the human race!

    3)I said UNLESS they find a discovery within the next year, which will be a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance out of 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000. There is already ice caps melting in parts of jamaica, we are too late!

    4)In my first post, i said 'the EARTH will run out of oil in 40 years' this is meaning, no matter how much oil we get now, it will all run out because humans are so greedy, that we have used up more oil than we need. I wasn't talking about britian itself, or america itself, ALL of the earth is supposed to run out of oil in the next 40 years.

    5)It is not natural for humans to be selfish, if we were back in the stone age (which soon we will be) there would be no technology, there for, we wouldn't really have anything to want more of. Technology has ruined us all, we have all turned into greedy people (and im not going to act innocent as i do it aswell) but the human race is a mess now, and i want to try and work on limiting myself to the ammount of things i get and do a day!

    6)Have you seen the fumes that come off of buses? Making it cheaper is worse as people will just be lazy and think 'oh i will just get the bus' instead of walking or cycling there. Back to the whole 'people wanting more' thing, people want good quality food sometimes, so they would rather go that extra few miles to get the good food, rather than going to the local shops, be honest, does your mum do her weekly/daily/every other day shopping at the corner shop?
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    Its a huge misconsption that WE are damgeing the world. We are NOT. The world is fine, its chnage far far more drastily than this before, and will again. All where doing is makinging it uninhabiltbale for ourselfs. Single volcnos have put more poultion in to our atmopphear than there have been in the whole of human history, the world isnt damages, ice age insues, it always retunis to its balcence, all we are doing is probly wipeing US out, not destroyiong or dam,ageing the world.

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    I aggree to al of that said! For one thing we have caused harm to this earth with will be near to come if we dont stop now. Global warming. We have been over-using the earths reasources releasing toxic gases causing acid rain plus keeping the heat inside our earth constantly becoming heated. We have only our selfs to blam.

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