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Microsoft don't produce machines, just the OS...

Anywho, by gaming I meant Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Crysis, Far Cry 2 etc etc

[HotelUser]

Microsoft don't produce machines, just the OS...

Anywho, by gaming I meant Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Crysis, Far Cry 2 etc etc

I know some of those games you can run natively using Darwine or CrossOver. And if that fails VMware, Parallels or VirtualBox does the trick.

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Looks like Microsoft have been effected by the credit crisis

[GommeInc]

It would appear Windows is the better OS then... If OSX was the better OS, it wouldn't have to have VMWare and programs of that sort piggy-backing it to play games. IF these programs didn't exist, Windows would be the better OS by default, because it does more. OSX would be the more useless OS, because it does alot less than it's Window counterpart. Speaking about just the OS, Windows Vista/XP are the superior ones, with the only limitations being on what system they're installed on.

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I know some of those games you can run natively using Darwine or CrossOver. And if that fails VMware, Parallels or VirtualBox does the trick.

Let me see you play Crysis on maximum settings, or even medium, through VirtualBox, VMWare, Paralells etc etc.

I have to say Gomme's arguments are extremely good, with OS X you are limited to the hardware Apple want you to use, thus limiting the OS' potential. Windows XP/Vista/7 is only limited by the hardware the user decides to install it on, be it a Macintosh or a homebuilt computer, but unfortunatly some people decide to turn it on its head and say that the Windows OS performs badly.

[HotelUser]

Looks like Microsoft have been effected by the credit crisis

*Vista crisis

It would appear Windows is the better OS then... If OSX was the better OS, it wouldn't have to have VMWare and programs of that sort piggy-backing it to play games.

I think you need a reality check here. First off, there are a lot of games that DO work with OSX, without emulation. Second off, the fact that you can install Windows legitimately from OSX and you cannot install OSX legitimately from Windows is a feature of OSX, and a lack of a feature on Windows. Thirdly, not everyone games. I would certainly toss away the less games for less viruses.

IF these programs didn't exist, Windows would be the better OS by default, because it does more.

There is a very large library of applications for OSX. Many of these applications are better than their Windows counterparts.

OSX would be the more useless OS, because it does alot less than it's Window counterpart. Speaking about just the OS, Windows Vista/XP are the superior ones, with the only limitations being on what system they're installed on.

There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin. I was a Windows user for years and years (since I was 3). I loved it upto Vista. Vista in my opinion (and ***** will disagree) is total and utter crap, that I would not touch with a ten foot pole. I knew if I switched back to XP I would be soon incompatible, but I didn't want to use a bloated OS. That's why I bought this iMac. I have a problem with what you're saying, because basically you own a Windows machine, and you want what you have to be superior to what other people are using, even if that means you must defame something you've never used, or evaluated legitimately.


Saying Windows is superior due to gaming compatibility alone is stupidity. I could say OSX gets many less viruses, requires less horsepower and also that OSX is more secure. But according to you that's all irrelevant because gaming is the only thing that matters?

Let me see you play Crysis on maximum settings, or even medium, through VirtualBox, VMWare, Paralells etc etc.

Been there and done that while gaming before.

I have to say Gomme's arguments are extremely good, with OS X you are limited to the hardware Apple want you to use, thus limiting the OS' potential.
Windows XP/Vista/7 is only limited by the hardware the user decides to install it on, be it a Macintosh or a homebuilt computer, but unfortunatly some people decide to turn it on its head and say that the Windows OS performs badly.

And when they error out because of crappy drivers, where the OSX user never has to worry about drivers who looks better then? Since I got OSX I have never been harassed about anything related to hardware, or I have never had any hardware related problems. It's been a dream.


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*Vista crisis

I think you need a reality check here. First off, there are a lot of games that DO work with OSX, without emulation. Second off, the fact that you can install Windows legitimately from OSX and you cannot install OSX legitimately from Windows is a feature of OSX, and a lack of a feature on Windows. Thirdly, not everyone games. I would certainly toss away the less games for less viruses.There is a very large library of applications for OSX. Many of these applications are better than their Windows counterparts.
There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin. I was a Windows user for years and years (since I was 3). I loved it upto Vista. Vista in my opinion (and ***** will disagree) is total and utter crap, that I would not touch with a ten foot pole. I knew if I switched back to XP I would be soon incompatible, but I didn't want to use a bloated OS. That's why I bought this iMac. I have a problem with what you're saying, because basically you own a Windows machine, and you want what you have to be superior to what other people are using, even if that means you must defame something you've never used, or evaluated legitimately.


Saying Windows is superior due to gaming compatibility alone is stupidity. I could say OSX gets many less viruses, requires less horsepower and also that OSX is more secure. But according to you that's all irrelevant because gaming is the only thing that matters?


Been there and done that while gaming before.
And when they error out because of crappy drivers, where the OSX user never has to worry about drivers who looks better then? Since I got OSX I have never been harassed about anything related to hardware, or I have never had any hardware related problems. It's been a dream.


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I wouldn't know where to begin in actually finding all of this information legit, though I like your argument.

I can't be biased and place my opinion on either one as I've come to learn through this thread, but throughout everything I've heard and read about Macs, they're of higher standard than a PC any day.

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*Vista crisis

I think you need a reality check here. First off, there are a lot of games that DO work with OSX, without emulation. Second off, the fact that you can install Windows legitimately from OSX and you cannot install OSX legitimately from Windows is a feature of OSX, and a lack of a feature on Windows. Thirdly, not everyone games. I would certainly toss away the less games for less viruses.There is a very large library of applications for OSX. Many of these applications are better than their Windows counterparts.
There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin. I was a Windows user for years and years (since I was 3). I loved it upto Vista. Vista in my opinion (and ***** will disagree) is total and utter crap, that I would not touch with a ten foot pole. I knew if I switched back to XP I would be soon incompatible, but I didn't want to use a bloated OS. That's why I bought this iMac. I have a problem with what you're saying, because basically you own a Windows machine, and you want what you have to be superior to what other people are using, even if that means you must defame something you've never used, or evaluated legitimately.


Saying Windows is superior due to gaming compatibility alone is stupidity. I could say OSX gets many less viruses, requires less horsepower and also that OSX is more secure. But according to you that's all irrelevant because gaming is the only thing that matters?


Been there and done that while gaming before.
And when they error out because of crappy drivers, where the OSX user never has to worry about drivers who looks better then? Since I got OSX I have never been harassed about anything related to hardware, or I have never had any hardware related problems. It's been a dream.


*polishes my signature*

Why do you continue to post in the Microsoft & Windows section if you're so certain Mac is the best, to the point of obsession, it seems?:S

The competition to see which OS is the best has went too far when they're directly ******** each other imo. Personally, I will never buy a Mac when I can get a PC that can do the same but cheaper.

[GommeInc]

I think you need a reality check here. First off, there are a lot of games that DO work with OSX, without emulation. Second off, the fact that you can install Windows legitimately from OSX and you cannot install OSX legitimately from Windows is a feature of OSX, and a lack of a feature on Windows. Thirdly, not everyone games. I would certainly toss away the less games for less viruses.There is a very large library of applications for OSX. Many of these applications are better than their Windows counterparts.

Firstly, that's like having the option of buying one of two jars of sweets in front of you. You can either buy the more expensive jar with less sweets or the cheaper jar with more sweets - the sweets are exactly the same type. I wonder what people will buy... Secondly, the fact you can install Windows on a Mac shows the inferiority of OSX. If you buy a system, you hope for it to be compatible with most things, not less things. It's not a lack of a feature at all, that's like buying a Ford car and changing the badge on it to a Vauxhall, a pointless waste of time and money. Thirdly, just install anti-virus software. Argument over, you get games PLUS virus free ! Also, applications available for both systems tend to be the better applications - look at Adobe CS4, for instance.

There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin. I was a Windows user for years and years (since I was 3). I loved it upto Vista. Vista in my opinion (and ***** will disagree) is total and utter crap, that I would not touch with a ten foot pole. I knew if I switched back to XP I would be soon incompatible, but I didn't want to use a bloated OS. That's why I bought this iMac. I have a problem with what you're saying, because basically you own a Windows machine, and you want what you have to be superior to what other people are using, even if that means you must defame something you've never used, or evaluated legitimately.

We are all fully aware of your psychotic hate for a system. Have you not heard the phrase that revolves around not everyone has to be a cook to know that food tastes crap? Because that comes into play now. I've poked around a Mac, it's ok, but so not worth the money. I'd rather buy a Windows machine than by a Mac and install Windows on it, mainly because if I wasted £1,000 on something, I'd want it to be useable immediately. Also, I love how you're playing the losing game by coming out with information that doesn't appear to be present anywhere. I never said Windows should be superior because I own it. No, of course not. It's just obvious it is because, taking a neutral position and saying both are equal is incredibly irrational. What a Mac does, a million other things can be done on a PC. Most Mac users even use Windows on their Macs to run things that the OS can't. Now why would that be? It can't because the OS is superior... How can a superior OS piggy back another OS and be called superior? That's like David Beckham being called superior while the other footballers are doing his handy work. Or a maid being called an excellent maid when she only does half her jobs because she's called in reinforcements...

Saying Windows is superior due to gaming compatibility alone is stupidity. I could say OSX gets many less viruses, requires less horsepower and also that OSX is more secure. But according to you that's all irrelevant because gaming is the only thing that matters?

Again, you revolve around an argument which apparently I revolve around. Gaming is the breaking point it seems. There's nothing else that a Mac can rival against, other than this "no viruses" crap. Windows machines don't get malicious viruses that easily, unless the owner is a complete prat :rolleyes: If a PC gets a virus, blame the organ grinder, not the monkey. They're so easily to avoid. Look at bad drivers... If you see someone in the middle of the road, then you can avoid them and it's easy to avoid. If you hit them, who's to blame? The driver, not the machine

I think you need a reality check here. First off, there are a lot of games that DO work with OSX, without emulation. Second off, the fact that you can install Windows legitimately from OSX and you cannot install OSX legitimately from Windows is a feature of OSX, and a lack of a feature on Windows. Thirdly, not everyone games. I would certainly toss away the less games for less viruses.There is a very large library of applications for OSX. Many of these applications are better than their Windows counterparts.

Firstly, that's like having the option of buying one of two jars of sweets in front of you. You can either buy the more expensive jar with less sweets or the cheaper jar with more sweets - the sweets are exactly the same type. I wonder what people will buy... Secondly, the fact you can install Windows on a Mac shows the inferiority of OSX. If you buy a system, you hope for it to be compatible with most things, not less things. It's not a lack of a feature at all, that's like buying a Ford car and changing the badge on it to a Vauxhall, a pointless waste of time and money. Thirdly, just install anti-virus software. Argument over, you get games PLUS virus free ! Also, applications available for both systems tend to be the better applications - look at Adobe CS4, for instance.

There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin. I was a Windows user for years and years (since I was 3). I loved it upto Vista. Vista in my opinion (and ***** will disagree) is total and utter crap, that I would not touch with a ten foot pole. I knew if I switched back to XP I would be soon incompatible, but I didn't want to use a bloated OS. That's why I bought this iMac. I have a problem with what you're saying, because basically you own a Windows machine, and you want what you have to be superior to what other people are using, even if that means you must defame something you've never used, or evaluated legitimately.

We are all fully aware of your psychotic hate for a system. Have you not heard the phrase that revolves around not everyone has to be a cook to know that food tastes crap? Because that comes into play now. I've poked around a Mac, it's ok, but so not worth the money. I'd rather buy a Windows machine than by a Mac and install Windows on it, mainly because if I wasted £1,000 on something, I'd want it to be useable immediately. Also, I love how you're playing the losing game by coming out with information that doesn't appear to be present anywhere. I never said Windows should be superior because I own it. No, of course not. It's just obvious it is because, taking a neutral position and saying both are equal is incredibly irrational. What a Mac does, a million other things can be done on a PC. Most Mac users even use Windows on their Macs to run things that the OS can't. Now why would that be? It can't because the OS is superior... How can a superior OS piggy back another OS and be called superior? That's like David Beckham being called superior while the other footballers are doing his handy work. Or a maid being called an excellent maid when she only does half her jobs because she's called in reinforcements...

Saying Windows is superior due to gaming compatibility alone is stupidity. I could say OSX gets many less viruses, requires less horsepower and also that OSX is more secure. But according to you that's all irrelevant because gaming is the only thing that matters?

Again, you revolve around an argument which apparently I revolve around. Gaming is the breaking point it seems. There's nothing else that a Mac can rival against, other than this "no viruses" crap. Windows machines don't get malicious viruses that easily, unless the owner is a complete prat :rolleyes: If a PC gets a virus, blame the organ grinder, not the monkey. They're so easily to avoid. Look at bad drivers... If you see someone in the middle of the road, then you can avoid them and it's easy to avoid. If you hit them, who's to blame? The driver, not the machine

Sheesh, you'd think someone who's tried both machines would be smart enough to acknowledge both sides and the arguments. Viruses are so easy to avoid, and the Mac vs. Windows arguments that revolve around viruses died years ago, when Mac users clearly were offending themselves by calling themselves virus getting numpties who open anything with their small, primative minds...

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Funny that Safari on Mac OS X was the first to be comprimised at the Pwn2Own competition now that you mention viruses etc.