Report Infraction Problems Thread ~ Should it be private?

[Hecktix]

Just realised a bit of a flaw in this poll, most people that have voted (with the exception of one) aren't likely to be appealing infractions anytime soon, so these votes don't really count, hmm I think a better method of measurement may be a different idea - I'll think.

I'm not fussed either way - it's more work for me to have a subforum but I see the benefits of having it private.

[flatface]

I don't see an actual problem with the current way of dealing with infraction problems, hence why I voted to keep it as it is. Although having a sub-forum for it and keeping the threads private from other users wouldn't be an issue either, I can see why people would want that. But the thread has been doing it's job for a some time now and hasn't really been a big "problem" for it to be changed.

If the majority want it to stay the same, then thats fine and I respect that . However I do think the thread will need updating, it should reflect the current general manager (which is you) and not a general manager of the past (currently ---MAD---). I also think the thread should be cleared out more regularly then it is now. There should also be an alternative for appealing infractions specifically aimed at the members who wish to keep their appeal private - the instructions for doing this should be stated on the starting post of the thread.

[Hecktix]

If the majority want it to stay the same, then thats fine and I respect that . However I do think the thread will need updating, it should reflect the current general manager (which is you) and not a general manager of the past (currently ---MAD---). I also think the thread should be cleared out more regularly then it is now. There should also be an alternative for appeal infractions specifically aimed at the members who wish to keep their appeal private - the instructions for doing this should be stated on the starting post of the thread.

I know we considered making a new thread when myself and Garion became Forum Management, the current thread was made by ---MAD--- when he was Forum Manager which is an age away - it does need clearing out and I'll do that now, that's a benefit of a forum though, it wouldn't need clearing out.

I think Garion didn't change it because it's linked to in millions of places around the forum, however I see no issue with making a new thread which is something if this poll stays the way it is I will look into over the next few days.

[Inseriousity.]

Just realised a bit of a flaw in this poll, most people that have voted (with the exception of one) aren't likely to be appealing infractions anytime soon, so these votes don't really count, hmm I think a better method of measurement may be a different idea - I'll think.

I'm not fussed either way - it's more work for me to have a subforum but I see the benefits of having it private.

That Matt is a complete rule breaker, I'd keep an eye on him ;P

Anyway yeah, when the whole forum's been spruced up to remove subforums and whatnot, I don't think adding a new one when a thread has been going fine for years is a good idea, so I'd prefer it if my vote did count regardless of how many infractions I actually have or have not got.

[flatface]

I know we considered making a new thread when myself and Garion became Forum Management, the current thread was made by ---MAD--- when he was Forum Manager which is an age away - it does need clearing out and I'll do that now, that's a benefit of a forum though, it wouldn't need clearing out.

I think Garion didn't change it because it's linked to in millions of places around the forum, however I see no issue with making a new thread which is something if this poll stays the way it is I will look into over the next few days.

Oh I see, well you could aways merge yourself as the thread started and then the links wouldn't need changing .

[Hecktix]

That Matt is a complete rule breaker, I'd keep an eye on him ;P

Anyway yeah, when the whole forum's been spruced up to remove subforums and whatnot, I don't think adding a new one when a thread has been going fine for years is a good idea, so I'd prefer it if my vote did count regardless of how many infractions I actually have or have not got.

Well, a thread hasn't been going fine for years in my opinion and a lot of users send infraction appeals via PM to me - which I do not mind however at the times where I have diverted members to the thread they haven't actually posted their appeal - I'd be interested to know why members opt to choose this.

It wouldn't be a forum, it would be a sub forum hidden from view, it would probably be part of the moderation section of the complaints forum which would only be ventured to if a user wished to persue something like this, so the recent forum clean up isn't really relevant here as the clean up was about forums clogging up the index.

[Inseriousity.]

Well, a thread hasn't been going fine for years in my opinion and a lot of users send infraction appeals via PM to me - which I do not mind however at the times where I have diverted members to the thread they haven't actually posted their appeal - I'd be interested to know why members opt to choose this.

It wouldn't be a forum, it would be a sub forum hidden from view, it would probably be part of the moderation section of the complaints forum which would only be ventured to if a user wished to persue something like this, so the recent forum clean up isn't really relevant here as the clean up was about forums clogging up the index.

Isn't the point of contact when members are told they've recieved an infraction via PM which means it is only natural that they would reply back via PM? I imagine if you had a subforum, the same would still occur and you'll be directing people to the subforum instead. If they choose not to use the thread then that is their choice but that doesn't mean they won't use the forum either.

I never said it was a forum, I know he said subforum and the forum clean up involved cleaning up some subforums as well, such as the mess that was the Ask a Habbox Staff subforums and it also included reducing the amount of stickied threads in forums - I was instructed to do this -, so it obviously stretched further than just removing forums. My vote should still count.

[Hecktix]

Isn't the point of contact when members are told they've recieved an infraction via PM which means it is only natural that they would reply back via PM? I imagine if you had a subforum, the same would still occur and you'll be directing people to the subforum instead. If they choose not to use the thread then that is their choice but that doesn't mean they won't use the forum either.

I never said it was a forum, I know he said subforum and the forum clean up involved cleaning up some subforums as well, such as the mess that was the Ask a Habbox Staff subforums and it also included reducing the amount of stickied threads in forums - I was instructed to do this -, so it obviously stretched further than just removing forums. My vote should still count.

You raise valid points regarding the PM part, however usually users send their appeal to me directly rather than the Super Moderator - so they know they have to do something

In reference to being requested to clear up stickied threads - stickied threads are a major problem here at HabboxForum as a lot of them are stuck and forgotten about, although this point doesn't really refer to your argument as stickied threads are a nuisance, a hidden subforum in a place where only these users would go wouldn't be.

[Grig]

It's their private affair and I don't think anyone should be embarrassed in public if they don't want to. Using a sub-forum could make it more of a freer debate and any appeals can be discussed further even after the initial decision, so I feel it's a much better way just in short, which is why I recommended this idea in the first place.

However, I'm not too concerned either way as I was just suggesting .

[Richie]

Private 'cause the vast majority of them think they are 'cool' when appealing publicly because everyone can see lol


Also why would the public need to see it?