Fired for being hacked

[Shar]

I think they shouldnt be fired I recon its like abit harsh tbh if there really dedicated nd stuff why would they want to click a link
why would they want to get fired
how is it there fault
what if this happend to like someone in a high role of habbox...
They obviously wouldnt have been like
OMG OMG HACK ME PLS I WANNA GET FIRED
would they
I don't think its fair tbh, its there like senior dj lets say just demote them to normal tbh? :S Lee as an example was EXTREMELY dedicated to his department
so was jord when he got hacked as assist hxhd manager..
hardly there fault
Just saw alkaz

I still disagree with Jordan's dismissal as there was hardly any damage apart from trashing of hxhd which I think is ridiculous as his rights could have just been removed for a month! We can't really compare that with Lee's dismissal, be was dismissed because his forum account was compromised and a lot of damage could have been done which would have caused harm to users, especially if David wasn't online at the time.

I get your point mathew but when the forum account is concerned I don't think its safe by allowing the staff member to keep their position and its more than fair.

[Jordan]

When I got hacked I questioned this about it wasn't my fault. But somewhere (I'm not sure where) it says if you're hacked and you cause damage to Habbox you get dismissed. If not it's totally alright. In my case my account (Jordesh) was used to trash the helpdesk. They remade it and the hacker came on Jordos50 and trashed again.. I believe it is fair to get fired because you've caused trouble..

[Alex3213]

I'll post properly later because I'm too tired however I'm undecided on this but I'm certainly leaning towards it being fair for various reasons.

What does the staff handbook state will happen if your account is compromised and damages Habbox in anyway?

The last time I remember it was something on the lines of (cos obviously I can't check now):

"You will be dismissed as Habbox Staff if your account is compromised if one or more of these circumstances occurs:

- Your HabboxForum account has been hacked.
- You have lost any of Habbox's furniture resources
- You have damaged one of Habbox's sites or official rooms."

The first one is self-explanatory, if your HxF account has been compromised you will be revealing private information, even more so if you're a manager, administrator, super mod, mod etc as this can cause problems for the forum.
The second mainly is directed at managers I think as there's only a few members other than GM who have Habbox's donations.
The third is if you've damaged one of Habbox's sites (such as whatever happened yesterday or the hacker has gone a forum rampage and moved thousands of threads into different places for example) or trashing rooms I believe.

Not sure if that's entirely correct, can't remember.

@Mathew: I am more than certain that Hecktix created a thread in the Habbox Staff only certifying that the rules have been in place for a long time and then listed them to ensure all staff understood.

[MissAlice]

Well this is interesting. The whole firing business appears to have come out of nowhere.. I do think it was just a rule someone made up on the spot after someone was hacked and it just stuck without any official recognition or announcement.

So basically there is no rule? Just what actions staff should take if they believe their account is in danger.

Whilst I sympathize with anyone losing control of their account, I do think Management need to clearly state their intentions of firing if the situation should arise. Perhaps then staff would take greater care of their accounts.

Sorry Alex you must of posted same time as me.

[Mathew]

In my case my account (Jordesh) was used to trash the helpdesk. They remade it and the hacker came on Jordos50 and trashed again.. I believe it is fair to get fired because you've caused trouble..

There's the problem. You didn't cause trouble, the hacker did.

@MG - Perhaps I've just never been aware of it previously then, but I was always under the impression that it was either ignored or went by unnoticed before around the time of Jordesh!

[Mr-Trainor]

So it's not the users fault if they click a malicious link?
It's not the users fault if they go on a dodgy site?
It's not the users fault ifnthey have a poor password?

Who's fault is it then.. :rolleyes:

You could say that Habbo is at fault in regards to recent events of hacking/compromising.

[triston220]

Choosing secure passwords, running regular virus scans and being careful with what you download can reduce the chance of an account being compromised, however with FUD fully undetectable viruses and java drivebys, preventing compromises can be hard.

[Mathew]

Well that just got me thinking. I do wonder if Ouft was aware of the consequences considering I can't find a thread on it..

[Jordan]

There's the problem. You didn't cause trouble, the hacker did.

@MG - Perhaps I've just never been aware of it previously then, but I was always under the impression that it was either ignored or went by unnoticed before around the time of Jordesh!

Okay you do have a point, maybe some sort of suspension of maybe a week or a month depending on what was actually done would be better than a dismissal?

[xxMATTGxx]

There's the problem. You didn't cause trouble, the hacker did.

@MG - Perhaps I've just never been aware of it previously then, but I was always under the impression that it was either ignored or went by unnoticed before around the time of Jordesh!

Oh hell no, Jordesh wasn't the first one to be fired for that reason. I can remember a number of times before that where staff have been fired because their accounts had been hacked and then caused damage. I will update the main staff handbook thread, as it doesn't seem to be listed and will prevent confusion in the future but this has been a rule for some time now.