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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    First of all ever hear of wills?

    The main difference between your inheritance argument and relating it to royals, is no matter what my parents might choose to eventually give me some day, i don't expect to be treated differently because of who i am a son of.

    I'm not going to partake in a long debate on this (again), because whenever i open my mouth about anything to do with the UK monarchy i get lots of people moaning that i can't have an opinion on this because i'm not from the UK. So i'm just going to finish making my point and i'll leave this thread.

    But while you're mentioning Ron Paul ( a man you avidly support). After reading books, articles and speeches by him, it would seem that he would never be in favour of any form of monarchy (constitutional or otherwise). Actualy i asked a friend about this last year (who first introduced me to Ron Paul years back). He didn't seem to know much about Ron Paul's views with regards to the UK's version of monarchy (he did show me videos of Ron Paul criticising Monarchies in general, not what i was looking for though) . But he told me that he thinks the reason Ron Paul doesn't seem to speak of this is purely for possible future diplomatic relations with the UK (He was and is a presidential hopeful of course).
    Bear in mind that the UK monarchy is purely a figurehead and actually has no real power at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247
    But while you're mentioning Ron Paul ( a man you avidly support). After reading books, articles and speeches by him, it would seem that he would never be in favour of any form of monarchy (constitutional or otherwise). Actualy i asked a friend about this last year (who first introduced me to Ron Paul years back). He didn't seem to know much about Ron Paul's views with regards to the UK's version of monarchy (he did show me videos of Ron Paul criticising Monarchies in general, not what i was looking for though) . But he told me that he thinks the reason Ron Paul doesn't seem to speak of this is purely for possible future diplomatic relations with the UK (He was and is a presidential hopeful of course).
    Ron Paul supports the Constitutional Republic which is what the United States is intended to be, as do I - for the United States it works. The United Kingdom on the other hand is simply the same, but a Constitutional Monarchy which I find better than a Republic simply because I like the tradition and I find it much more reliable and a respectful office for Head of State as opposed to an unpopular politician. The two systems are the best systems of government ever devised, although I strongly favour the Westminister model.

    If Ron Paul was elected President, he would operate in a way similar to Queen Elizabeth II - as a constitutional figurehead as the constitution intended, however slightly more political.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247
    Anyway, the users of this forum decided i long time ago that i am not allowed to discuss the UK monarchy. Apparently it's a topic only for citizens of the UK.
    By all means we'd like to hear how abolishing a tried and tested system which has evolved over the centuries to give us the best parliamentary system is desirable, which I presume is your position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Bear in mind that the UK monarchy is purely a figurehead and actually has no real power at all.
    I wouldn't say that the monarch has no real power but a lot of it has decreased over time and has gone to the prime minister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar View Post
    I wouldn't say that the monarch has no real power but a lot of it has decreased over time and has gone to the prime minister.
    She really does have no political powers, she only has influence.

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    The Sovereign has supreme powers but does not exercise them, she is bound by the constitution.


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