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    With It being the Queens Diamond Jubilee this year.


    What are your thoughts on the historical British Monarchy?




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    I dislike the entire concept of hereditary monarchy. There are pros and cons that come with it though as it does have mass support and the monarchy also brings a lot of tourists to London so it is also a money maker BUT I hate how some events are funded with tax payer money such as the royal wedding etc.

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    I don't really have an opinion but for some reason i find anything to do with the Monarchy really fascinating!

    I do think the Queen is doing well and will no doubt beat Victoria's record *touches wood*

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    Yeah I'm a big Royalist and think the Royal Family are what defines Britain. I think the main problem is that we're paying for the security of about 40 members of the royal family, when it only really needs to be the main ones. Prince Edward came to my school last January and the amount of planning and security around the area was absolutely crazy. We had sniffer dogs coming in a couple of weeks before, then people over the weekend... lockers had to emptied.. etc. Obviously he's one of the main members but any further down the line I wouldn't say it's needed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar View Post
    I dislike the entire concept of hereditary monarchy. There are pros and cons that come with it though as it does have mass support and the monarchy also brings a lot of tourists to London so it is also a money maker BUT I hate how some events are funded with tax payer money such as the royal wedding etc.
    Ah right, do you also hate the concept of inheritance then? when a mother or father dies, all property/titles go to the child (including yourself)? I always hear this stance against a hereditary system yet I never hear people apply that standard in their own lives or rally against it in other walks of life, such as when the children of 'celebrities' become 'celebrities' themselves who are then worshiped in the same sad way that most celebrities are who after all only read out scripts for a living. Or indeed, it happens in politics aswell - look at David and Edward Miliband, or Tony and Hiliary Benn, George H Bush and George W Bush, William Clinton and Hiliary Clinton or Ron Paul and Rand Paul and many more numerous examples so even if you did abolish the Monarchy and replace it with a Republic you'd still have political families/relations within it. Its peculiar that this argument is only used when arguing against the Monarchy, besides its a non-argument - it happens in all walks of life and it always will.

    Myself, I am a Royalist - its plain simple fact that the most stable nations have a Royal Family as opposed to a Republic.
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    The monarchy is fine, and provides an invaluable source of funds for the British economy.
    Heck we're known internationally for the monarch's tiny power yet extraordinary presence.
    The Queen can do next to nothing when it comes to running the country, yet she is still the icon.

    And inheriting the throne is all well, but when it gets to the stage we've had the same family for 3 centuries it could get unfair.


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    I think people often disregard (or may simply be unaware of) the amount of good that many royals do aside from bring in tourism - the most prominent to my mind being the Prince's Trust which is frankly the best youth support programme I've ever seen come into existence. Even indirectly as figureheads of charities and such they have tremendous influence and unless you're a staunch communist I don't think you can realistically scoff at them too much
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    I think people often disregard (or may simply be unaware of) the amount of good that many royals do aside from bring in tourism - the most prominent to my mind being the Prince's Trust which is frankly the best youth support programme I've ever seen come into existence. Even indirectly as figureheads of charities and such they have tremendous influence and unless you're a staunch communist I don't think you can realistically scoff at them too much
    Agreed about the Princes Trust which is why I'm not much a fan of the 'prince charles should abdicate and let his younger son take the throne' argument(with other reasons). They do a lot of good for this country and I'm amazed at how many official visits and trips they do. If I'm as active as they are when I'm their age, I'll be a very happy guy! My nana can hardly walk around the house without agonizing painand she's 3 years younger than the Queen!

    Despite that, there are still a few things that make me uneasy. Prince Andrew (? I think this is his name lol) as a trade envoy being described as arrogant and patronizing by people we're supposed to be doing business withand while he's no longerofficially in the role, I wonder howmuch the 'down to earth' PRof the royal family we get is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLemurs View Post
    Heck we're known internationally for the monarch's tiny power yet extraordinary presence.
    The Queen can do next to nothing when it comes to running the country, yet she is still the icon.
    Tiny power? Far from! She has the power to dissolve the government and form a new one whenever she pleases. Obviously she chooses not to abuse it, but it still remains!

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