Father 'who beat man to death for molesting his daughter, 4' unlikely to be charged

[scottish]

Personally I think that the father should be charged. There was no need to kill the man, and this is in my mind a typical story where someone has took revenge on someone else. If you murdered someone that graffiti'd on your front door, you would still be charged and this isn't very different. In a nutshell, he should be charged as he committed a crime.

erm

raping a young girl vs graffiti

totally the same.

are you stupid? (not being rude, I'm actually interested)

[the.games]

erm

raping a young girl vs graffiti

totally the same.

are you stupid? (not being rude, I'm actually interested)

What I mean by that is they are both a crime and that you woulden't accept murder for one, so why the other?

[Munex]

What I mean by that is they are both a crime and that you woulden't accept murder for one, so why the other?

For the same reason you wouldn't sentence a man to life-imprisonment for stealing a pick 'n' mix sweet - different crimes carry different consequences.

[the.games]

Yes, but as murder is illegal I don't think it is fair to use the legal system as his defence.

[Munex]

Yes, but as murder is illegal I don't think it is fair to use the legal system as his defence.

I understand what you're saying, but in this circumstance it is similar to self-defense. The little girl can't defend herself, so her father is doing it for her. And quite frankly, I don't give a damn if a violent paedophile is killed by accident.

[GommeInc]

Yes, but as murder is illegal I don't think it is fair to use the legal system as his defence.

There has to be certain criteria to convict someone of murder. The actual action and the guilty thoughts that go into it. He did not intend to murder the man, which hints that the action was accidental given his mind was seemingly innocent. For further reading I suggest you look up actus reus and mens rea - you may be interested, it's useful to know when reading into cases

EDIT: And all the evidence in between, of course.

[Richie]

Although the man molested his daughter I think it's wrong for the father to take justice into his own hands. If he physically had to remove him from his daughter by using force or an object and accidentally killed him in the process it should be taken into consideration but he should still be trialled and punished for taking another's life unless his daughters life was at risk (which the report doesn't state).


I was raised to believe two wrongs don't make a right.

[GommeInc]

Although the man molested his daughter I think it's wrong for the father to take justice into his own hands. If he physically had to remove him from his daughter by using force or an object and accidentally killed him in the process it should be taken into consideration but he should still be trialled and punished for taking another's life unless his daughters life was at risk (which the report doesn't state).

I was raised to believe two wrongs don't make a right.

Maybe he didn't realise it was a wrong until too late? Any rational, normal person would drag a child molester off a child to stop him. I wouldn't go "OMG, call 999 and watch in horror!" He did the right thing, but it ended wrong and he expresses guilt for doing it, because he did not intend for the man to die as a result of his actions. I'd be pee'd off if a child I knew, especially one that I raised being attacked, was being molested. It was understandable he was angry.

[Richie]

Maybe he didn't realise it was a wrong until too late? Any rational, normal person would drag a child molester off a child to stop him. I wouldn't go "OMG, call 999 and watch in horror!" He did the right thing, but it ended wrong and he expresses guilt for doing it, because he did not intend for the man to die as a result of his actions. I'd be pee'd off if a child I knew, especially one that I raised being attacked, was being molested. It was understandable he was angry.

Yes I agree but it doesn't mean it was right. Either way, sorry or not, he committed a crime.

I sound like I'm defending the child molester , I'm not. If a rape victim killed their attacker later on in life they'd be prosecuted but if they lied and say it was necessary to kill the rapist to get free well then I don't see courts sending the girl to prison. The father of the victim seems like a nice man, admitting he was wrong even though he could of lied about it. Even though he admitted it, he admitted to a crime.

[scottish]

Yes I agree but it doesn't mean it was right. Either way, sorry or not, he committed a crime.

I sound like I'm defending the child molester , I'm not. If a rape victim killed their attacker later on in life they'd be prosecuted but if they lied and say it was necessary to kill the rapist to get free well then I don't see courts sending the girl to prison. The father of the victim seems like a nice man, admitting he was wrong even though he could of lied about it. Even though he admitted it, he admitted to a crime.

A rape victim killing someone in 20 years because of a crime that was committed against her would be arrested.

A father accidentally killing someone to protect his 4 year old from an active crime shouldn't be arrested