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    Default Father 'who beat man to death for molesting his daughter, 4' unlikely to be charged

    seen this on another forum

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    A father who beat a man to death after catching him molesting his four-year-old daughter in a barn will likely not face charges.
    The man - whose name has not been released to protect his daughter - allegedly pulled the attacker off his child after discovering them in a barn in Lavaca County, Texas and then beat the man over the head.
    Authorities said he expressed regret at the killing, and no evidence so far has led them to doubt his story. The girl's grandfather agreed it had been an accident.


    'My son. Sorry,' the grandfather told the Victoria Advocate in broken English. 'It was an accident.'
    Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon added: 'He was very remorseful. I don't think it was his intent for the man to die.'

    Sheriff Harmon said the victim, a 47-year-old Gonzales man, had died at the scene. His name will not been released until his next-of-kin are notified.
    The sheriff said authorities are having trouble tracking down the family and believe they could be from out of the country.
    The father and daughter were said to be at the barn with a number of other people tending to horses.
    The 47-year-old arrived with several others. It is not known if the father or daughter knew him.
    The girl was then heard screaming a short time later and when her father went to see what was wrong, he saw the man sexually assaulting her.
    When he pulled him off her, he allegedly hit him several times over the head.
    No arrests have been made in the case. A grand jury will determine what, if any charges will be filed, Harmon said.

    he girl was taken to DeTar hospital in Victoria to be evaluated and to determine if a sexual assault occurred. She was later released.
    The Travis County Medical Examiner’s Office is expected to perform an autopsy on the victim to determine what caused his death.

    Residents of the small Lavaca County town were largely in support of the father, saying the victim deserved it.
    Sonny Jaehne, a Shiner native, told the Victoria Advocate: 'He got what he deserved, big time.
    Friend Mark Harabis reiterated this: 'I agree with him totally. I would probably do worse.
    'The family will have to deal with that the rest of their lives, no matter what happens to the father. Even if they let him go, he and his child will have to deal with that the rest of their lives.'
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    This is disgusting. While I don't think it's right to kill another human being (excpeting some circumstances), it's unlikely the courts would do that much to the molester so I suppose it's not as bad. If the girl had done it, it would bein self defense, so he was acting on her behalf...







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    The victim has no sympathy from me, and I am glad the justice system seems to be working like it I would like to see it

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    That is just sick molesting a 4 year old. I'm glad he got killed. Served him right!

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    i don't mind the individual case because the father expresses remorse that his physical attack proved fatal — everyone in the case seems to be on the page that he didn't intend to kill the criminal, including the father himself. what sickens me are the comments on this piece of news across the internet where people say he got what he deserved and he ought to have been killed or felt more pain or been tortured. that's not thinking logically. the death penalty is not logical and is just something to make our bleeding hearts feel better. an eye for an eye in most cases, if you will.

    for war, it's almost impossible to decode. i mean, we will never be rid of war. it doesn't matter howoften world peace crap is paraded around, violence is part of the human psyche. i don't feel awful about osama bin laden being killed because it was part of the flawed game that the whole thing is. if he turned himself in i would be outraged if they sentenced him to death in any nation just like i am with saddam hussein. it's a whole different topic, though.

    saddam hussein was terrible but he never deserved to be killed through the legal process. i don't care how many people he hurt, there is absolutely no logical reason to kill him other than to appease your conscience for humanity. the solution is to put the criminal in confinement, in most cases indefinitely. a human murdering another human through the legal system is never right in any case. self defense is hard to judge because it is not static but molesting the little girl would not have killed her. it's a bad crime but there is no logic in him dying for it. in short, i side with the father because he had no intention to kill but i do not side with the majority of the comments on this saying how he should die or how painful it should have been.

    here come the people that will say i am terrible for not sympathising with their innate desire to fix humanity with baseless methods and laws.

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    The right outcome - he acted to protect his daughter and felt remorse. I wonder what the US would of thought if he did intend to harm or kill him though, because in some cases they could of let him go free because the crime he was stopping could be considered extremely severe, seeing as it has psychological implications that could of stayed with her for the rest of her life.

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    If his daughter was older than 18 would he have gotten away with it still?

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    its happened before with the gary plauche case. the father assassinates his sons kidnapper and he got a minimal sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen! View Post
    If his daughter was older than 18 would he have gotten away with it still?
    Depends on the circumstances leading up to the death. If it was accidental and he shows great remorse then he would probably get away with it as it was an act of passion - or whatever the US call it. They may find it weird though that an 18 year old wasn't showing signs of protecting herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    i don't mind the individual case because the father expresses remorse that his physical attack proved fatal — everyone in the case seems to be on the page that he didn't intend to kill the criminal, including the father himself. what sickens me are the comments on this piece of news across the internet where people say he got what he deserved and he ought to have been killed or felt more pain or been tortured. that's not thinking logically. the death penalty is not logical and is just something to make our bleeding hearts feel better. an eye for an eye in most cases, if you will.

    for war, it's almost impossible to decode. i mean, we will never be rid of war. it doesn't matter howoften world peace crap is paraded around, violence is part of the human psyche. i don't feel awful about osama bin laden being killed because it was part of the flawed game that the whole thing is. if he turned himself in i would be outraged if they sentenced him to death in any nation just like i am with saddam hussein. it's a whole different topic, though.

    saddam hussein was terrible but he never deserved to be killed through the legal process. i don't care how many people he hurt, there is absolutely no logical reason to kill him other than to appease your conscience for humanity. the solution is to put the criminal in confinement, in most cases indefinitely. a human murdering another human through the legal system is never right in any case. self defense is hard to judge because it is not static but molesting the little girl would not have killed her. it's a bad crime but there is no logic in him dying for it. in short, i side with the father because he had no intention to kill but i do not side with the majority of the comments on this saying how he should die or how painful it should have been.

    here come the people that will say i am terrible for not sympathising with their innate desire to fix humanity with baseless methods and laws.
    Actually you are quite wrong. The purpose of all punishments is deterrence, retribution, reformation and to protect the public. Those who receive the death penalty are usually repeat offenders who can not be reformed. The death penalty serves the other three reasons and also has various other benefits for the government so I see no argument against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Depends on the circumstances leading up to the death. If it was accidental and he shows great remorse then he would probably get away with it as it was an act of passion - or whatever the US call it. They may find it weird though that an 18 year old wasn't showing signs of protecting herself.
    Isn't it down to the Jury to decide so therefore the outcome would vary? Unless there's a clause which would prevent them from going to trial.
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