Lee Rigby killers sentenced

[-:Undertaker:-]

Come back when you acknowledge the reoffending rates in a country such as Norway, compared to harsher systems in the US.

I don't advocate a system like the US. That's like when I suggest bringing back the death penalty, people like you will turn around and suggest to me that I want a US style system concerning the death penalty.... when America doesn't really have a proper system of capital punishment.

Come back when you know what my stance on the criminal justice system actually is.

[The Don]

I don't advocate a system like the US. That's like when I suggest bringing back the death penalty, people like you will turn around and suggest to me that I want a US style system concerning the death penalty.... when America doesn't really have a proper system of capital punishment.

Come back when you know what my stance on the criminal justice system actually is.

Which country would be a fairer comparison to look at reoffending rates, then? Because Norway seems to be doing a cracking job at the moment.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Which country would be a fairer comparison to look at reoffending rates, then? Because Norway seems to be doing a cracking job at the moment.

This country's Police service and criminal justice system had a good reputation prior to the reforms that took place in the 1960s onwards.

I believe that like many things about this country, it's since been pulled apart and ruined.

[The Don]

I can't exactly dig up stats from the 60's, however I can look at other countries with the death penalty and compare them to more rehabilitating focussed systems, and the differences between reoffending rates is staggering.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I can't exactly dig up stats from the 60's, however I can look at other countries with the death penalty and compare them to more rehabilitating focussed systems, and the differences between reoffending rates is staggering.

I do not and have not recommended we follow either the American or some other criminal justice system.

I've always believed that the old British system was uniquely the best just as I believe our parliamentary system for example is the best.

[The Don]

I do not and have not recommended we follow either the American or some other criminal justice system.

I've always believed that the old British system was uniquely the best just as I believe our parliamentary system for example is the best.

Well, I can't look up the statistics for that, but again, if a particular system is doing really well (Norways) why not follow that method?

[Kyle]

I do not and have not recommended we follow either the American or some other criminal justice system.

I've always believed that the old British system was uniquely the best just as I believe our parliamentary system for example is the best.

Hmm... I fear you may be too hung up on the concept of a golden age of policing to acknowledge how far the british CJS has come as a whole since the 60s. Interested to know what it is that you think made the old British system 'uniquely the best' and what has changed your mind since then.