Habbox/HabboxLive/HabboxForum access for Site Coders

[Nixt]

Also - I don't see every rare value reporter needing to be told they've done an excellent job after they send a report in or whatever and that's how it should be. You applied for / accepted the job and I'm sure everything you've done has been met with a 'thanks' at least. Do charity workers expect to be thanked for helping out? No. I know when I was staff I wanted to help Habbox (I still do as a member as I'm not allowed to be staff) it wasn't a case of being recognised for what I did it was about doing the job I worked hard to get and doing it well. I think the same principals should apply.

The difference is that Rare Values Reporters get weekly reports, as do other members of staff (or monthly) and get praised for their work. They get staff of the month, and some VIP. They have a manager who knows the exact details of their work and is able to recognise hard work when they see it. Of course they're doing it for the love of Habbox, but it's not even that they don't get praise, they're not really recognised at all when they actually have one of the most pivotal jobs at Habbox (ensuring the new site is coded... interactive content is to a high standard, etc). When you were at Habbox, you got public exposure, and other people do too. Praise isn't the be all and end all, but for them it's a whole different scenario that means it does seem they are ultimately ignored. The coding team just need more structure, so they're recognised as members of staff rather than people to be called upon when a manager is too lazy to manually update a timetable or something.

JUST IMHO DON'T FLAME

[Chippiewill]

If a coder has access to one directory on the server then, unless there's some tight security,they can fiddle with the rest of the server directories.

[Jamesy]

I do agree that the site coders aren't really part of the content department, they should really be given their own space and recognition.

[Recursion]

inb4 too many forums and staff

[myke]

Yes, and I have more access there (I've been there about a week and something) than I have in being here for 10 months. My status on CH has nothing to do with whether or not I am a security risk to HxF. Wouldn't I have leaked v6 plans if I was?

you've always been pro 'feeling more in control' so yanno

not sure what to think of this, i dont see anything wrong with the way it works atm??

I do agree that the site coders aren't really part of the content department, they should really be given their own space and recognition.

the word there underlined explains everything

[Nixt]

I do agree that the site coders aren't really part of the content department, they should really be given their own space and recognition.

I think:

Get rid of AGM (Content) and promote someone to Site Manager. Someone with a knowledge of coding and the ability to manage a team with similar knowledge. The Site Manager, along with his team of coders, can then ensure the site is up to date and well maintained with full access to the site etc etc.

The content team itself is obsolete and will become more so after V6. Give Management access to edit different areas of the site so they can ensure that things regarding their departments are kept up to date and the Site Manager can tweak content every now and then.

That way the coders actually have direction and will be recognised as members of a department. You are also getting rid of pointless roles and making sure the new Habbox site is actually created!

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This is only like a broad idea, would need proper implementation etc.

[mr.tom]

"Stop snooping in the scripts directory please!"

how do i get on

also vouch for blob he's really good on ch

[Robbie]

I think:

Get rid of AGM (Content) and promote someone to Site Manager. Someone with a knowledge of coding and the ability to manage a team with similar knowledge. The Site Manager, along with his team of coders, can then ensure the site is up to date and well maintained with full access to the site etc etc.

The content team itself is obsolete and will become more so after V6. Give Management access to edit different areas of the site so they can ensure that things regarding their departments are kept up to date and the Site Manager can tweak content every now and then.

That way the coders actually have direction and will be recognised as members of a department. You are also getting rid of pointless roles and making sure the new Habbox site is actually created!

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This is only like a broad idea, would need proper implementation etc.

I agree, mentioned this a while back I think.

[myke]

Take this how you want to take it but this is as at least two out of the three site coders at the moment -

We code. Lots. But for what? One thing is recognition. We get little or no recognition for the work that we do (oh I've been put in an announcement.. twice I think? And that is after 10 months). I haven't even seen Robbie featured in one at all. No thanks - for the work we do other, if done on other fansites you would get a thread dedicated to thanking you or talking about how awesome the new feature is or how to improve it. But no, not here, the only thread you get is in the Congratulations thread where someone just posts a thread for every single new member of staff and people who reply do actually mean it and the others are just a "oh well done" or something.

The reason why I also code for CH is because it is much nicer there. I am trusted with more access in a week than 10 months at Habbox. You get recognition there and the feel of actually doing something that the community want is great as you only have to talk to Ryan to get the go ahead and he is actually involved with the site, then you are left to your own accord. It is a complete contrast to Habbox - Habbox is too business like in the way it operates. Habbos are no longer looking for the professional fansite (to some extent) - they want to be closer to a welcoming community that is actually with the times of Habbo where it is more friendlier and relaxed - a complete contrast to Habbox, which is why Habbox is dying.

With our access to Habbox, we could delete the whole directory we have now and the site wouldn't function greatly. No "goodies" (even though they are miles out of date) - no rare values, and I'm sorry to say Dan and Dan, and as much as I love you both, is un-necessary and is just a pointless page. So what is the difference if we have full FTP? Nothing.

Take offense by that if you wish, call me selfish or whatever. But that is, the shock reality. Get with it.

/rant

my graphic designers make plenty of graphics, yes i understand coding may take more time but by the time they've made 5 graphics and had to make changes and repost them, it's probably the equivalent of you making one page (if you are as competent as you post like you are), do they post complaining they don't get recognition? nope. they don't get recognition, i'll post in the thread saying 'thanks so and so i like it' or w.e. i dont post announcements for them ',JESS, HAS JUST MADE THIS GRAPHIC - +REP HER' - I know that recognition is nice, and pleasant; everybody likes some sometime, and you get some sometimes. the fact of it is that you shouldnt do it for the recognition, you should do it for the enjoyment. if you don't enjoy it here, then you've just said clubhabbos better, bye ryan? you don't get praise and pats on the head in work, nor school nor anywhere in life, you get it very rarely and that's what makes praise special and pleasant, aye people do things and it's nice to be recognised and thanked or congratulated, it doesn't happen all the time (in your own words) 'get with it.'

you're posting how much you hate habbox and how poor the management and access and stuff is, why are you still coding then? why don't you PM people and explain your concerns, i know that with alkaz being my GM i can take things to him if they're not working, i can discuss them and on the majority of times, things are fixed (although sometimes are out of his control).

This whole issue has just been blown out of the water and needs to be put back down to size, in the most harsh and blunt way possible, there's bigger things for people to "worry" about rather than the amount of access you have to a website - you've been doing your jobs fine so far using the scripts directory?

yh you probably wont like what i've just said but if i have an opinion i'll post it..

[Blob]

Ah I see Myke, you still have a problem with me after I suggested HxL and Hx merge.

my graphic designers make plenty of graphics, yes i understand coding may take more time but by the time they've made 5 graphics and had to make changes and repost them, it's probably the equivalent of you making one page (if you are as competent as you post like you are), do they post complaining they don't get recognition? nope. they don't get recognition, i'll post in the thread saying 'thanks so and so i like it' or w.e. i dont post announcements for them ',JESS, HAS JUST MADE THIS GRAPHIC - +REP HER' - I know that recognition is nice, and pleasant; everybody likes some sometime, and you get some sometimes. the fact of it is that you shouldnt do it for the recognition, you should do it for the enjoyment.

Enjoying something is hard when you get no recognition for it. They get no recognition, yes, and they have every right to ask for it in a feedback thread when it comes up or they can make it themselves. Just because your graphic designers don't get recognition doesn't mean my opinion is invalid.

if you don't enjoy it here, then you've just said clubhabbos better, bye ryan?

I'm only here as I don't want to see Habbox v6 fail and I like some of the management team, they are a great laugh.

you don't get praise and pats on the head in work, nor school nor anywhere in life, you get it very rarely and that's what makes praise special and pleasant, aye people do things and it's nice to be recognised and thanked or congratulated, it doesn't happen all the time (in your own words) 'get with it.'

Yes you do, it depends on how your school goes about things.

you're posting how much you hate habbox and how poor the management and access and stuff is, why are you still coding then? why don't you PM people and explain your concerns, i know that with alkaz being my GM i can take things to him if they're not working, i can discuss them and on the majority of times, things are fixed (although sometimes are out of his control).

Read the thread. You will see that we have tried with PMs to General Management and Jin.

This whole issue has just been blown out of the water and needs to be put back down to size, in the most harsh and blunt way possible, there's bigger things for people to "worry" about rather than the amount of access you have to a website - you've been doing your jobs fine so far using the scripts directory?

Wheres v6 then?

yh you probably wont like what i've just said but if i have an opinion i'll post it..

You have every right to post an opinion.