Lord Tebbit urges by-election voters to back UKIP in attempt to derail Lib Dems

[Nationalism]

I am a active labour supporter. always have been, and if you don't know that then you are really not very well informed as it is very well known on here. As far as UKIP are concerned yes they do have some okay policies but the BNP whilst they maybe a serious political party , having looked at the BNP manifesto, on many occasions, I can say that they are most certainly facist and have racist views/policies and only have the indigenous people of Britain interests at heart. I don't stoop so low as to call anybody scum.

I wouldn't say i was not well informed if i didn't know you were a labour supporter, it's probably just because i don't take notice of you as your arguments are always not satisfactory or anything to take notice of.
As far as fascism and racism is concerned, if re-patriotising non-British citizens with the promise of Britain never interfering with their foreign affairs is deemed "facsist" by you - then so be it. The BNP simply want a a country filled with it's homelands people, a country that can have it's own laws, a country that has it's own measurements & currency, a safe country, a patriotic country and most importantly of all a proud country.
Handing away all your border controls to a super-state wannabe, is not the right thing to do.

If your referring to "scum" as the BNP, then your offending me again - remember no offending allowed here? Or does that not apply to staff. :rolleyes:

[Fez]

I didn't know where to put this but apparently voter turnout has been very low so far, the plan for PPUK is to go door knocking and get people out. I've read tweets about electioneers waking people up at the crack of dawn to vote and some stories where they haven't seen a Tory poster or advocate at all today. With the Lib Dems on such little chances and with a low turnout, I've got no doubt that I'l going to make a bet; that PPUK will get at least 1% of the final vote. I have a feeling UKIP will do tremendously well with the other big two aside from Labour doing poorly.

[Robbie]

I didn't know where to put this but apparently voter turnout has been very low so far, the plan for PPUK is to go door knocking and get people out. I've read tweets about electioneers waking people up at the crack of dawn to vote and some stories where they haven't seen a Tory poster or advocate at all today. With the Lib Dems on such little chances and with a low turnout, I've got no doubt that I'l going to make a bet; that PPUK will get at least 1% of the final vote. I have a feeling UKIP will do tremendously well with the other big two aside from Labour doing poorly.

I don't know anyone who is voting, other than the old people on my street. Who are voting Lib Dem. I did witness this myself too: http://www.indhome.com/2011/01/bnp-s...rmance-oldham/

[Fez]

Turnout is between 40 and 45%, Labour say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/b...-live#block-17

Yup.

[Robbie]

Labour win.

Lab
Lib
Con
Ukip
Bnp
Everyone else nobody likes

[Catzsy]

I wouldn't say i was not well informed if i didn't know you were a labour supporter, it's probably just because i don't take notice of you as your arguments are always not satisfactory or anything to take notice of.
As far as fascism and racism is concerned, if re-patriotising non-British citizens with the promise of Britain never interfering with their foreign affairs is deemed "facsist" by you - then so be it. The BNP simply want a a country filled with it's homelands people, a country that can have it's own laws, a country that has it's own measurements & currency, a safe country, a patriotic country and most importantly of all a proud country.
Handing away all your border controls to a super-state wannabe, is not the right thing to do.

If your referring to "scum" as the BNP, then your offending me again - remember no offending allowed here? Or does that not apply to staff. :rolleyes:

1. I don't stoop so low as to call anybody 'scum' that is what I said - how can you interpret that any other way! I think you will find that being 'rude' to/about somebody is against the rules - this doesn't extend to being rude about a political party. If that was offending then most of the members in this section would break the rules.

2. Actually I would take it as an honour if you didn't read/reply to my posts


3. Your description of the BNP sounds like 'Alice in Facist' Land and that's where it will always be.

4. Labour won by a thumping majority - argument/discussion over.

[MrPinkPanther]

The Pirate Party and many others are for the AV Campaign (http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/campai...av-referendum/) which will mean fairer voting - and it will be done via a referendum, democracy in action (we don't get that often). I don't think there's ever a wasted vote anyway and you could say if for instance the 1st party got 10,000 votes and the 2nd party got 8,999 then 1,000 votes for the 1st party were wasted votes really.

AV is not fair, AV is not proportional. Sorry.

[Moh]

Although Labour got it, I agree with most the things UKIP stand for, especially getting away from the EU! They're pretty much stealing from us every day when the country can't afford it. Just people don't seam to care because we get cheaper travel to other countries within the EU :/

Their views on Education and global warming are also good ^_^

[-:Undertaker:-]

Labour Party 42.1%
Liberal Democrats 31.9%
Conservative Party 12.8%
UK Independence Party (UKIP) 5.8%
British National Party (BNP) 4.5%

Well it seems tribalism is still well and alive in Oldham and Saddleworth, I just wonder are the people of Oldham and Saddleworth aware of the £7.9tn debt the Labour government left behind? that's not to mention the handovers of power to the European Union, the seeping in of political correctness and just general corruption of the last 13 years.

And when I say Labour, I also am referring often to the Liberal Democrats and the Conservative Party.

I am a active labour supporter. always have been, and if you don't know that then you are really not very well informed as it is very well known on here. As far as UKIP are concerned yes they do have some okay policies but the BNP whilst they maybe a serious political party , having looked at the BNP manifesto, on many occasions, I can say that they are most certainly facist and have racist views/policies and only have the indigenous people of Britain interests at heart. I don't stoop so low as to call anybody scum.

I agree, but would that also apply to the 'positive discrimination' policies of the Labour Party?

The EU is elected although I do feel that it is too bureaucratic and the party that comes up with a way to streamline this will get a lot of votes but the people of this country are not going to rise up because if that. Saying that Britain should just 'withdraw' is just 'pie in the sky' - somebody has to come up with a viable alternative and tell the people of this country what it is and how they will be affected.

The EU is not elected and I ask you to explain how it is at all elected. The only part of the European Union that the British people are able to elect is the EU parliament which is nothing more than a talking shop and does not have any real parliamentary powers. That said, even if the EU parliament did have real legislative powers we would still be outvoted as a nation on many issues as we already are on trivial issues as we only have a population of around 60m out of 450m odd.

Herman Van Rompuy is not elected.
Jose Barroso and the Commission (the motor for integration) are not elected.

This is a recent video from around a month ago, and this is their idea of 'EU democracy' - their cracked mindset;

Elected in secret.. by friends.

[Robbie]

The biggest positive I saw from this vote was how present UKIP were throughout Oldham. Nobody else (that I saw) took out multiple billboards etc. This was always expected anyway, everyone here is stuck in their ways and this seat will probably swing from Lab to Lib and back again until the end of time.

http://twitter.com/#!/IABarker/status/24273400323117056
http://twitter.com/#!/HouseofTwits/s...41548399071232
http://twitter.com/#!/jreynoldsMP/st...38135422607360
http://twitter.com/#!/lewis_baston/s...90904417280000
http://twitter.com/#!/JonRidge/status/25706339795734528
http://twitter.com/#!/anoif_/status/25597079149617153
http://twitter.com/#!/LizMcInnes/sta...30958534180864
http://twitter.com/#!/LukeYoung/stat...23776174133249
http://twitter.com/#!/hannoir/status/24115649852739584
http://twitter.com/#!/JamesABolton/s...22170639138816
http://twitter.com/#!/chrisjlovell/s...20962199879680
http://twitter.com/#!/chriswiggin/st...84576180666368


http://ukipoldham.org/2011/01/12/bil...ttacked-again/

That's enough for now