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    I completely agree.

    We've presently got quite a stable Rep system at the moment and there's no point in changing it unless serious issues arise from it. Also, like FlyingJesus said, users would have to contribute more and more as their account gets older, or contribute more meaningful posts in order to compensate for the progression of thier account and the regression of their Rep power. And as their power isn't as static, new users won't be able to tell who was well known in a time beforehand.

    It would also be like saying to every single user on the forum that now that they're older, they have to contribute a lot more otherwise they're going have their Rep taken away from them, which isn't really fair on anyone, be it a high contributor with loads of rep, or vise-versa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    At the end of the day, reputation should be for useful reasons. I know when nvrspk4 was in his AGM/GM roles he cracked upon people giving out useless reputation and cleared useless rep from users. I don't think the system should actually be changed, but rather could be taken care of in a more vigilant way like it was in the olden days. I would be the first to admit that I have a reputation or point or two from some completely useless post in a staff spam thread.

    As for the current system, I do not see a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    I don't believe this would be possible unless the person in question was some sort of real life celebrity tbh
    Well exactly, it's quite unlikely that they'd get to a very high reputation quickly , what I'm saying is that suddenly it's possible if they are (Somehow) as respected.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    I think it'd be a huge disrespect to Chirs' contributions on the forum to be implied as equal to someone who's only just turned up
    Most respect is earned and that difference would remain , in order to achieve the same level a new user would have to make their posts of a higher quality.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    and having rep points / post count or join date would essentially mean that if one of us no-lifers repped a new member on their first post their reputation would show as being around 30x what ours is just for saying hello.
    That was a concern of mine and I do have a solution to that but that would actually be slightly complicated to implement unlike my current proposal (Although it still wouldn't take more than half an hour) which would involve caching the rep total over 100 days, however that might tax the server a bit too much.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Also if it was done with join date as a divisive factor it would mean that everyone's rep would dwindle over time, and inactive former legends like Smiddy who hasn't been on since 2009 would eventually be made to look as though he'd never done anything for the forum and wasn't wildly popular
    That was my intention, it would encourage people to remain active, it's not news that Habbox is less active than it was a few years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neversoft View Post
    What is wrong with that? As I said to Jin the other day, the reputation hierarchy on this forum is incredibly average and everything is as it should be - nothing needs changing. On nearly every single forum that uses the reputation system older users who have stayed active will naturally have higher reputation and as Ben says, they have all put more into the forum (so to speak) so really I don't see why anyone should have a problem with that.
    I never doubted it wasn't average and as I said your long term contributions would still be reflected in the amount you're repped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neversoft View Post
    These days you can pretty much tell if a newer member is respected or popular by looking at their rep blocks anyway.
    Although you'd still have to compare it to their join date or number of posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    At the end of the day, reputation should be for useful reasons. I know when nvrspk4 was in his AGM/GM roles he cracked upon people giving out useless reputation and cleared useless rep from users. I don't think the system should actually be changed, but rather could be taken care of in a more vigilant way like it was in the olden days. I would be the first to admit that I have a reputation or point or two from some completely useless post in a staff spam thread.
    This would be a good thing to implement in my opinion but would be difficult to achieve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiizzz View Post
    People with high rep (I'll be a sheep and say Neversoft) have earnt that rep. I don't think it would be very fair for years of effort put into the forum to be earnt in a matter of months/weeks/days.
    Covered this point above.

    Quote Originally Posted by .Sarcastix. View Post
    We've presently got quite a stable Rep system at the moment and there's no point in changing it unless serious issues arise from it. Also, like FlyingJesus said, users would have to contribute more and more as their account gets older, or contribute more meaningful posts in order to compensate for the progression of thier account and the regression of their Rep power. And as their power isn't as static, new users won't be able to tell who was well known in a time beforehand. It would also be like saying to every single user on the forum that now that they're older, they have to contribute a lot more otherwise they're going have their Rep taken away from them, which isn't really fair on anyone, be it a high contributor with loads of rep, or vise-versa.
    I don't get that at all, they'd have to just be as active as they always have to retain the same displayed rep.

    I can't say I'm surprised at how unwilling older members are to this, as a contrast it would be nice to see some posts from newer users. Please don't be shy, this thread is almost entirely aimed at benefiting you!
    Chippiewill.


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    Don't fix something that isn't broken, especially when it was only repaired last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    Although you'd still have to compare it to their join date or number of posts
    And that's too hard, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neversoft View Post
    And that's too hard, is it?
    My method involves having it 'hardwired' as it were and also acts as sort of an extension of the green bars

    Management, please don't stamp it as a bad idea until a few newer users can respond.
    Last edited by Chippiewill; 03-02-2011 at 09:57 PM.
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    Sorry Chippiewill, I just think it is fine as it is.

    I know making new users feel good and equal etcetera is important, but people tend to forget the vital balance. It is all well and good making new users feel amazing (although I really don't think it does), but you need to remember the old members - who whether you like them or not, have kept Habbox going and made it what it is today.


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    I wouldn't be too thrilled if some new member had the same rep as I within a few months. I don't care how good your posts are - stay active on the forums and you'll soon move up the reputation ranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by le harry View Post
    I wouldn't be too thrilled if some new member had the same rep as I within a few months. I don't care how good your posts are - stay active on the forums and you'll soon move up the reputation ranks.
    I have to say this with Neversoft's response does it for me. There was a radical change in rep a few years ago which moved everybody down although it was done for a good reason that time.
    Some of us not only have been active and posting for years but also have the same account so the rep we have is just reward for that. It is just fine as it is in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    My method involves having it 'hardwired' as it were and also acts as sort of an extension of the green bars

    Management, please don't stamp it as a bad idea until a few newer users can respond.
    I can actually consider myself a new user in comparison to the other big guns on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    My method involves having it 'hardwired' as it were and also acts as sort of an extension of the green bars

    Management, please don't stamp it as a bad idea until a few newer users can respond.
    Newer users may respond, however the older users should have just as big a say, or maybe an even bigger say in this particular feedback thread imo.

    Also, the fact hardly any new users HAVE responded to this date suggests it isn't making them too sad!


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