Staff resignations

[GommeInc]

They can, yes, although the maximum away time is 3 weeks. If it's above that, then you might have to resign; which I think is fair really.

I agree with what you've said in terms of expecting a place back so soon. Like I said, in Rare Values you have to go on trial again and start at the bottom of the ladder again. And some other departments do this as well.

As for going away, if it's more than three weeks then you may be asked to resign. I believe that applies to all departments.

Hmmm, seems a bit odd to ask them to resign when they could return soon after. If they are being asked to resign then maybe that's the cause to the problem (of what seems like people resigning and returning soon after). If they are going on long periods of leave and have said they will still do their job then you may as well keep them to eliminate these ideas that they are returning and leaving at their own will. I think making them go through the trialist position is a bit odd when nothing has changed in those 3 weeks - it's not like they've been gone 3 years or been hit hard around the back of the head in that short amount of time Naturally it's trying to make them look useless and unwanted for Habbox as they have resigned and are returning, but it's not really solving any issues - it's just trying to make it look less of an obvious problem but failing in the process.

In th real world you just ask for an extended leave notice and the staff are notified of that and an estimated time of return. If you're a manager a replacement is found in the mean time, but as normal staff you just get moved into the background for the time being. You're running a fansite afterall, not a SME where the whole workforce keeps the ship afloat - and they're not being paid so it's no cost to Habbox

Perhaps the manager of the department could say "X is taking extended leave and will not be as active for the meantime."

[nvrspk4]

Hmmm, seems a bit odd to ask them to resign when they could return soon after. If they are being asked to resign then maybe that's the cause to the problem (of what seems like people resigning and returning soon after). If they are going on long periods of leave and have said they will still do their job then you may as well keep them to eliminate these ideas that they are returning and leaving at their own will. I think making them go through the trialist position is a bit odd when nothing has changed in those 3 weeks - it's not like they've been gone 3 years or been hit hard around the back of the head in that short amount of time Naturally it's trying to make them look useless and unwanted for Habbox as they have resigned and are returning, but it's not really solving any issues - it's just trying to make it look less of an obvious problem but failing in the process.

In th real world you just ask for an extended leave notice and the staff are notified of that and an estimated time of return. If you're a manager a replacement is found in the mean time, but as normal staff you just get moved into the background for the time being. You're running a fansite afterall, not a SME where the whole workforce keeps the ship afloat - and they're not being paid so it's no cost to Habbox

Perhaps the manager of the department could say "X is taking extended leave and will not be as active for the meantime."

If they're going on a long period of leave then they probably won't do their job Also, from experience, those who go on long periods of leave more often than not do not return to their job as enthusiastically. With definite exceptions, but this way you don't have to decide when it's time to cut them as they're still missing etc.

Also, some departments have (or at least had) hard staff caps for various reasons. I put staff caps on HxHD and HxL (as I'm sure Jess and Scotty remember :eusa_ange) and in my opinion they did a lot of good for the departments, though they do make it difficult to allow people to stay on while on extended leave.

[GommeInc]

If they're going on a long period of leave then they probably won't do their job Also, from experience, those who go on long periods of leave more often than not do not return to their job as enthusiastically. With definite exceptions, but this way you don't have to decide when it's time to cut them as they're still missing etc.

Also, some departments have (or at least had) hard staff caps for various reasons. I put staff caps on HxHD and HxL (as I'm sure Jess and Scotty remember :eusa_ange) and in my opinion they did a lot of good for the departments, though they do make it difficult to allow people to stay on while on extended leave.

Innocent until proven guilty then, if they have said they will continue to do their job then stick by that and wait for their return. If the department cannot afford to lose staff or the member returns and isn't interested then fire them (or ask them to resign, as you seem to put it ) It saves the Managers from piggy-backing a system of regulations which is a waste of time for everyone and deems a Manager a mindless robot void of making any of their own decisions. Let them decide what's best for their department, they're not managers if they can't use their initiative. Besides, there is no harm or risk involved - it's a fansite afterall, I'm not sure why people look over that tidbit of information

[Chippiewill]

why do managers, who usually know how to run their department best/what staff changes need to be made, need to have a pointless rule added so that every couple of days they have to check if they can allow somebody back? I can't think of anything more annoying, time consuming and just pointless than this rule.

We all damn well know that you don't like when departments (UK) get dictated rules by management (EU), it doesn't mean that it cannot work effectively. In the end this is Habbox not "The individual departments which once made up the Habbox Federation, of which the unelected leaders lived in Brussels".

I think sometimes people on here forget that Habbox is not a business, its voluntary and that every minute of time that somebody spares for this website is doing it for the website.

There is nothing wrong from treating it slightly like a business if it allows Habbox to run in a more organised and coherent way. They are volunteers, however, in some departments there are a LOT of volunteers who are not given the opportunity because staff turn around four days after leaving a department to say they wish to rejoin and in many cases they are put right at the top of the list.

[The Don]

We all damn well know that you don't like when departments (UK) get dictated rules by management (EU), it doesn't mean that it cannot work effectively. In the end this is Habbox not "The individual departments which once made up the Habbox Federation, of which the unelected leaders lived in Brussels".


There is nothing wrong from treating it slightly like a business if it allows Habbox to run in a more organised and coherent way. They are volunteers, however, in some departments there are a LOT of volunteers who are not given the opportunity because staff turn around four days after leaving a department to say they wish to rejoin and in many cases they are put right at the top of the list.

Like you've just said, there is nothing wrong with treating it like a business, and what would a company choose, hiring new staff and having to train them, or taking back staff who have recently resigned who are trusted, friendly with the other staff and know what to do. It benefits Habbox by re-hiring those who have resigned however unfair it may be on people wanting to become staff, but then again, life isn't always fair.

[GommeInc]

We all damn well know that you don't like when departments (UK) get dictated rules by management (EU), it doesn't mean that it cannot work effectively. In the end this is Habbox not "The individual departments which once made up the Habbox Federation, of which the unelected leaders lived in Brussels".


There is nothing wrong from treating it slightly like a business if it allows Habbox to run in a more organised and coherent way. They are volunteers, however, in some departments there are a LOT of volunteers who are not given the opportunity because staff turn around four days after leaving a department to say they wish to rejoin and in many cases they are put right at the top of the list.

Indeed, there's nothing wrong treating it slightly like a business, but the decision to over-regulate with a "3 week" ban from applying and a "forced-resignation" if away for more than 3 weeks is unbusiness like and unrealistic. Habbox uses volunteers, so to worry about a staff member being away for more than 3 weeks is a bit peculiar when they're not being paid to work for Habbox and it's just as easy to just get the Department Manager, who must know what he is doing to manage their department (some have already proven to have more than the necessary brain cells), to label the member who is having to take an extended leave as "Away" or "On Leave" if they've done a decent amount of work for Habbox and are more than capable of returning and acting like they've never left and I hope Habbox Staff are more than capable of using their judgment to sack someone who hasn't returned or been in contact - but I often have my doubts about this as there seems to be a lot of mindless following of systems even when a system is flawed or unnecessary.

And as The Don said - who would you hire? Someone who knows what they are doing and has experience, or waste the times training someone up? Habbox could reserve spaces for new volunteers (like a few conglomerates do), but to disregard someone capable of the position is unrealistic and crazy

[Casanova]

I personally hate this too.
I've moaned about it several times because of the higher up people/more visable people on the forum are quite frequent at leaving and coming back.
I could state one female who left/came back 4-5 times?

I think if you quit three times *under certain circumstances* you should be on the DNH list for at least a year?

[The Don]

I personally hate this too.
I've moaned about it several times because of the higher up people/more visable people on the forum are quite frequent at leaving and coming back.
I could state one female who left/came back 4-5 times?

I think if you quit three times *under certain circumstances* you should be on the DNH list for at least a year?

No, if that persons best for the job, they should be allowed to come back. It's what benefits Habbox the most, and putting people on a DNH list does not benefit Habbox in the slightest.

[Casanova]

No, if that persons best for the job, they should be allowed to come back. It's what benefits Habbox the most, and putting people on a DNH list does not benefit Habbox in the slightest.

Well, I would disagree. What benefits HX the most is having the staff? Not having amazing, unreliable staff?
I know that my boss would rather me being mediocre and reliable that amazing and spontaneous.

[GommeInc]

Well, I would disagree. What benefits HX the most is having the staff? Not having amazing, unreliable staff?
I know that my boss would rather me being mediocre and reliable that amazing and spontaneous.

Depends why they resigned, if they were forced to resign which seems to be an option then maybe they just don't have a very active job role? I'm not sure who you're talking about so it's hard to speculate on why they resign and return so often