Wars of Scottish Independence!

[scottish]

805 million people in the world 'do not have enough food to lead a healthy active life' (approx 1/9 people)

2/3 of those are in Asia.

Africa has the highest percentage of population starving (1 in 4 people)

3.1 million children die per year, 45% of those are due to poor nutrition

[Kardan]

Quite simply, poverty =/= starving.

[Collegno]

Quite simply, poverty =/= starving.

In a very technical sense, yes, but you might be accused of being pedantic. Whether or not they are medically starving, I imagine that when living on >$2 a day you are not particularly far from this state at any given time, assuming that your government is essentially indifferent to your plight.

[Kardan]

In a very technical sense, yes, but you might be accused of being pedantic. Whether or not they are medically starving, I imagine that when living on >$2 a day you are not particularly far from this state at any given time, assuming that your government is essentially indifferent to your plight.

It's not being pedantic, they're different terms.

Poverty is essentially the lack of money. Estimates are that over 3 billion people are considered to be in poverty, that's less than $2.50 a day.
Starving is the lack of food. Only 842 million people are considered to be starving.

It is possible to be in poverty and still eat.
Likewise, it's easy to be starving and not be in poverty. Maybe looking at it that way makes it more clear what the difference is.

[Collegno]

Even if we were to eschew starving, wold you really like to make the claim that there are less people now starving in India than before they gained their independence?

[Collegno]

Even if we were to eschew starving, wold you really like to make the claim that there are less people now starving in India than before they gained their independence?

Edit: That made no sense. Re-phrase: Even if we eschew the statistic of one billion starving people, as it was largely irrelevant to the broader point I was making, do you think that India is better or worse, in a utilitarian sense?

[buttons]

this is the timetable of when the results of each councils ballot is announced



Not sure what the yes rating is? My council is at 3am (7 rating) and my city at 6am (4 rating) ahhhh I wanna watch it all, if it'll be on tv?
@A4R0N; @-:Undertaker:-;

also pub licenses being issued to allow them to stay open til later

[GommeInc]

Not sure what the yes rating is? My council is at 3am (7 rating) and my city at 6am (4 rating) ahhhh I wanna watch it all, if it'll be on tv?
@A4R0N; @-:Undertaker:-;

Good question, it doesn't really correlate to how the results are expected to go :S Perhaps given the size of Glasgow, Edinburgh etc there won't be an overwhelming Yes/No, while in small councils like Clackmannanshire they're so anti-British/English they're likely to be an absolute yes?

It should be on TV The BBC were advertising a programme starting sometime around 10-11pm which might go on until the morning. If not, BBC Parliament or BBC News.

[-:Undertaker:-]

[scottish]

this is going to be interesting