Wars of Scottish Independence!

[Kimmy]

Think of slaughter and War. Think of a time where flags were flown and the men they belonged to savaged all by the wish of a country where we could find our own. Horse drawn carts of corpses and dreams, the ideas of a simple vote of 'yes' or 'no' such a bizarre way to remedy the constant fight for both survival and an independence that'd mark the Scot's as their own people.
Then again, think of unification. Imagine our country and people, where for as long as we've known, stood side by side with no division between who we are but simply who we stand for.
In the 1300's, in the reign of King Edward II, people were forced to chose their sides. The possibilities of having lands on both England and Scotland were abolished. It wasn't a vote of 'yes' or 'no', but a count of how many people were willing to stand and fight, and how many to die for their country.



Here in the eye of the buzz, I've become curious on the reasons why and not people are voting. Why are the yes voters so keen to detach themselves from our neighbours, and why are the no voters so willing to give up a fight that's lasted for hundreds of years?
I'm also curious on the English's views on the current situation.

Even still, I ventured further than the United Kingdom itself to ask an Australian as a distant onlooker on his views of the foreseeable independence:

Remy says, “It's a good chance because you're like, independent and stuff. It's a chance to get a new, stronger, real identity. India became Independent, look how far it's come! Australia is almost there, ties to Britain really have no purpose anymore.”


I asked an Englishman of his thoughts of losing Scotland's bonds. Joe, a HabboxLive DJ replied:

Joe says, “I'd say I think it's completely right that the Scottish should have the opportunity to be self determinent and chose whether they wish their country to go it alone or to remain in the union. But, I think that the negative parts of independence have been largely ignored by the Scottish media and that therefore, the people who are elible to vote are not being given a true and accurate representation of the consequences of an Independent Scotland.”

I then asked how he feels, as an English bloke, about losing Scotland:

“I think it's very sad that travelling there on holiday would be difficult, but I've always had a deep affinity with Scotland so I think that independence would provide Scotland with a nationalistic spirit.”

On far more negative levels, I'd like to conclude that one Englishman referred to it as:
“Good riddance.” - Perhaps reflection of a strong anti-Scottish perspective!

So, I hit closer to home with my next questions asked to a close friend of mine, who is more or less the most Scottish lass' I know. Emma told me:

“I think we should do it. When have West minister ever took Scotland seriously apart from when we're making them money? If we don't get independence they'll really bleed us dry, they'll take us for everything. Things might not change immediately, but in a few years time we'll be much better off.” When I asked her if she knew of any no voters she replied, “Naw, man. Everybody I knew is voting aye!”

On a search for any No voters, I discovered a few quotes of
“Vote no and save the union,” and Alistair Darling seems to be in no doubt with an optimistic “We will win.”
Watch your back, Mr. Darling! The Scots are nipping very closely at your heels!


And so I wonder, whether or not you're Scottish, English, Austrlian or Indian, what are your views on independence and why? Do you think the Scots will find their freedom?
From War to Voting, it'll be interesting by all means to sit back and observe the outcome, especially when you're as nonchalent as I am!
Looking forwards to updating you all on Friday when the results are revealed!

[-:Undertaker:-]

A good article and an interesting read, although I will comment on two parts.

A +rep for your efforts.

India became Independent, look how far it's come!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha *gasps for air*

Do you think the Scots will find their freedom?

Scotland is free within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, ironically though if Scotland does come independent it will immediately join the European Union, lose the few opt-outs that Britain has at the moment, and will be governed from Brussels.

The real issue of national independence is at the European level, not the British level.

[Kimmy]

A good article and an interesting read, although I will comment on two parts.

A +rep for your efforts.



Hahahahahahahahahahaha *gasps for air*



Scotland is free within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, ironically though if Scotland does come independent it will immediately join the European Union, lose the few opt-outs that Britain has at the moment, and will be governed from Brussels.

The real issue of national independence is at the European level, not the British level.

In all fairness, it was the Australian with the India comment, not myself. I find the general concept of independance interesting. It'll be amusing to see where it takes us.

[-:Undertaker:-]

In all fairness, it was the Australian with the India comment, not myself. I find the general concept of independance interesting. It'll be amusing to see where it takes us.

No I know, that's why I didn't quote it as you and coloured the writing in blue.

[Kimmy]

No I know, that's why I didn't quote it as you and coloured the writing in blue.

The dude was born in India, ofc he'd be patriotic.

[Collegno]

The dude was born in India, ofc he'd be patriotic.

Patriotism is no excuse for idiocy.

[Kimmy]

Now, now Joe.

Patriotism is no excuse for idiocy.

[Lewis]

Definitely for independence.

Also, what does that person mean that the media aren't saying the truth behind what could go wrong with independence? That's all they ever do, alongside a million lies to go with it . I can't think of one newspaper, news site, the overall media etc that isn't against independence!

[-:Undertaker:-]

The dude was born in India, ofc he'd be patriotic.

I'm as patriotic as they come, but I still think and admit my country been run by idiots and gone backwards over the last half a century.

[Kimmy]

Usually is run by idiots. :rolleyes:

I'm as patriotic as they come, but I still think and admit my country been run by idiots and gone backwards over the last half a century.

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Definitely for independence.

Also, what does that person mean that the media aren't saying the truth behind what could go wrong with independence? That's all they ever do, alongside a million lies to go with it . I can't think of one newspaper, news site, the overall media etc that isn't against independence!

I think they mean more so with the Scottish media who're most definitely rooting for the independence. In many places they've cut out vital details and shed far more light on the complimentary side of things than the derogatory, influencing people to vote yes than to vote no.