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    shouldnt be allowed, it's murder imo.
    even if the baby isn't an actual baby yet, you're murdering a potential baby.

    and saying putting children in an orphanage isn't a good option is stupid, surely it's better than killing them :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkle View Post
    shouldnt be allowed, it's murder imo.
    even if the baby isn't an actual baby yet, you're murdering a potential baby.

    and saying putting children in an orphanage isn't a good option is stupid, surely it's better than killing them :/
    On your logic all women are killing a "potenal baby" every 28 days(ish) and men, where looking in the millions.

    Potental baby means nothing. A can of fizzy drink, when was just metal head the poetantal to become part of a giant super computer than could have enslaved the plaent and turned the terminator movie in to real life. Everything has the potential to do pretty much anything, Its potential to do something is meaningless "/

    try applying it to the justice system, every human has the potental to murder another, should we just lock everyone in the world up becuse of this??
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    It's not actually murder as the child isnt independant of its mother. E.g. if you killed the baby inside a woman by punching her or something then you wouldnt be guilty of murder if the child doesnt have an "indepedant existence of its mother"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastShadow View Post
    No..How woulld u like it to be killed when you were in your mothers womb? Think about it.

    ANd even in rhape circumstances, it shouldnt be allowed. Its murder and its not giving the poor child a chance at life.
    It may not be morally right to have an abortion in some circumstances but they're always gonner happen and tbh I'd rather people who didn't want their kid had an abortion otherwise the kid might get neglected. Also if they are born but realise they were gonner be aborted or get adopted then they're probably gonner end up with low self esteem and rubbish jobs or something (I know that seems a bit extreme but ) especially if they're going from one family to another (I know adoption doesnt work like that but fostering does e.t.c.)

    Also you can't really say to the woman "have the baby and then put it up for adoption" because the woman has still gotta go through the process of giving birth, taking time off work e.t.c just to give the baby away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bliss View Post
    shouldnt be allowed, it's murder imo.
    even if the baby isn't an actual baby yet, you're murdering a potential baby.

    and saying putting children in an orphanage isn't a good option is stupid, surely it's better than killing them :/

    Yeah, but what is a potential baby? Guys have millions of 'potential babies' in them, and a lot of them are wasted. Anything could be considered stopping a potential baby. Hell, you could argue that by not having sex, you just killed another human being.

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    yh but
    what if they dont want to have a family
    you might aswell have a abortion
    rather than not knowing what to do or sumit
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    Quote Originally Posted by x-umby-x View Post
    Yes but in many cases.. say its too late to have an abortion and the mother decides to have the child adopted, the mother falls in love with the child.You say every child deserves a good life... No life is perfect. They may be orphans but that doesn't mean they'll have a bad life and even if they do everyone suffers at some point in there life.
    That doesn't mean you have to make the suffering worse or that you have to make them suffer for most of their lives.
    "The mother falls in love with the child." I don't think so. If a mother wants to have an abortion it either doesn't want the child or she can't take care of the child, so the only way for the mother to fall in love with the child is when she is unable to take care of the child, but she made the right decision. (Which is what this debate is about, "is it right?")

    Quote Originally Posted by bliss View Post
    shouldnt be allowed, it's murder imo.
    even if the baby isn't an actual baby yet, you're murdering a potential baby.

    and saying putting children in an orphanage isn't a good option is stupid, surely it's better than killing them :/
    It isn't a real baby, as explained in the next 2 quotes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seacat View Post
    It's not actually murder as the child isnt independant of its mother. E.g. if you killed the baby inside a woman by punching her or something then you wouldnt be guilty of murder if the child doesnt have an "indepedant existence of its mother"



    It may not be morally right to have an abortion in some circumstances but they're always gonner happen and tbh I'd rather people who didn't want their kid had an abortion otherwise the kid might get neglected. Also if they are born but realise they were gonner be aborted or get adopted then they're probably gonner end up with low self esteem and rubbish jobs or something (I know that seems a bit extreme but ) especially if they're going from one family to another (I know adoption doesnt work like that but fostering does e.t.c.)

    Also you can't really say to the woman "have the baby and then put it up for adoption" because the woman has still gotta go through the process of giving birth, taking time off work e.t.c just to give the baby away.
    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    On your logic all women are killing a "potenal baby" every 28 days(ish) and men, where looking in the millions.

    Potental baby means nothing. A can of fizzy drink, when was just metal head the poetantal to become part of a giant super computer than could have enslaved the plaent and turned the terminator movie in to real life. Everything has the potential to do pretty much anything, Its potential to do something is meaningless "/

    try applying it to the justice system, every human has the potental to murder another, should we just lock everyone in the world up becuse of this??
    Also, it's not like the baby knows it's going "to be killed."
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    If you were rhaped i would understand because the baby would have part of him/herself of that man...
    If you were a 15year old girl who got pregnant not sure, either keep or abort the child.
    Tbh you would really need a good reason to abort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allykin View Post
    If you were rhaped i would understand because the baby would have part of him/herself of that man...
    If you were a 15year old girl who got pregnant not sure, either keep or abort the child.
    Tbh you would really need a good reason to abort.
    A 15 year old girl!? Of course she should have an abortion! I don't think her body can handle the pain. =/ (I know, it happens in poor countries, but they're different than us, in a non racist way.)
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    Only Under Circumstances...

    Hmm If They Dont Want Baby Why Dont They Put It Up For Adoption ?
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    I Don't agree with abortion due to the fact that you are killing a new Human, its just like killing a baby. it makes me feel Awful, didnt want a baby be more safer and be more protected thats what i say

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