EU President says world government is the ultimate goal

[Sammeth.]

I personally can't wait till we have a world government.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Hey undertaker if you care so much why not stop ranting about it and go do something?

Yes you are totally right, i'll just go to Brussels and sign a pullout clause for the UK, travel to Zimbabwe and oust Zanu-PF and President Mugabe and on my return persuade the Chinese leadership to dissolve the communist party.

[Agnostic Bear]

Yes you are totally right, i'll just go to Brussels and sign a pullout clause for the UK, travel to Zimbabwe and oust Zanu-PF and President Mugabe and on my return persuade the Chinese leadership to dissolve the communist party.

If you can't do anything about it, stop complaining about it and do something else with your time.

[FlyingJesus]

I'm neither pro- nor anti-Europe, but frankly I haven't noticed myself being tyrannised by an evil Belgian overlord yet. I wholly believe someone that ugly should never be allowed out of the house let alone onto TV but other than that I don't yet have anything against Rumpty Dumpty. Of course I'm likely to disagree with plenty of EU rulings, but I disagree with a lot of UK bills too, so I'll wait until he actually does something before I decide what I think of him.

As for PR being a good system, lol@any politics student believing that

[-:Undertaker:-]

If you can't do anything about it, stop complaining about it and do something else with your time.

Yes sir.

I'm neither pro- nor anti-Europe, but frankly I haven't noticed myself being tyrannised by an evil Belgian overlord yet. I wholly believe someone that ugly should never be allowed out of the house let alone onto TV but other than that I don't yet have anything against Rumpty Dumpty. Of course I'm likely to disagree with plenty of EU rulings, but I disagree with a lot of UK bills too, so I'll wait until he actually does something before I decide what I think of him.

As for PR being a good system, lol@any politics student believing that

PR has flaws yeah, a better system would be referendums on important issues being legally required, but something needs to change because this government, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats don't represent the view of the majority.

[MrPinkPanther]

this government, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats don't represent the view of the majority.

I'm pretty sure they do, hence they were elected.

If we had had an election during the Summer with a proportional voting system then UKIP would NOT be in opposition and Labour and Libs would not be consigned to the "History bin". Labour would be in opposition with the Liberal Democrats in third placed just like ALL of the opinion polls showed.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'm pretty sure they do, hence they were elected.

If we had had an election during the Summer with a proportional voting system then UKIP would NOT be in opposition and Labour and Libs would not be consigned to the "History bin". Labour would be in opposition with the Liberal Democrats in third placed just like ALL of the opinion polls showed.

UKIP would be in opposition, they polled second to the Conservatives. On the majority view, why do none of the main parties want a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty?, why do none of the main parties want to leave the European Union?, why do none of the main parties ever make any attempts to stop immigration?, why do none of the main parties wish to bring back the death penalty? (or at least have a referendum on it)

WHY do none of the main parties represent anything but eachother? - because we are stuck in a 3 party system, that ment if PR was introduced, UKIP, the Green Party and the BNP would have some real weight behind them, especially UKIP as right now it would of been Farage V Cameron at the dispatch box.

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah I hear minority governments are really good and benefit the people loads.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yeah I hear minority governments are really good and benefit the people loads.

The government should lose powers via the idea of more referendums, meaning government would become less important. Whips also need to be abolished and MP's need to vote based on what their consituency wants and not what their party wants. The lines need to be re-drawn as Scotland and Wales are over-represented based on numbers compared to English seats.

The whole system is corrupted and unjust, so thats exactly why I am for Proportional Representation. PR has its problems, but a lot of other nations around the world use that system and I think Switzerland does aswell, and thats one of the most built up and independant states in the world.

Democracy should mirror what the people want, not what the ruling elite want.