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    Quote Originally Posted by Wig44. View Post
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    No need to be so rude... she could have stopped it, but she didn't. It is ultimately her fault it happened, as it all centers on her decision to flash, but like I said, that's a very rare possible consequence of doing that. She didn't deserve it, no, but she could have stopped it right from the first harassment.

    I realise a lot of what I said has been taken completely out of context. Rewatching it (and paying attention to the last 2 minutes) made me realise that she was sharing a story, not saying I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF NOW which many of the videos do. Sharing a survival story is often a good way to help other people, but if she was truly out of the woods and strong enough then she wouldn't have killed herself after making it (I don't know how much of a gap there was between the 2 events mind you).
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    Guy goes to a club and starts dancing. His style of dance is rather flamboyant, and a random attendee with antiquated views and a violent temper sees this and chases the man out, eventually driving him into traffic where he dies. It's totes the first man's fault he died because he chose to go out dancing, right? This is what you're trying to tell people, just with a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laura View Post
    No need to be so rude... she could have stopped it, but she didn't. It is ultimately her fault it happened, as it all centers on her decision to flash, but like I said, that's a very rare possible consequence of doing that. She didn't deserve it, no, but she could have stopped it right from the first harassment.

    I realise a lot of what I said has been taken completely out of context. Rewatching it (and paying attention to the last 2 minutes) made me realise that she was sharing a story, not saying I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF NOW which many of the videos do. Sharing a survival story is often a good way to help other people, but if she was truly out of the woods and strong enough then she wouldn't have killed herself after making it (I don't know how much of a gap there was between the 2 events mind you).
    That was posted on 7th September, according to form she died on 10th October.

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    Cracking up at everyone who's saying she shouldn't of flashed in the first place? I bet half the peeps saying it are guilty of it anyways lmao :s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abi View Post
    I watched this video yesterday and it annoyed me so much. I was severely bully for 3 years, got beaten up, death threats, constant rumors being spread about me, nasty name etc etc and I kept it too myself for 2 of the 3 years because I was scared that someone would judge me and I didn't want people to know I was weak, I also contemplated suicide but never did it. Anyway it annoyed me because you wouldn't tell the entire world (sort of) if you were being bullied because you make yourself vulnerable to the stuff that happened to her. Like many have said its her own fault things got so far, if she had told someone what was happening instead of making a youtube video something would have been done and solved, cause after I told someone it got solved, yes it got worse because I told but after a few months it got better.
    Suicide is never the answer and the thing is, people are making it look glamorised which is making more people want to lie about such things and possibly even start cutting themselves
    Its just so wrong, yes its saddening to see it get that far, but I coped with it, why can't anyone else?

    sorry if you find this rude or it doesn't make sense I'm ranting *+*
    Yeah we all go through hardships without committing suicide. But you don't know what's big to someone else, you don't know how they feel, you've never been them.
    Found this on Facebook, thought it summed up my thoughts to your post nicely.

    I know loads of people are bullied or commit suicide every day but I think we should be sad that another person has had to go through this, not be outraged because she wasn't what society deems as "pure".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abi View Post
    I watched this video yesterday and it annoyed me so much. I was severely bully for 3 years, got beaten up, death threats, constant rumors being spread about me, nasty name etc etc and I kept it too myself for 2 of the 3 years because I was scared that someone would judge me and I didn't want people to know I was weak, I also contemplated suicide but never did it. Anyway it annoyed me because you wouldn't tell the entire world (sort of) if you were being bullied because you make yourself vulnerable to the stuff that happened to her. Like many have said its her own fault things got so far, if she had told someone what was happening instead of making a youtube video something would have been done and solved, cause after I told someone it got solved, yes it got worse because I told but after a few months it got better.
    Suicide is never the answer and the thing is, people are making it look glamorised which is making more people want to lie about such things and possibly even start cutting themselves
    Its just so wrong, yes its saddening to see it get that far, but I coped with it, why can't anyone else?

    sorry if you find this rude or it doesn't make sense I'm ranting *+*
    So because you coped with it that means that everyone else can?

    I do agree tat it's stupid that something so stupid caused her to commit suicide but at the end of the day people have limits, and everyone's limits are different.
    At the time that the abuse started she was only like 14, she clearly didn't want to tell anyone because she was scared she'd get into trouble for lifting up her top for strangers online, I would be petrified if i did that. Yes, she shouldn't have done it but she obviously wasnt all that happy in herself and lied the attention that she got from the people online.
    It's ignorant to say that itd simply just stop because she told someone. she must have said something to her parents in order for them to move her schools and they would have found out when the police went to her door, clearly nothing stopped.

    I dont agree with the picture at the end, I think that was too far, but from what im guessing she knew when she made the video she was going to try suicide again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Coco View Post
    So because you coped with it that means that everyone else can?

    I do agree tat it's stupid that something so stupid caused her to commit suicide but at the end of the day people have limits, and everyone's limits are different.
    At the time that the abuse started she was only like 14, she clearly didn't want to tell anyone because she was scared she'd get into trouble for lifting up her top for strangers online, I would be petrified if i did that. Yes, she shouldn't have done it but she obviously wasnt all that happy in herself and lied the attention that she got from the people online.
    It's ignorant to say that itd simply just stop because she told someone. she must have said something to her parents in order for them to move her schools and they would have found out when the police went to her door, clearly nothing stopped.

    I dont agree with the picture at the end, I think that was too far, but from what im guessing she knew when she made the video she was going to try suicide again.

    If you read correctly I ended with a question not a statement therefore implying that no not everyone might be not cope be able to cope but it seems that most people end up ending there lives unnecessarily.

    Ignorant? Its some what true. If she had told her parents why didn't they do anything? If the police came to her door why didn't they do anything? If the teachers saw why did they bone idly walk by while she was getting hurt why didn't they try to help her? Which leads me to believe that she is stretching the truth, hence trying to grab peoples attention. Yes you might say 'she wouldn't have committed suicide if you wanted attention' no you wouldn't but just think maybe she couldn't handle the attention she was getting anymore and killed herself.
    If you actually read what she was saying you'd realise there might be more to it than just what she had written on the cards, or its just me over analysing.

    I'll leave you with the definition of ignorance, so maybe next time you'll realise you've might not have chosen the right word.

    Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abi View Post
    If you read correctly I ended with a question not a statement therefore implying that no not everyone might be not cope be able to cope but it seems that most people end up ending there lives unnecessarily.

    Ignorant? Its some what true. If she had told her parents why didn't they do anything? If the police came to her door why didn't they do anything? If the teachers saw why did bone idly walked by why didn't they try to help her? Which leads me to believe that she is stretching the truth, hence trying to grab peoples attention. Yes you might say 'she wouldn't have committed suicide if you wanted attention' no you wouldn't but just think maybe she couldn't handle the attention she was getting anymore and killed herself.
    If you actually read what she was saying you'd realise there might be more to it than just what she is saying, or its just me over analysing.

    I'll leave you with the definition of ignorance, so maybe next time you'll realise you've might not have chosen the right word.

    Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

    And why would it have stopped because she told someone? Thousands of people get bullied and it doesn't stop because they;ve told someone. You're lucky that yours did stop. its not the same for everyone. Again, you've tried to say that all humans are the same.
    She tried to stop it, she moved away TWICE. Yes, she could have deleted facebook but going to a new school you want to get to know your peers and a popular way of doing that i through facebook. This guy made a group about her!!!!!
    you ended with a rhetorical question which gave the impression that just because you'd gotten through whatever happened to you everyone else should be able to cope with whatever happens to them. It doesn't work that way. You may have been stronger than her or the bullying not as intense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Coco View Post
    And why would it have stopped because she told someone? Thousands of people get bullied and it doesn't stop because they;ve told someone. You're lucky that yours did stop. its not the same for everyone. Again, you've tried to say that all humans are the same.
    She tried to stop it, she moved away TWICE. Yes, she could have deleted facebook but going to a new school you want to get to know your peers and a popular way of doing that i through facebook. This guy made a group about her!!!!!
    you ended with a rhetorical question which gave the impression that just because you'd gotten through whatever happened to you everyone else should be able to cope with whatever happens to them. It doesn't work that way. You may have been stronger than her or the bullying not as intense.
    I'm not saying it would absolutely stop if she told someone! I was saying if her parents, the police and teachers saw what was going on, doesn't that make you think that something she saying is bending the truth? Cause it certainly does too me. A guy made have made a group about her, how do you solve that? You report it. A statement is a sign of absolution of what I was saying, but I didn't end with a statement I ended with a question didn't I? Meaning that I'm not saying that everyone can cope just wondering why people can't as well as another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abi View Post
    I'm not saying it would absolutely stop if she told someone! I was saying if her parents, the police and teachers saw what was going on, doesn't that make you think that something she saying is bending the truth? Cause it certainly does too me. A guy made have made a group about her, how do you solve that? You report it. A statement is a sign of absolution of what I was saying, but I didn't end with a statement I ended with a question didn't I? Meaning that I'm not saying that everyone can cope just wondering why people can't as well as another.
    In the case of teachers, some will literally do nothing. I had an friend (ex-friend now tbh) at school who was constantly bullied on the bus (where teachers sometimes went on to regulate it and whatnot) and even had her hair set on fire - she told the school about the hair incident and all they did was exclude the person who did it for 2 days. Teachers saw that I was often teased and got verbally abused by people because of a rumour I was gay and did nothing about it, I told some teachers directly about it and that it was an issue; still did nothing about it. May be different for different people, but from my experience and what i've head from others, the majority of teachers don't help greatly.

    Sometimes parents think teens are over-exaggerating in regards to depression/suicidal thoughts (even after they attempt it multiple times tbh). Can't say much about police.
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