My story: Struggling, bullying, suicide, self harm

[DPS]

I was looking on facebook and i saw a page saying R.I.P Amanda Todd so i searched her name and found out she killed herself very recently due to being bullied on the internet after she got her boobs out for people on mac, and then someone tryed to blackmail her.

So im going to share this video, I know people that blackmail girls into doing this stuff and honestly i find it really sick, even more when a young girl only 15 years old kills herself.

http://youtu.be/vOHXGNx-E7E

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[lawrawrrr]

It's a complete overreaction!! Watched the video, just about.... (god I hate them) but yeah. She flashed, it was her choice to do so, and she should have known the possible consequences. Yeah it doesn't happen often to this extent but it's still a POSSIBLITY...

Videos like this glamorize the idea of suicide. Thanks to tumblr, twitter and facebook 'crazes', suicide is becoming the 'cool' thing to do and quite frankly, I find it disgusting. You don't need to hurt yourself just to get a few 'fans' because they will feel sorry for you - it's attention seeking. If you're SERIOUSLY sad or suicidal you don't tell anyone. You just get on with it, and usually hide it. Maybe talk about it later in life, but never make a huge deal out of the fact. Proves my point with the photo at the end - not necessary to post a picture, people know what self harm is. It's like you're setting up a scene, I don't understand why it's so glamorous.

Some of the things she wrote about - none of her friends liking her because SUDDENLY this guy turned up with a topless photo... well I highly doubt that's the truth. With a bit of explaining, I'm sure they'd be fine - even if not, they're hardly good friends if they'll ditch you because of something that happened 2 years ago. They probably ditched her because of the drug/alcohol problems (which I don't blame on her at all, it's an 'easy' way to escape that many many people turn to) and her mental conditions. With the right help she could have got over it the right way. You're GOING to be judged if you get naked on cam, you just need to admit it happened. If the guy was harbouring these photos she should have reported him to the police. Don't know how old he was but it's still technically child pornography so he'd have some sort of consequences coming to him. She never pressed charges on the people who beat her up and were posting those horrible messages - which would have made it easier on her.

It's like she puts a MASSIVE deal on the fact she doesn't have any friends, is it that big a deal? Yeah I felt rubbish when I lost my friends. The crush thing she talks about at 4:30 is ridiculous - everyone is played around by other people, and the way she says 'HE hooked up with ME' is stupid - she didn't have to go round, she didn't have to hook up with him at all. The next scene depicts a pretty much average bullying scenario so it's hardly this massive deal.

Also remember she wrote these. Could be biased, could even be lies. I'm not accusing, I'm just saying I know someone who did a video like this and most of it was exaggerated. The whole thing about the teachers walking past is beyond me - no way teachers do that. They are in loco parentis, which means it's illegal for them to see this and ignore it.

Fair enough she had anxiety and depression issues, if the anti-depressants weren't working and also the counselling, then she needed to say something, not ignore it.

RIP and all, but she could have done so much more about it, to make it better for herself and to combat the issues. Suicide is never the answer.

[Aiden]

Like Laura said she brought it on her self.. I'm not trying to be mean or heartless but if she didnt do that then this would of never happened. I know everyone makes mistakes and RIP but hopefully others will learn from her story.

RIP Anyway. :/

[dbgtz]

Watched it all, do not sympathise in the slightest. Everything which happened was of her own doing, yet she makes it sounds like she was punished by some god. Obviously if she hadn't flashed, nothing would have happened but there's also the fact she slept with some girls boyfriend which of course she would be pissed about, the fact she kept using social networking sites despite constantly being tracked and the fact she never appeared to actually stand up for herself and really, if she had just laughed at the situation and shown no frustration, people would just stop caring.

To be quite honest aswell, not everyone would have just had an instant hate for her over 3 or 4 schools. I therefore believe she was fairly stuck up and judgemental herself, only ever really wanting to be friends with the people who appear to have a higher social status who then would show some amount of intolerance for those who are not part of it. So ultimately, before people knew about what happened she could have easily been the one making people feel how **** she felt (and probably worse).

Expanding further, the video she posted on this issue doesn't really help anybody and seems like a bit of attention seeking. Infact all it would have done (assuming all she said was true) was darken her image further so why would she post it? You could argue it raises awareness, but for what? All she focused on was a few crappy events in her life yet probably never thought about those in far worse situations. I mean, all she did was flash her private areas which every other girl in existence has.

To be frank, this whole situation angers me.

[buttons]

It's a complete overreaction!! Watched the video, just about.... (god I hate them) but yeah. She flashed, it was her choice to do so, and she should have known the possible consequences. Yeah it doesn't happen often to this extent but it's still a POSSIBLITY...

Videos like this glamorize the idea of suicide. Thanks to tumblr, twitter and facebook 'crazes', suicide is becoming the 'cool' thing to do and quite frankly, I find it disgusting. You don't need to hurt yourself just to get a few 'fans' because they will feel sorry for you - it's attention seeking. If you're SERIOUSLY sad or suicidal you don't tell anyone. You just get on with it, and usually hide it. Maybe talk about it later in life, but never make a huge deal out of the fact. Proves my point with the photo at the end - not necessary to post a picture, people know what self harm is. It's like you're setting up a scene, I don't understand why it's so glamorous.

Some of the things she wrote about - none of her friends liking her because SUDDENLY this guy turned up with a topless photo... well I highly doubt that's the truth. With a bit of explaining, I'm sure they'd be fine - even if not, they're hardly good friends if they'll ditch you because of something that happened 2 years ago. They probably ditched her because of the drug/alcohol problems (which I don't blame on her at all, it's an 'easy' way to escape that many many people turn to) and her mental conditions. With the right help she could have got over it the right way. You're GOING to be judged if you get naked on cam, you just need to admit it happened. If the guy was harbouring these photos she should have reported him to the police. Don't know how old he was but it's still technically child pornography so he'd have some sort of consequences coming to him. She never pressed charges on the people who beat her up and were posting those horrible messages - which would have made it easier on her.

It's like she puts a MASSIVE deal on the fact she doesn't have any friends, is it that big a deal? Yeah I felt rubbish when I lost my friends. The crush thing she talks about at 4:30 is ridiculous - everyone is played around by other people, and the way she says 'HE hooked up with ME' is stupid - she didn't have to go round, she didn't have to hook up with him at all. The next scene depicts a pretty much average bullying scenario so it's hardly this massive deal.

Also remember she wrote these. Could be biased, could even be lies. I'm not accusing, I'm just saying I know someone who did a video like this and most of it was exaggerated. The whole thing about the teachers walking past is beyond me - no way teachers do that. They are in loco parentis, which means it's illegal for them to see this and ignore it.

Fair enough she had anxiety and depression issues, if the anti-depressants weren't working and also the counselling, then she needed to say something, not ignore it.

RIP and all, but she could have done so much more about it, to make it better for herself and to combat the issues. Suicide is never the answer.

oh my god shut up, your post makes me so angry lol.
there is no such thing as an OVERREACTION to a death of an innocent PERSON. a human. telling people you're suicidal, self-harming etc can be attention seeking in some cases but in other cases it's a relief! to know you're not alone, to read other people's experiences and help each other through it is better than nothing. i love tumblr for that, i use it to vent. i write about my problems, i write about self-harming but never do i post pictures of it etc but some people do and that's fine if it helps them. better to get relief from posting about it than to pick up a blade and slit your wrists. if i remember correctly, you posted a picture of yourself CRYING on tumblr - so i'd say that's attention seeking and hypocritical too.

why should someone who is suicidal keep it to themselves when all they want is to know they're not alone and have just one person know about it and be there for them? i've had depression 4 years been suicidal for almost 3 and i never told anyone, it would be a shock to most people who know me but now i have somewhere to post about it (ie tumblr and i have here) ... feels so good. don't need people with your sorta attitude to make them feel worthless or that their problems should be kept hidden when it's quite the opposite.

she posted the video weeks before she committed suicide, she could have been helped if just one person said "i'll be your friend". it was preventable, not because she could make her ~life~ better but because other people could.

losing all your friends can do so much to you. made me leave school because of the way i was treated by the last of my friends. showed me not to trust anyone, that everyone leaves you in the end, resulting in more depression. so it's not like "oh well my friends obviously suck so i'll just get over it". no quite the opposite, feel like you're the worthless one.

just cause she got naked (which she's ******* entitled to) doesn't mean you tell the police and it's all over. she had to move school, was bullied online and offline. kinda hard to press charges against people who you have to see every day, the consequences of doing that will be worse.

YES IT'S A BIG DEAL. WE NEED FRIENDS. WE NEED TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT ALONE. WHETHER THAT'S IRL OR THROUGH PEOPLE ON TUMBLR WHO SHARE SIMILAR EXPERIENCES.

the person you know exaggerating their video, how do you know what goes on in THEIR mind? you only ever see the observable parts of a person, like you see of this girl. it's hardly exaggerated if she tried to commit suicide more than once and left school. hardly exaggerated if she finally decides to end her life rofl.

also very hard once anti-depressants and therapy doesn't work because you feel like nothin ever well and suicide IS the answer. you don't think it is? then you quite clearly have no idea.

i don't condone suicide, i don't like these type of videos. but she had a right to express herself, a right to look for help & if one person reached out, she might have been okay. make it better for herself... oh please. people could say that about your own threads.

RIP to her. i don't see it as attention cause once you're dead and gone you can't exactly experience the attention and you'll never understand that unless you've been in that situation T_T

gonna regret this

[Samantha]

I can relate to her a bit, the picture bit but in no way did it make me feel bad enough to selfharm or commit suicide, that's a cowards way out and you need to embrace the fact you did it, yeah it was stupid but you suffer the consequences, you don't make a YouTube video or act like the whole world's against you. This happened to me when I was in year 10... I got reminded of it throughout the two years I had left at High School and year 13 at College, I just let it slide, that's what she could and should have done. No point regretting, no point saying never again because it doesn't matter. I don't sympathise with the selfharm or suicide, like I said it's a cowards way - they wouldn't have instantly hated her at other schools, she was the new girl nothing more.

[FlyingJesus]

It's a complete overreaction!! Watched the video, just about.... (god I hate them) but yeah. She flashed, it was her choice to do so, and she should have known the possible consequences. Yeah it doesn't happen often to this extent but it's still a POSSIBLITY...

Are you suggesting that it's right to bully people who do things you disagree with?

Videos like this glamorize the idea of suicide.

No they highlight the fact that when people go off on their "omf what a **** she deserves all she gets" rampages there is actually a person suffering - and for doing something that never hurt anyone

Thanks to tumblr, twitter and facebook 'crazes', suicide is becoming the 'cool' thing to do and quite frankly, I find it disgusting. You don't need to hurt yourself just to get a few 'fans' because they will feel sorry for you - it's attention seeking. If you're SERIOUSLY sad or suicidal you don't tell anyone. You just get on with it, and usually hide it. Maybe talk about it later in life, but never make a huge deal out of the fact. Proves my point with the photo at the end - not necessary to post a picture, people know what self harm is. It's like you're setting up a scene, I don't understand why it's so glamorous.

The photo was unnecessary but you CAN NOT and SHOULD NOT tell people how to deal with their depression. I think it's utterly sickening that you're telling the world that you think depressed people should lock it up and not tell anyone when that's the most dangerous way to deal with those issues, and saying that if you tell people then it's not real is just ridiculous. Also, have you ever considered that if people are seeking attention it may well be that they actually need attention? Attitudes like yours are the very reason that many people do choose not to tell anyone about their troubles, which makes the problems boil up inside and explode, often violently.

Some of the things she wrote about - none of her friends liking her because SUDDENLY this guy turned up with a topless photo... well I highly doubt that's the truth. With a bit of explaining, I'm sure they'd be fine - even if not, they're hardly good friends if they'll ditch you because of something that happened 2 years ago.

1) Not your issue, you don't know the story, so you can't just cry "lies!"
2) Real friends or not, that sort of thing upsets people. Possibly even more so if you have to find out that your friends aren't faithful through a trauma

They probably ditched her because of the drug/alcohol problems (which I don't blame on her at all, it's an 'easy' way to escape that many many people turn to) and her mental conditions. With the right help she could have got over it the right way.

But according to you, you shouldn't tell anyone if you're depressed, so you can't get help ever or you're just faking it attention, right?

You're GOING to be judged if you get naked on cam, you just need to admit it happened. If the guy was harbouring these photos she should have reported him to the police. Don't know how old he was but it's still technically child pornography so he'd have some sort of consequences coming to him. She never pressed charges on the people who beat her up and were posting those horrible messages - which would have made it easier on her.

Easier said than done, especially when you're made to feel like everything's your fault and that you're not worth helping.

It's like she puts a MASSIVE deal on the fact she doesn't have any friends, is it that big a deal? Yeah I felt rubbish when I lost my friends. The crush thing she talks about at 4:30 is ridiculous - everyone is played around by other people, and the way she says 'HE hooked up with ME' is stupid - she didn't have to go round, she didn't have to hook up with him at all. The next scene depicts a pretty much average bullying scenario so it's hardly this massive deal.

You're actually trying to tell us that bullying and being alone through the bullying isn't a big deal. Oh wow. Congrats to you on being so totally robotic that it didn't bother you especially when your friends turned on you, but your experiences are not the be all and end all of the human condition.

Also remember she wrote these. Could be biased, could even be lies. I'm not accusing, I'm just saying I know someone who did a video like this and most of it was exaggerated. The whole thing about the teachers walking past is beyond me - no way teachers do that. They are in loco parentis, which means it's illegal for them to see this and ignore it.

Again, your personal experience is not the whole of reality. Ignorant teaching staff do exist in a great many places, I don't know what paradise you live in where everyone plays their role perfectly but the real world does not work like that. If you want to talk personal experiences only, I've seen plenty of obvious bullying and abuse being passed over by teachers and other authority figures because it's simply not something they want to deal with sometimes. It does happen. You are wrong.

Fair enough she had anxiety and depression issues, if the anti-depressants weren't working and also the counselling, then she needed to say something, not ignore it.

You really need to make your mind up whether people are allowed to talk about their issues or not, because you keep zig-zagging and it just seems like you don't understand a single thing you're saying.

RIP and all, but she could have done so much more about it, to make it better for herself and to combat the issues. Suicide is never the answer.

Unfortunately these things can quite easily make the victim feel like there really is no option left for them other than suicide, and the traumas she faced along with underlying anxiety and depression affect one's mind and cloud over reasonable judgement on matters of the self. You remind me of the people who tell sufferers of depression to "just smile!" or "cheer up, it could be worse!" as though it's not a real condition with real consequences.

[BreakfastBacon]

She shouldn't of flashed in first place kinda confused why she did

[Samantha]

I can relate to her a bit, the picture bit but in no way did it make me feel bad enough to selfharm or commit suicide, that's a cowards way out and you need to embrace the fact you did it, yeah it was stupid but you suffer the consequences, you don't make a YouTube video or act like the whole world's against you. This happened to me when I was in year 10... I got reminded of it throughout the two years I had left at High School and year 13 at College, I just let it slide, that's what she could and should have done. No point regretting, no point saying never again because it doesn't matter. I don't sympathise with the selfharm or suicide, like I said it's a cowards way - they wouldn't have instantly hated her at other schools, she was the new girl nothing more.

I realised I made this sound sort of harsh, I don't think she should have taken her life and yeah I don't exactly sympathise with it but I can only go off my experience of how it made me feel when something similar happened; people are different and you can't know what they're thinking.
@EpicCombo; she did it, it could have been a random thing she did, a spur of the moment thing but she did do it - she wouldn't do it again but might not have known it would escalate into something else or that it would haunt her for the rest of her life. It's up to the person themselves if they want to go on Webcam or not, whether they want to talk to strangers etc. it's her life... you said she shouldn't have done it to begin with, why not? She thought the people were complimenting her, she might not have known what would happen and she might have trusted a lot more then!

[lawrawrrr]

Not once did I say this is how everyone should feel. I'm FED UP of 'suicidal' girls who do it purely for the attention - seen it up close, first hand, farrrr too much and it's really annoying and upsetting to me.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion.