Transgender woman wants to fight in women's MMA

[Adam]

Everything can be discrimination if you really want it to be...

If I get a tail transplant then I am a dog, according to your analogies.

In the real world, I'm a man with a tail. Just like 'she' is a man without a tail.

[Kardan]

Don't know if this has been said, but I feel like contributing:

In the eyes of the law, if your birth certificate says man, you are a man. Even if you have a full sex change. If you were a man but now a woman, you can not marry a man because that's gay marriage. As much as I disagree with that < how is this any different? Your birth certificate says a man.

I think it'd be unfair.

Also, turns out that you can change the sex on your birth certificate, so people that do get their gender reassigned actually have their birth certificate saying the gender they want it too...

https://www.gov.uk/correct-birth-reg...ns-can-be-made

[FlyingJesus]

BTW: giving out negative reputation in a debate thread? Way to go. I have my opinions like you have yours. That's why it's a debate. Just because you don't agree doesn't make that opinion wrong.

Stating falsities is not the same as having a difference in opinion, and if you can't understand that then you have no place whatsoever being in a debate

As for the legs example, they should have legs but don't because of a tragic accident. The should being the important point. Just as somebody born as the sex classification of a male should have a penis but in some cases doesn't - doesn't mean they aren't still a male.

A female SHOULD have increased breast tissue and a vagina, so going by your own argument someone who fully identifies as female but has a male body is merely a victim of a "tragic accident". If you want to refute this by talking about how one is born, then consider that a human being SHOULD have fully functioning organs and features, and that if you want to carry on with your ridiculously flawed argument then one assumes that you consider anyone with a birth defect to be a non-human

the sex you are (and whether you can take part in male or female competitions) depends on what your DNA/bone structure say

Structural generalities are not 100% natural law, and there are a great many thousand women with Y chromosomes and men with XX. You stated that you don't know enough about intersex people to comment on them, but considering they're 1% of the world's population that's a hell of a lot of people you're erasing - certainly worth looking into if this is the sort of discussion you want to be involved in

If I get a tail transplant then I am a dog, according to your analogies.

In the real world, I'm a man with a tail. Just like 'she' is a man without a tail.

*REMOVED* The difference between male and female is nothing like the difference between human and dog - and humans do have tails

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please respect other forum members!

[Adam]

*REMOVED* The difference between male and female is nothing like the difference between human and dog - and humans do have tails

I just wrote a long reply but it's not even worth it. Launching a personal attack on my intellect has no place in debates or in life. It's amazing how ludicrously egotistical you are.

[FlyingJesus]

Stating "opinions" without any basis has no place in debates or life. Also I don't deny that I'm egotistical but that's got nothing to do with my post since nothing I've said is about me being better than anyone, so nice one telling me off for a personal comment and then going right on to do the very same thing

[Adam]

Stating "opinions" without any basis has no place in debates or life. Also I don't deny that I'm egotistical but that's got nothing to do with my post since nothing I've said is about me being better than anyone, so nice one telling me off for a personal comment and then going right on to do the very same thing

Egotistical isn't an attack, you are and you've proved it. Attacking my intelligence is ridiculous. What? Because my opinion is different from yours it has no basis? Superb.

[FlyingJesus]

It has no basis because you're failing time and time again to provide one other than "because". All that you've done is repeat yourself and be obnoxiously transphobic - which certainly is an attack whether you mean it to be or not

[Ardemax]

I would agree with actual UK law: if you're born a man, you are forever a man, legally speaking.

[FlyingJesus]

I would agree with actual UK law: if you're born a man, you are forever a man, legally speaking.

Oh right

[sex]

i didn't realize so many young people in this day and age where still so ******* idiotic when it comes to this stuff lol

she's not a man, she identifies as a women and wants to be seen as that so that's what she should be seen as