Wars of Scottish Independence!

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tbh it's Cameron's fault we're divided, wasn't it him who said to just go for or against independence (cause he believed it'd be a no) whereas salmond wanted devo max as an option on the ballot. I would have picked devo max over independence but now it's just a huuuuuuuge divide and staying together vs the extreme

[Kardan]

tbh it's Cameron's fault we're divided, wasn't it him who said to just go for or against independence (cause he believed it'd be a no) whereas salmond wanted devo max as an option on the ballot. I would have picked devo max over independence but now it's just a huuuuuuuge divide and staying together vs the extreme

So you're saying nobody in Scotland wanted independence 5 years ago? I mean, I don't like Cameron either, but surely there was still some issues before he came into power

I also think this whole situation is just crapping on the rest of the UK. If Scotland vote 'No', they'll (try to anyway) get more powers, and fair enough if they do. But that just screws up Wales and Northern Ireland, and they've been plodding along not making a fuss. Also this whole thing is making England look quite bad, when in reality most parts of England feel just as independent from London/Westminster as Scotland does.

I mean, I'm not even Scottish and this referendum has nothing to do with me, but it's really bothering me now - it's literally all that is on the news. I'm glad you scots will be even more happier come Friday, no matter the outcome.

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I'm saying it's Cameron's fault because he's only allowing us 2 options on the referendum, yes vs no instead of the yes, no, devo max that salmond wanted

[Kardan]

Ah, I see - my bad.

[The Don]

Can't wait for the no vote to win and for this to all settle down.

[Michael]

I liked Gordon Brown's speech for the no campaign, never really been a fan of him but this is very strong.

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tbh it's Cameron's fault we're divided, wasn't it him who said to just go for or against independence (cause he believed it'd be a no) whereas salmond wanted devo max as an option on the ballot. I would have picked devo max over independence but now it's just a huuuuuuuge divide and staying together vs the extreme

Quite frankly the promise of yet more powers to Scotland is becoming unacceptable to even a Unionist like myself. There's two things we can be sure of tomorrow no matter what the result: the referendum has buggered up the British constitution and English nationalism is on the rise - which i've long said is the biggest threat to the Union longer term. The notion that Scotland can be given more powers whilst Scottish MPs continue to vote on English-only legislation as well as the Barnett formula continuing is becoming unacceptable even to me.

It's high time the rest of Britain, especially England, had a veto on whether we want our constitution to change even more so to please 5m out of 70m people. Cameron was 100% right to make it an in/out question, but he's 100% wrong to offer the Holyrood mickey mouse parliament anymore powers.

If Scotland vote 'No', they'll (try to anyway) get more powers, and fair enough if they do. But that just screws up Wales and Northern Ireland, and they've been plodding along not making a fuss. Also this whole thing is making England look quite bad, when in reality most parts of England feel just as independent from London/Westminster as Scotland does.

If you are happy to give Scotland more powers, would you like to tell me how you would address the English question of 50 or so Labour MPs from Scotland voting on English-only matters? Surely you would even admit this, with more powers to Holyrood, cannot continue?

And if not, what is the answer? Because this is the huge constitutional question.

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Lovely.

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ah 2am, that sucks, cba waiting up. i tend to just see the first few results then wait for the next day but doesn't look like that's going to happen. I suppose theyve got to factor in the huge turnout.
how do they count anyway, do they just have a pile then put it into yes or no piles cos that'd be quicker compared to counting 6-7 candidates.

[dbgtz]

Lovely.

assuming that's not a troll, responses like that would have happened regardless of which way he voted. I'm not defending them by any means, people like that are just ********s, just don't pretend like the yes campaign is full of love hearts and cotton candy.