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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroka View Post
    I'm sure you do Josh, and I'm not questioning the amount of work the AGMs do at all. I understand what you're saying, however the forum has just outgrown the website. It's not a department, it's an entity in itself. Plus, MAD is looking after the sites and I agree with that. However, he's not just looking after the sites, which is the problem.
    Just because one department has grown larger than the rest doesn't mean that it can't run under the Habbox General Management. It can still be run by the Forum Manager and the Assistant Forum Manager, but due to the sheer size of it, it means that ---MAD--- will pay alot of attention to it to make sure it's running well. The other sites are being run by department managers, whilst being watched over by the GM, and in my case, an AGM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroka View Post
    AGM = Directors

    MAD: Management in all below
    Joshuar: HabboxWorld
    nvrspk4: HxHD
    sierk: Habbox
    Adzeh: HabboxLive (I think still?)

    You get the idea? I don't think Directors would be a suitable word however.
    A Board of Directors can be made up of Managers, the board is called a directors board but the people who make it up are called managers, whoa re picked out from departments and help choose their ideas. That's really what the AGMs are, a manager version of a Board of Directors.

    Quote Originally Posted by joshuar View Post
    Just because one department has grown larger than the rest doesn't mean that it can't run under the Habbox General Management. It can still be run by the Forum Manager and the Assistant Forum Manager, but due to the sheer size of it, it means that ---MAD--- will pay alot of attention to it to make sure it's running well. The other sites are being run by department managers, whilst being watched over by the GM, and in my case, an AGM.
    Then give the forum its own team. At the moment the Forum Manager may aswell be a Habbox Forum definition of an AGM, rather than a manager.

    The whole staff roles needs to be looked at, it makes very little sense. You should be International Manager, rather than the big label AGM unless you look after the GM more than you job, which you shouldn't be because then your department would fail miserably. An AGMs mian concern is with the GM, while the AGMs main concerns on Habbox should be with their departments/jobs/area. An AGM is literally someone you talk to when the GM is not available, and who is the GM while he is away.
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    Senior Management would be better described, instead of AGM.

    Senior Management could easily use 'International Manager' and still stay in context of what the group is. General Manager could be better suited as Director, and the rest can be as they are. I find that alot more simpler to understand, and I'm sure others will (if they bother to read...). Josh, do you know anything of the main roles each AGM has? Like, the unique roles.

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    The General Manager oversee's the running of all departments within Habbox which are being taken care of by department managers. The Forum Manager, while possessing more powers and responsibilities on the forum than a regular department manager, is still a department manager nonetheless.

    The only exception to the above is HabboxWorld, which requires Joshuar to take a more active role than MAD in overseeing this area of Habbox. The General Manager is basically mainly focused on the UK side of Habbox, since it is the side that requires the most attention due to it being larger than the international side.

    The AGM's assist the General Manager in different areas for the site and running of Habbox. Nvrspk deals with staff issues such as arguments, infractions, warnings, forum permissions and all other staff related incidents. Joshuar obviously is responsible for Habbox World and is our only department specific AGM. I am responsible for highlighting problem areas within Habbox departments and giving advice to the managers on how to improve these areas and ensuring that things run smoothly, with outdated policies being removed when necessary.

    The staff tree of theoretical power within Habbox is:

    sierk
    ---MAD---
    Joshuar, nvrpsk4, myself
    Department managers (including forum manager)
    Assistant department managers
    Senior department staff (super moderators, senior DJs, events organisers etc...)
    Department staff.

    The tree of actual physical power within Habbox is quite different though:

    sierk
    ---MAD---
    nvrspk4 Joshuar
    (Assistant) Forum manager, Myself
    Department managers, super moderators
    Senior department staff, Forum moderators
    Department staff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroka View Post
    Senior Management would be better described, instead of AGM.

    Senior Management could easily use 'International Manager' and still stay in context of what the group is. General Manager could be better suited as Director, and the rest can be as they are. I find that alot more simpler to understand, and I'm sure others will (if they bother to read...). Josh, do you know anything of the main roles each AGM has? Like, the unique roles.
    Urrrgh, damn you for finding a better name for them!

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    Also Pyroka, details of the staff roles for AGMS can be found on the Hx management page:

    https://habbox.com/site//content/view/77/91/
    Resigned from Habbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adzeh View Post
    The General Manager oversee's the running of all departments within Habbox which are being taken care of by department managers. The Forum Manager, while possessing more powers and responsibilities on the forum than a regular department manager, is still a department manager nonetheless.

    The only exception to the above is HabboxWorld, which requires Joshuar to take a more active role than MAD in overseeing this area of Habbox. The General Manager is basically mainly focused on the UK side of Habbox, since it is the side that requires the most attention due to it being larger than the international side.

    The AGM's assist the General Manager in different areas for the site and running of Habbox. Nvrspk deals with staff issues such as arguments, infractions, warnings, forum permissions and all other staff related incidents. Joshuar obviously is responsible for Habbox World and is our only department specific AGM. I am responsible for highlighting problem areas within Habbox departments and giving advice to the managers on how to improve these areas and ensuring that things run smoothly, with outdated policies being removed when necessary.

    The staff tree of theoretical power within Habbox is:

    sierk
    ---MAD---
    Joshuar, nvrpsk4, myself
    Department managers (including forum manager)
    Assistant department managers
    Senior department staff (super moderators, senior DJs, events organisers etc...)
    Department staff.

    The tree of actual physical power within Habbox is quite different though:

    sierk
    ---MAD---
    nvrspk4 Joshuar
    (Assistant) Forum manager, Myself
    Department managers, super moderators
    Senior department staff, Forum moderators
    Department staff
    Josh - International Manager
    Nvrspk4 - Staff Relations Manager
    Adzeh - Advisory Manager
    ---MAD--- - General Manager
    Elkaa - Communication Manager (Forum Manager, basically)

    Now, doesn't that make just that little bit more sense? I'm still shocked on how the FM is below the AGMs. If Senior Management were to go through, and that was in effect, I'd find it so much more easier to understand. The physical and theoretical trees should both be the same... We just hit the same issue again.

    EDIT: Thanks for the link Adzeh, I'll check it through now and see if I need to revise those names I just stated.


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    Urrrgh, damn you for finding a better name for them!
    .. And making you speechless...

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    Department Managers who run a Habbox site
    Doesn't make sense. They're a special breed of managers, can't think what you'll call it Senior Managers does make alot more sense than AGM looking at that page.
    Last edited by GommeInc; 22-02-2008 at 05:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Doesn't make sense. They're a special breed of managers, can't think what you'll call it Senior Managers does make alot more sense than AGM looking at that page.
    I was going to mention that, looking at the website... Senior Management would class all these into the one catagory. I'm just not sure where that'd leave ,Jess, & opensourcehost (seeing as yoshi resigned).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adzeh View Post
    Also Pyroka, details of the staff roles for AGMS can be found on the Hx management page:

    https://habbox.com/site//content/view/77/91/
    Thats very useful

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