Who will you be voting this summer?

[Seatherny]

Yes, i'll just look in my little 'Factbook on University Students and their relationship with drink' - come on now lets be sensible here, we all know younger people are mostly always skint and just because we have opposing political views doesnt mean you have to disagree with it. The fact people cant accept it when they know it to be true just because you/they dont agree with my politically shows how desperate people are to disagree. Kids drink, kids waste money because kids have no concept of the value of money. Its not a dig at them, its just common sense as shown by the amount of people who just waste EMA.

"It is not a good time for politics in this country with what the main parties have to offer." - totally agree as they are all the same, hence either don't vote for them or vote another party.

I have said that there are kids who don't drink and who do not waste their money. Why is it when I say something you seem to think I am referring to everyone? - Judgmental because I disagree with you? - it is you who never listens (as shown by the fact you ignore the fact I never said it was all Uni students who waste money and would never say that) so maybe look at yourself before commenting on others.

Younger people are skint as they have part time jobs and most adults have full time jobs. Students get paid less than adults.

I agree with Tash, you are judgmental.

research for this guy means finding certain sites which agree with his opinion then spamming them on here contrary to much conflicting material elsewhere.

Im a uni student and know for an absolute fact students dont waste their money on booze, we budget for nights out but we also have heaps of other stuff to spend our loan on, for example societies, sports, books, train and coach fares home and then on food. Kinda insulted me when I read comments from people who make sweeping generalisations without the slightest form of evidence or experience for that matter.

I full on agree.

I'm a kid, so whats your point?

I support the proportional representation part and I hope if theres a hung parliament that the Liberal Democrats force that through.

I have read Liberal Democrats policies, some of which I agree with but mostly disagree with. I used to support them myself.

If thats the figures then maybe i'm wrong. Although is violent crime not on the rise?

You haven't moaned no, and I never said you did. I made the point that if the Tories do raise taxes when they are in office, watch the Labour supporters on here complain about those nasty Tories taxing us to clean up the mess that Labour made.

No bills to the extent an adult has, and as for Uni of course I haven't been so I could be totally proved wrong couldn't I. I made the simple point though that kids (aka me a sixth former, college kids, Uni kids and sometimes older) have little concept of the value of money as proved from what I have seen around me with EMA.

By the way, still waiting for a reply to the BNP thread.

No bills to the extent adult has? That again is common sense. Adults, like I have said, have full time jobs and more responsibilities. Students have part time jobs with Education as their main responsibility.

Again, why are students "skint", let me explain as you clearly fail to understand.

Students work part-time to get their money as many students parents don't give them money. When they work part time, its usually late nights as they have uni during the day. Obviously they cannot work every night for obvious reasons - but as you dont understand obvious, I will explain.
Students wake up, go to uni at 9am or whenever their first lecture/lab is. Uni days can finish as late as 8pm. They have many assignments, presentations, reports, essays to write. Due to this, they cannot work every night if they want to graduate. Therefore, most students work on weekends and some weekday's nights. This earns them not much money as they dont work for long and because students arent paid as much.

Out of this, they have to pay for this:

1. Books - LOTS of them. Minimum £35 each! Not cheap is it? Dont have it? Dont graduate. Simples.
2. Travel: Tram/Train/Bus - expensive in big cities. Can be up to £3.70 a day! e.g. York.
3. Food - To live. They need to eat to give them energy. Its not free.
4. Other uni things: laptop, pens, pencils, papers, printers and many other things. Again - expensive!
5. Nights out - can't expect them to live with other people and sit in their room 24/7. Their room mates will end up hating them. For this reason, finding a place to live in the 2nd year will be hard.
6. TV as most students have a shared one now
7. Internet - again, very expensive for uni students
8. Lets not forget accommodation - very expensive!
9. Clothes!
10. Did you know, joining societies at Student Union isn't free? How would you? You don't go to uni. You have zero clue about uni students. You just watch the news, see a few drunk students and think "oh no, all uni students are skint and waste all their money on alcohol. BLAME LABOUR. UKIP HERE I COME ."

Thats just a small list of things. Try getting a part time job and paying for all of that yourself. Uni students are genius's for being able to cope.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I bet you know nothing about politics, just casue the wave a british flag around the streets and you support england thats why your probally voting for them, give a reasson for voteing dont just say "say no more" like you a ganster beacuse your not, you say you from london, go out on the street and shout you voting BNP watch how you get your head kicked in. and im voting labour, they have been in power for a long time, there not doing a bad job. besides the war in iraq and expensis scandals

Do you know why people vote BNP?

Because they are sick of the three main parties (mostly Labour) who continue to just ignore what the people of this country want. I dont agree with all the BNPs policies but I know for a fact that some policies of the BNP (such as lower taxation, spending our money here, increased military spending, the general jist of controlled immigration) are what people want. People do not want criminals and sponges coming here, people do not want 'gay' Africans coming here - all people ask for is a bit of control.

When you fail to respond to that, it turns people to the extremes. Either they turn totally against immigration (such as the BNP) and vote BNP or dont bother voting at all, because whats the point?

Which Uni are you at? I notice your location is Manchester you see .

And yea, I go out sparingly to try and save money. Undertaker you don't have a clue. There are people like you describe, but not very many. It's not like sixth form/college students with EMA .

Answering the OP, I swing towards the Tories by the way. They're all pretty useless though.

If its different in Uni then i'm wrong, just the impression I get - especially concerning Sixth Form students and College students.

[Inseriousity.]

1. Did you know, joining societies at Student Union isn't free?

aww really? That's a bit harsh, what's the justification? Running costs?

I agree that Undertaker does generalise quite a lot but I suppose that's because that's what society does all the time. It's natural to generalise with absolutely no evidence at all. for example, chav = bad tends to be the general label. so the labels of students waste money on drink is another generalisation that society constantly portrays!

As for voting, I'm not entirely sure. Is there a website where all their policies are all together so I can see, compare + contrast?

[Seatherny]

Do you know why people vote BNP?

Because they are sick of the three main parties (mostly Labour) who continue to just ignore what the people of this country want. I dont agree with all the BNPs policies but I know for a fact that some policies of the BNP (such as lower taxation, spending our money here, increased military spending, the general jist of controlled immigration) are what people want. People do not want criminals and sponges coming here, people do not want 'gay' Africans coming here - all people ask for is a bit of control.

When you fail to respond to that, it turns people to the extremes. Either they turn totally against immigration (such as the BNP) and vote BNP or dont bother voting at all, because whats the point?



If its different in Uni then i'm wrong, just the impression I get - especially concerning Sixth Form students and College students.

Please kindly reply to my post above.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Please kindly reply to my post above.

I would reply but then I thought why should I?; because I have already asked you eleven times to answer this question in this thread; http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...=628508&page=5 - along with the fact you keep saying you'll answer it but still have not.

Anyway the same goes for your post anyway that I replied with in my last post; maybe I was wrong about the University students but as I have said before, some will be like that. Young people (as others have pointed out) under the Uni age who recieve EMA are those I am talking about mainly, so yeah I could be very well wrong on the Uni part as it wont be the vast majority of them although I still believe the vast majority of kids around my age and younger have no concept of the value of money.

[Seatherny]

Doesnt matter if they have no concept of money. They cant vote.

[Madox]

well the point im tryign to put across is that people like that kid who said "BNP - say no more" it's all down to illiteracy and arrogance, he hasnt been tought the concept and he dosent understand anything about politics this is where the BNP use proganda "BRITISH FLAG" to get most of the votes, the kid dosent know anything about the BNP, thats why he had no explianation if he also carried about plotics ulld think he would of replyed by now?, the BNP use proganda just like the nazis did but you could never comapre the BNP on the same scale as the nazis beacuse the nazis accyaully done something, the BNP are still sitting back and just throwing racial words, thats why when people compare BNP to the Nazi's i always say you cant.

[-:Undertaker:-]

well the point im tryign to put across is that people like that kid who said "BNP - say no more" it's all down to illiteracy and arrogance, he hasnt been tought the concept and he dosent understand anything about politics this is where the BNP use proganda "BRITISH FLAG" to get most of the votes, the kid dosent know anything about the BNP, thats why he had no explianation if he also carried about plotics ulld think he would of replyed by now?, the BNP use proganda just like the nazis did but you could never comapre the BNP on the same scale as the nazis beacuse the nazis accyaully done something, the BNP are still sitting back and just throwing racial words, thats why when people compare BNP to the Nazi's i always say you cant.

All political parties use propaganda, its part of politics. I dont think he mentioned anything about their use of a flag anyway, he just said "BNP - say no more" so he could be fully supportive of them for all we know and theres nothing wrong with that, both the Labour Party, Conservative Party and the British National Party all have what some would consider 'racist' elements in their policies. Labour and Conservatives over candidate selection and the BNP in membership (now abolished).

[Sammeth.]

Its the first time I can vote, and my vote will be going to Labour I beleive, unless something dramatic happens between now and May.

[Adamm]

You're all under the blanket of major parties. Vote RESPECT.