Avoiding a ban

[GoldenMerc]

Ye well i relised Elliot returned and i remeber back when i had the account Silvermerc and i avoided the ban and made a new account it straight away got permed, I think this should be braught back into place,When there causioned its ok because they have the choice but permently banned they shouldnt be allowed to re-register realy..
What are your thoughts on this
Ross

[jrh2002]

I don't like the idea that people get permed and then join straight back up and continue where they left off. Of course if this was the case they would not make us aware of who they were so not much we could do about it. I would sooner be able to keep my eye on their new accounts that i am aware of instead of guessing whos who the more I think about it.

[GoldenMerc]

Please do stop them from re-registering.
What you could do is 'cookie ban' them after you banned there account which makes the computer unable to get on its far better than a IP ban

[Soil]

I used to ban their new accounts a lot when I was super mod. At the time the management discussed it and asked me to stop as some users buy VIP on their new account or they need them to keep habboxforum going. Because if they werent allowed to return, hxf will get less and less popular as less people will visit it as they are banned and not allowed to visit.

[fweggy]

If they get permed, they should just be kept away from the forum. Shouldnt be able to join straight back

[jrh2002]

If they get permed, they should just be kept away from the forum. Shouldnt be able to join straight back

Agreed but its not hard to get around a ip ban or a cookie ban so unless they announce who they are then its not possible. I will bring this up for discussion in the staff forums.

[Yoshimitsui]

I dsilike the idea people come back on another account an break the rules, yes. But if they do so they will keep being punished to the point they would recieve an autoban most likely.

What i think is even worse is having two account that a user uses to do this and that and get awy with alot more by having seperate account, this is not allways noticed until after a while.

Thats the thing i would like stopped. But if you recieve a perm ban and you come back with reasonable behaviour i don't see a problem with it, it allows a fresh start and they have been punished for their actions on there other account.

So hopefully the message sinks in.

[Superman]

I'm permed on FlyingJesus but I use this account (which I made for a really lame joke a few months back) because I still want to be part of the forum. I've appealed against my ban with good reason and am waiting for a reply and a decision on it, but either way I'm still going to be here.

I'm not a troublemaker, I don't use multiple accounts to avoid warnings and infractions, so I don't see why people like myself should be inconvenienced for what a minority do after getting banned.

[nvrspk4]

Actually I believe that cautioned members are the ones who avoiding a ban are most applicable to. If a cautioned member creates another account to do stuff with, this is obviously a problem. Why? Because they're not serving their punishment, they're avoiding the ban. That's what the rule applies to more IMO.

You're not exactly "avoiding" a permanant ban, its going to make you lose your account anyway, you just have a new one. Let's assume for arguments sake that we established that we should ban new accounts, as far as morals go. Even then, the idea would be highly impractical, because enforcement would be spotty and uneven at best. There's no way we can keep track of every new member's accounts. And enforcing cookie bans on every perm is highly impractical and really prohibitive.

I think as far as avoiding a perm ban, its a technicality that a mod can pull in to ban a newly created account of a troublemaker. For example, someone just spammed up the forum with nasty images, the SMod can ban their new account for evasion, but also because that Super Moderator has reason to believe that this behavior will continue, and the sole purpose is to continue the spamming. This is done so that we don't have to wait for our members to be subjected to more objectionable images before we can ban them.

So I do think permed people should be allowed back - after all, you're here aren't you

[Catzsy]

Yes I agree with Nvr - people should be let back. They lose their original accounts so thats punishment enough. My sig says what I feel about Flying Jesus ban. If they are really a problem and we had a few in the past as Yoshi says they can go on the autoban list. I don't know a lot about 1P banning except to say that it seems to be easily avoided.