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    okay, so far this year maths hasnt really been a problem, nearly finished c2 now and started to revise over everything i done, and i am looking at this question and just mega failing it, and cba to work it out cause ive tried lots of things.
    anyone got any suggestions to what i should do?


    "find x and y given that x+3y, 4, and 2x+2y are consecutive terms of a geometric series, and x+4y, 4, and x-2y are consecutive terms of an arithmetic series"

    all help will be appreciated
    Mitch, 18. Leeds University in September

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    is this for C2?

    i'm assuming you use

    Un = a + (n -1)d for arithmetic
    Un = ar^(n-1) for geometric

    firstly you need to work out ratio.. then use simultaneous equations. I'll do it now if you want. Can i check im reading question right:

    Arithmetic = x + 4y, 4, x - 2y
    Geometric = x + 3y, 4, 2x + 2y.

    are they the sequences from the beginning with x + 4y, x + 3y as first terms or what?
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    OK.. i've had a crack at it and i've assumed that the sequences you've given are from first term So if it isn't this is wrong!

    x + 3y, 4, 2x + 2y = geometric.. thus ratio = any term divided by previous term so (2x + 2y)/4 = 1/2x + 1/2y = ratio.

    x + 4y, 4, x - 2y = arithmetic... thus common difference = any term minus previous term so (x - 2y) - 4 = x - 2y - 4 = common difference.

    We know that

    U2 = ar^(2-1) = ar.. so U2 = (x + 3y)(1/2x + 1/2y)
    hence (x + 3y)(1/2x + 1/2y) = 4.

    Also;

    U2 = a + (n-1)d = a + d so U2 = (x + 4y) + (x - 2y - 4)
    hence (2x + 2y - 4) = 4
    rearranging gives..
    2x + 2y = 8
    2y = 8 - 2x
    y = 4 - x

    now subbing this into:

    (x + 3y)(1/2x + 1/2y) = 4
    (x + 3(4-x))(1/2x + 1/2(4-x)) = 4
    (x +12 - 3x)(1/2x + 2 - 1/2x) = 4
    (12 - 2x)(2) = 4
    24 - 4x = 4
    4x = 20
    x = 5.. and putting x into y = 4 - x = 4 - 5 = -1
    thus..
    x = 5
    y = -1.

    all of this will be wrong if i've read question wrong haha. and there is probably a quicker way than all the stuff i've done.. my C2's a bit rusty
    Last edited by Soka; 24-01-2009 at 11:32 PM.
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    Okay i'm going to look through that now
    cheers thanks alot really appreciate it!!
    It is C2 yeah,

    i got the common differences and then got really confused haha.
    Mitch, 18. Leeds University in September

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