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Thread: Tories = Bad?

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    Default Tories = Bad?

    I just had a nice phone call to my granddad as me and my Mum really don't know who to vote for tomorrow, we're currently in a Conservative area and it's horrible.

    I'm not really good with politics, but I still believe that I have to live in the UK and I want to live in a good society that the policies are agreeable with my opinions.

    My Granddad claims that the Tories are for people with money, they only care for those with money and they cut fees in education and public places to get more money for themselves. Also, Conservatives landed us in a recession in 1990 with 3 million unemployed he said!

    Just wondering, what are your views on Conservative party, and do you agree with him? I think he's been alive since WW2 so yeh, I think he knows most parties.

    He also said, that he's going to vote Labour tomorrow because they're for working people, and Tories want to cut his pension etc.

    BY THE WAY; Can we please not like have a complete argument, I just want to know some views on Conservatism/Labour. UKIP/BNP people, you can discuss but please don't bring these parties into this discussion, it's only about Conservatives and Labour.

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    The argument that the tories are for the rich and Labour are for the working class is utter rubbish. It was Labour who brought the country to its knees in the 1970's in which the military nearly had to take control as the situtation was so grave.

    Labour are for higher taxes, bigger state and for the unions, true in their time they have done some good, the minimum wage and some other safety nets they enforced after World War II in order to protect citzens from post-war decline.

    I'm afraid though that the argument that the tories are for the rich is utter rubbish, may of been true in the 1880's but not from around 1900 onwards. Margaret Thatcher, a Conservative Prime Minister was the Prime Minister who gave MILLIONS their first chance to buy their own house - if thats not helping those not well off then I don't know what is.


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    Hmmm, do you agree that Gordon Brown stepped in at the wrong time? Seeing as when he stepped in, there was foot and mouth disease etc.

    Also, how come that I live in a Conservative area and yet nothing gets done, like my Mum says, all these parties claim they'll do stuff but it never happens.

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    My Mum said they privatised everything, closed mines and workers were left with nothing. Probably because she knew miners personally and they were ****** basically. I'm not aware on it either though, I look at each parties policies and think most are good but then there's things they don't mention so I don't really know what to think.

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    This about Conservatives?

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    Yes, it is.

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    Yeh, thats what my Mum and Granddad said. 3 million left unemployed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caution View Post
    My Mum said they privatised everything, closed mines and workers were left with nothing. Probably because she knew miners personally and they were ****** basically. I'm not aware on it either though, I look at each parties policies and think most are good but then there's things they don't mention so I don't really know what to think.
    Privatised everything because they were making no money and were being subsidised. Why do you not understand that something that is not making a profit has to be closed for the good of the country, especially when the country was on its knees and had to appeal to the IMF just to stay afloat. The country was on its knees, dead bodies rotting in the morgues because there was no one to bury them, mass strikes across all public sectors, garbage being piled up on the streets and unions constantly calling strikes regardless of whether or not the workers agreed with them.

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    Yeh, thats what my Mum and Granddad said. 3 million left unemployed!
    At the moment the unemployment figure is just under three million and is still rising, I notice how you are also not mentioning the 1970's with the winter of discontent which was the fault of Labour and was one thousand times worse than a recession.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    At the moment the unemployment figure is just under three million and is still rising, I notice how you are also not mentioning the 1970's with the winter of discontent which was the fault of Labour and was one thousand times worse than a recession.
    he clearly said at the beginning of the thread he doesnt really know much about politics, so that's probably why he isnt mentioning it.

    christ, getting a bit too into it me thinks.

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    Yeh, politics can get you intro trouble sometimes. I only know limited knowledge lols.

    Anyway, I'm off to bed and I'm going to vote Labour tomorrow, so will my Mum lol. NIGHT

    Enjoy local council electionss..

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