Which political view is best for Britain?

[Jippz]

Socialism, communism, capitalism etc.

[Jordy]

I'm rather confused by the poll.

Capitalism & Socialism are pretty much economic systems meanwhile Communism & Democracy are forms of government to an extent.

No brainer really, Capitalism is the only system which works, it's not perfect but there's nothing which is anywhere near as good. Democracy obviously works well as it's served the West very well for centuries and Communism is clearly a failure, just look at the Soviet Union.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I agree with Jordy, the options don't really make sense together. Socialism is and always has been a failure and is basically the same as communism, conservatism works socially and conservatism and liberalism work within capitalism. The failures of socialism have cost millions of lives and it is, in my opinion, the worst form of government possible.

[Jippz]

My apologies, i meant to make it multiple choice.

Just vote on whichever one you think is most important in the salvation of the country.

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[-:Undertaker:-]

We mean as in the options you have given, some conflict with others whilst others are left off. There are so many forms/mixes of political systems it can be hard to structure a poll like this, however i'd label myself as Thatcherite, Conservative, Liberal, Capitalist & Populist as my main ones.

Capitalism basically is democracy, capitalism allows people do set up business without government interference, and allows people to have freedom whereas socialism cripples the economy, criminalises the people and basically fails as it has in North Korea, former USSR, PROC under Chairman Mao and the United Kingdom in the 1970s. The idea of socialism sound fantastic to some, however the only thing socialism has done and will always do it spread around poverty, rather than eradicating it.

[Technologic]

They're not views, they're systems.


And none of them work.

[-:Undertaker:-]

They're not views, they're systems.


And none of them work.

Capitalism works, although not perfect it creates a system where you have to work for what you want, and you can set up your own enterprise and employ your own staff, create your own products which in turn creates a diverse economy.

Downturns in capitalism are needed in an economic system, collapse of growth provides a wealth melting pot which, by the time the next boom comes, more and different people are able to take advantage of it. The boom after this recession in another ten or so years will be even greater than the last boom, however after that boom as it reaches its peak it will collapse again, as is needed.

In economics if the incentive/ability to create profit isnt there, it won't work;- hence why socialism doesnt work.

[ifuseekamy]

I don't think you can mix economic systems with political systems, it's too oversimplified. Extreme systems, left/ring/up/down, never work. Countries like China have gone from feudalism to communism and proven that they don't work.

[Jippz]

They're not views, they're systems.


And none of them work.

Good point.
I'd say that socialism and communism are ideal, however in the words of Susan Sarandon "we don't live in that kind of a world".
Anything conservative, thatcherite, or remotely right wing in my opinion is too mediocre, and too much settling for minimum.

Isn't it better to stop a rich man from living in luxury, than to stop a more man from living?

The only way David Cameron is getting to power is by pointing out labour's faults. That's all well and good, but how can he prove he's going to do better?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Good point.
I'd say that socialism and communism are ideal, however in the words of Susan Sarandon "we don't live in that kind of a world".
Anything conservative, thatcherite, or remotely right wing in my opinion is too mediocre, and too much settling for minimum.

Isn't it better to stop a rich man from living in luxury, than to stop a more man from living?

The only way David Cameron is getting to power is by pointing out labour's faults. That's all well and good, but how can he prove he's going to do better?

It is not as simple as the point you made about a man living in luxury and a man living in poverty, hence why they (socialist states) have all failed and will continue to fail. If a man works for his luxury, its his luxary - its simple as that; no government has any right to take away that right from him.

The Conservatives have said what they are going to do, he cant prove anything unless hes in a position on power, however we can look back at history and look at 1979 under Labour and the state of the economy when the Conservatives left office in 1997.

Twice now Labour have let our economy go to ruin and failed to act to stop spiralling debt, it is now up to the Conservatives again to save us, lets just hope David Cameron succeeds.