Ireland 'Votes Yes' In EU Treaty Referendum

[lick]

I Laughed at the pink part, so funny if this happened.
But yeah, lets see what happens now.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor..._Lisbon_Treaty

Irish voters have backed the Lisbon Treaty referendum at a second time of asking, the country's foreign affairs minister has said.


Early tallies from count centres across Ireland suggested voters have accepted the charter, following a massive swing to the "Yes" side.

Minister Micheal Martin said: "I'm delighted for the country. It looks like a convincing win for the Yes side.

"It's good for Ireland", he told RTE Radio.

Polling stations closed at 10pm yesterday and a final verdict is expected by late afternoon.

After the shock rejection of the Treaty, which aims to modernise and streamline the EU, in a referendum in June last year, this time supporters are confident of victory.

Times have changed: with higher unemployment and the Irish economy in meltdown, people here are far more open to the argument that the European Union is good for this country.

Despite the government here being deeply unpopular, which might attract a substantial protest vote, the arguments are not obscured this time by issues like abortion and Ireland's neutrality.

The implications of the vote are huge.

If the Irish reject the treaty again it will be dead in the water.

However if as expected they vote "Yes", the Poles and the Czechs are likely to follow suit and the treaty will be ratified.

That could put enormous pressure on the Conservative leader David Cameron, who has promised to hold a similar referendum in Britain if he wins the next election.

On a lighter note, "No" supporters say that if they lose they will demand a replay.

They say the score will be 1-1 and it would only be fair to have a decider - another referendum!

:: There have been suggestions in the European Parliament that ex-British prime minister Tony Blair could be given the job of EU president which would be created if the Lisbon Treaty comes into force.

The Tories have issued a warning to European leaders not to appoint Mr Blair.

Shadow foreign secretary William Hague said the Conservatives were prepared to lobby European capitals in an effort to block the appointment.

[Ardemax]

gg undertaker - guess they voted yes huh

imo, they were going to vote yes because they needed to, theres a load of benefits

[-:Undertaker:-]

gg undertaker - guess they voted yes huh

imo, they were going to vote yes because they needed to, theres a load of benefits

How is this democratic when they have already voted? - The no camp are right, its one all now so whens the final referendum?. The Republic of Ireland have gone with the Lisbon Treaty then, and goodluck to them. The rest of Europe 20+ countries are still awaiting their referendums which are being denied to them. At the end of the day, the Republic of Ireland has voted yes now and wishes to be in this new superstate, despite unfair and bullying tactics used against the Irish (making them vote twice) so now its our turn and the rest of Europes' turn.

On a better note, if the Czech and Polish Presidents' can hold off for a few more months, the United Kingdom will get the referendum it deserves - and halt the superstate that nobody wants, forming before our eyes.

[Ardemax]

im pretty sure the uk just went along with it?

[GommeInc]

im pretty sure the uk just went along with it?

Had no choice, there was no vote on whether we wanted it not. The only thing decided was whether the tiny minority wanted it, which was whoever decided we didnt have a choice :/

[alexxxxx]

The Irish thought that the guarantees given to them was enough to vote yes for the second time.

It wasn't even close, 67% voted yes, with only a slight increase in voter turnout, meaning many people even changed their minds, due to guarantees. That's democracy folks, you say no to something you don't like and fight for what you want.

[-:Undertaker:-]

im pretty sure the uk just went along with it?

The political elite in the United Kingdom went along with it, not the people and not the people of Europe.

Had no choice, there was no vote on whether we wanted it not. The only thing decided was whether the tiny minority wanted it, which was whoever decided we didnt have a choice :/

The idiots incharge such as Gordon Brown, Brian Cowen, David Milliband and Peter Mandelson will all end up having jobs in the European Union, I can gurantee it just like their good friend Tony Blair, oh but wait.. Peter Mandelson has already had a job in the European Union after having to resign twice from British government for fraud!.

It is insane to say the least.

The Irish thought that the guarantees given to them was enough to vote yes for the second time.

It wasn't even close, 67% voted yes, with only a slight increase in voter turnout, meaning many people even changed their minds, due to guarantees. That's democracy folks, you say no to something you don't like and fight for what you want.

If its democracy as you call it, when are the United Kingdom, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden going to get their referendums?.

How dare you say its democracy as a European Union supporter; it really is the top of hypocrisy, If it is democracy then the only referendums held over the reform of Europe put NO on 3 and YES on 1. That means the European Union is not wanted by a margin of 3 to 1 (and bearing in mind France, Republic of Ireland and the Netherlands are the only countries to of been asked their opinon).

A lot of people are also forgetting that the Republic of Ireland only held this referendum because they legally had to, if Brian Cowen and the European Union would of had it their way, they would never of had a referendum in the first place.

A good thing is that this is putting the spotlight on the European Union now, and people are becoming more and more aware of just how corrupt, undemocratic the European Union is. A sad day for the Republic of Ireland who fought to leave the British Empire yet have now been swallowed up by another, much more sinister one-nation superstate in the making.

The question the British people and the people of Europe are asking themselves is 'why our our governments not giving us the right to express our opinion and decide our own futures' and they already know the answer; because if Europe was given a vote on the European Union, the European Union would cease to exist overnight.

[Fez]

Hello new world order.

[alexxxxx]

If its democracy as you call it, when are the United Kingdom, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden going to get their referendums?.

How dare you say its democracy as a European Union supporter; it really is the top of hypocrisy, If it is democracy then the only referendums held over the reform of Europe put NO on 3 and YES on 1. That means the European Union is not wanted by a margin of 3 to 1 (and bearing in mind France, Republic of Ireland and the Netherlands are the only countries to of been asked their opinon).

A lot of people are also forgetting that the Republic of Ireland only held this referendum because they legally had to, if Brian Cowen and the European Union would of had it their way, they would never of had a referendum in the first place.

A good thing is that this is putting the spotlight on the European Union now, and people are becoming more and more aware of just how corrupt, undemocratic the European Union is. A sad day for the Republic of Ireland who fought to leave the British Empire yet have now been swallowed up by another, much more sinister one-nation superstate in the making.

The question the British people and the people of Europe are asking themselves is 'why our our governments not giving us the right to express our opinion and decide our own futures' and they already know the answer; because if Europe was given a vote on the European Union, the European Union would cease to exist overnight.

Central EU cannot order a state to ratify a treaty via referendum as it's up to the national governments to decide how to ratify treaties as each state has different legal/government systems.
2/3 voted in favor of the Lisbon Treaty. Remember, this was a referendum on the LISBON TREATY and not THE EU. Just because someone doesn't agree with the lisbon treaty, doesn't mean they are anti-eu. In effect, if you read the treaty, or even the outline, it gives the directly elected parliament more power and say in the budget and other key areas and sets out a way to leave the EU. You seem to have very little knowledge of the contents of the treaty of lisbon and see it as a vote for or against the EU.

Our government and every other EU government is directly elected by the people in that particular country. They represent the people. The electorate vote in those to evaluate and vote on bills, treaties, etc. That's how it works. The decision to not give a referendum on the LISBON TREATY, which ISN'T the same as the EU CONSTITUTION, though similar, but there are differences, was democratic.

When the tories get voted in next year, that will be democracy, however when the Irish vote YES on treaty of lisbon, because it isn't right in your view that an electorate should have to vote twice, after being offered legally binding guarantees on sensitive issues, it's undemocratic. I don't understand your hypocrisy.

It's a good day for the EU and Ireland. The far-right Czechs and the Poles will probably hold up the ratification until Cameron comes in anyway. If the Czechs ratify it, they will probably have to get out of the dodgy alliance they have with Cameron.

And I truely don't think the whole of Europe are anti-EU.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Hello new world order.

Where are the IRA when they have a decent cause to fight for?

Central EU cannot order a state to ratify a treaty via referendum as it's up to the national governments to decide how to ratify treaties as each state has different legal/government systems.
2/3 voted in favor of the Lisbon Treaty. Remember, this was a referendum on the LISBON TREATY and not THE EU. Just because someone doesn't agree with the lisbon treaty, doesn't mean they are anti-eu. In effect, if you read the treaty, or even the outline, it gives the directly elected parliament more power and say in the budget and other key areas and sets out a way to leave the EU. You seem to have very little knowledge of the contents of the treaty of lisbon and see it as a vote for or against the EU.

Our government and every other EU government is directly elected by the people in that particular country. They represent the people. The electorate vote in those to evaluate and vote on bills, treaties, etc. That's how it works. The decision to not give a referendum on the LISBON TREATY, which ISN'T the same as the EU CONSTITUTION, though similar, but there are differences, was democratic.

When the tories get voted in next year, that will be democracy, however when the Irish vote YES on treaty of lisbon, because it isn't right in your view that an electorate should have to vote twice, after being offered legally binding guarantees on sensitive issues, it's undemocratic. I don't understand your hypocrisy.

It's a good day for the EU and Ireland. The far-right Czechs and the Poles will probably hold up the ratification until Cameron comes in anyway. If the Czechs ratify it, they will probably have to get out of the dodgy alliance they have with Cameron.

And I truely don't think the whole of Europe are anti-EU.

Hang on, lets just cut to the crap now.

How is it a good day for Europe and the United Kingdom when the people of Europe are being forced to accept a treaty they do not want, a union they do not want, a presidential post they do not want.

IF the European Union was democratic, it would urge governments to hold referendums on the treaty, in a fair and democratic way but it refuses to. - does it? - NO.

The Lisbon Treaty is a re-write of the EU Consitition, which was turned down by the French, Dutch and Irish. The Lisbon Treaty was turned down by the Irish the first time. Therefore if you can do simple maths, that makes; NO at 4 and YES at 3. I have said before, the Irish have chosen their path as stupid as I think it is, now its time for the rest of Europe to let their people choose their own path aswell, do you or do you not agree?

If i'm quite honest I couldn't give a toss whether or not Spain, Luxembourg or Ireland say yes. I want the referendum that Tony Blair and Gordon Brown promised in the 2005 manifesto and all of the United Kingdom wants it now. The Irish have been fooled into believing the European Unino created the Celtic Tiger economy, the Celtic Tiger was built on debt and credit and collapsed as it eventually did.

The whole of Europe isn't anti-EU, Spain benefits greatly from British money going there. The United Kingdom is anti-EU, therefore why the hell are we in it?