EU Migrants being sent home

[alexxxxx]

Under EU rules, those not financially sufficient can be sent back to their home state:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sent-home.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...e-removal.html

[MattFr]

Under EU rules, those not financially sufficient can be sent back to their home state:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sent-home.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...e-removal.html

Good..

[Hitman]

I echo what MattFr said, GOOD.

If they send them back or not is another question... wouldn't be surprised if they were allowed to stay. We let rapists stay...

[alexxxxx]

I echo what MattFr said, GOOD.

If they send them back or not is another question... wouldn't be surprised if they were allowed to stay. We let rapists stay...

i think the words "we will remove him once he gets married." This guy has just used a loophole and if the immigration authorities do their job properly they will make sure he goes nowhere and will deport him.

This story that i have shown above just cuts into UKIP's claim that we can't control immigration in the EU. We can - if they don't work. The french do it too.

[Hitman]

i think the words "we will remove him once he gets married." This guy has just used a loophole and if the immigration authorities do their job properly they will make sure he goes nowhere and will deport him.

This story that i have shown above just cuts into UKIP's claim that we can't control immigration in the EU. We can - if they don't work. The french do it too.

Indeed but it shouldn't get to that: he committed a nasty crime and should have been deported straight away.

Er, no, not really. If spongebob and his mates from Poland want to come to the UK they can freely, there's not much control there... OK, so they get told they have to leave 'cos they're living rough. They'll just do a runner* and live rough elsewhere - great. Your story is basically showing us that we can very lightly 'control' it once we find them sleeping rough, which we then need a load of people to deport them which will cost money. It's better to prevent them from entering first, saves money and hassle.

*"Officers from Peterborough City Council, Cambridgeshire Constabulary and the UKBA have already delivered warnings to 27 migrants" - wow, warnings. That would have cost them money, I mean, these migrants probably can't speak English so they'd need to translate. And a warning is useless... they'll just run off as I said.

[alexxxxx]

Indeed but it shouldn't get to that: he committed a nasty crime and should have been deported straight away.

I agree but i think you are unfair in saying that we are 'letting him say'

Er, no, not really. If spongebob and his mates from Poland want to come to the UK they can freely, there's not much control there... OK, so they get told they have to leave 'cos they're living rough. They'll just do a runner* and live rough elsewhere - great. Your story is basically showing us that we can very lightly 'control' it once we find them sleeping rough, which we then need a load of people to deport them which will cost money. It's better to prevent them from entering first, saves money and hassle.

and quite rightly spongebob should be allowed to come and work here, like I can there. Why in your right mind would you want to stay living rough? Often these people can't afford to go home. Why should we prevent them from coming here? So they can't put money into the pot for everyone? So they can't take up jobs which aren't taken by british people?

*"Officers from Peterborough City Council, Cambridgeshire Constabulary and the UKBA have already delivered warnings to 27 migrants" - wow, warnings. That would have cost them money, I mean, these migrants probably can't speak English so they'd need to translate. And a warning is useless... they'll just run off as I said.

how do you KNOW they can't speak english? They might run off - but where to? Nowhere. They'll go home, where they will be able to stay with their families and hopefully find jobs.

[Hitman]

I agree but i think you are unfair in saying that we are 'letting him say'

But we are letting him stay - he'll just use human rights as an excuse and the politically correct judges will let him stay. Maybe we'll get rid of him though, but like I say he should have been kicked out before it got to this.

and quite rightly spongebob should be allowed to come and work here, like I can there. Why in your right mind would you want to stay living rough? Often these people can't afford to go home. Why should we prevent them from coming here? So they can't put money into the pot for everyone? So they can't take up jobs which aren't taken by british people?

OK, so spongebob is poor and he comes to the UK looking for work because he has none in Poland and he is living badly there too. He gets to the UK and gets no job and he has no money to get home so he stays and sleeps rough. Maybe he'll turn to crime to survive? There was a story about migrants from eastern Europe squatting in people's back gardens and they were drug addicts.

I am not saying block the borders totally, I am saying that they should pass certain requirements: speak English*, have money to support themselves, possibly have a job to come to and have some sort of skills. At the moment I believe anybody can just come over.

*or at least be willing to learn English.

how do you KNOW they can't speak english? They might run off - but where to? Nowhere. They'll go home, where they will be able to stay with their families and hopefully find jobs.

I do not know for a fact - nobody knows a lot of things - I don't know if I'm gonna live tomorrow, but I probably will. I doubt they can speak English, maybe a few could, but if they're from Poland they will most likely speak Polish and Polish only unless they had English lessons or learnt here. They'd run off to some other place where they can squat. They were fine doing it before so why won't they do it again? Going home and finding jobs... no... if they're poor then they most likely came to this country for work. A poor person does not come to a country to walk around the parks all day looking at ducks. If they travelled all the way over here to find work then there must be none where they came from...

[alexxxxx]

But we are letting him stay - he'll just use human rights as an excuse and the politically correct judges will let him stay. Maybe we'll get rid of him though, but like I say he should have been kicked out before it got to this.

I think he'll probably get kicked out.

OK, so spongebob is poor and he comes to the UK looking for work because he has none in Poland and he is living badly there too. He gets to the UK and gets no job and he has no money to get home so he stays and sleeps rough. Maybe he'll turn to crime to survive? There was a story about migrants from eastern Europe squatting in people's back gardens and they were drug addicts.

I am not saying block the borders totally, I am saying that they should pass certain requirements: speak English, have money to support themselves, possibly have a job to come to and have some sort of skills. At the moment I believe anybody can just come over.

Well it is true that unemployment rates in Poland are much higher than here and even if they are fairly well qualified - university degree and higher, they can make more money here doing menial work than doing qualified work in Poland. I remember distinctly an interviewer of a woman who was working in a sandwich shop making more money than her old job - a bank manager in Poland. You're assuming that wage levels are the same - which isn't true.

I do not know for a fact - nobody knows a lot of things - I don't know if I'm gonna live tomorrow, but I probably will. I doubt they can speak English, maybe a few could, but if they're from Poland they will most likely speak Polish and Polish only unless they had English lessons or learnt here. They'd run off to some other place where they can squat. They were fine doing it before so why won't they do it again? Going home and finding jobs... no... if they're poor then they most likely came to this country for work. A poor person does not come to a country to walk around the parks all day looking at ducks. If they travelled all the way over here to find work then there must be none where they came from...

Other countries' language learning abilities are much better than ours. I expect they will have learned english there. Their rate of university graduates is higher than the UK. Most other points have been dealt with above.

[Sharon]

guess i'm going home then OJ OJ LMAO.

That's good I suppose ;

[Jordy]

Step in the right direction I suppose, definitely needs doing but my main issue with EU immigration is how illegal immigrants can just board a boat from Africa to the canary islands (Spanish) and then be transported wherever they like around the EU seeing as they're in Spain, they then choose the UK...