My ideas :)

[immense]

Don't read if you're not going to TEAR THEM TO PIECES / agree / post something good yeah.


Habbox – what has gone wrong?

Now I’m not going to place all the blame with the current management. That would be grossly unfair. It would be like Liverpool fans blaming Roy Hodgson for their sorry state of affairs. It would be wrong to say that any of the current senior heads have done anything wrong. They haven’t. However, management aren’t free from blame in all of this. If we look at successful General Management teams – they have put Habbox first. This is no longer the case. The current management are all very much forum based and the impetus is with the forum. The site has declined because of this unequal balance and inevitably it has now struck the forum which we all have to agree on has seen better days. Habbox (I will use Habbox to talk about the site) and HxF for the forum is the most important part. Simple. 8freak8 knew this. ---MAD--- knew this. Both of these made changes to the site as and when they saw fit. They were the last General Managers to think up new, exciting ideas for the site.
It is easy to try and satisfy people on the forum because that’s where the moaners (people like me) come from. However, the most important people in keeping the forum and site busy are potential users / visitors. All businesses know this. For example, banks often offer you incentives to join them. Of course, Habbox can’t offer incentives but it can realise that it is potential users they have to attract. How can they? By offering new and exciting material. Simple. The site is awfully out-dated and I’m sure it was going to be revamped in spring – we’re now quickly approaching winter. Of course, there might be delays and I’m sure there are endless excuses for this. Excuses don’t bring users.

If you don’t make some changes with the site – then it’s the beginning of the end. Dramatic? Maybe. The truth? I think so. Habboxlive has to cease to exist, it has failed miserably lately. The previous ‘regime’ went on far too long. It has to be merged with Habbox and HxL used no more. I assume this would save money too? It might be pennies, I might be wrong, I’m clueless. It’s not about money though; it’s about making Habbox as a whole more manageable and more user friendly.

Although, I’m permanently banned and seen as a trouble maker on Habbox I think I’ m one of a handful of perhaps as few as five who genuinely want to see it come good and I’m more prepared to face the people who say I care too much for something online but Habbox has really helped me with certain things in my life and I know there are others like me.

That is somewhat irrelevant and I am known for going off at a tangent. Client advertising could potentially help considerably. I recently got the richest user on the game to have an interview with Habbox. I organised this on the client and hooked him up with Garion who I’m sure sorted it from there. My point is, Habbox is a big power and if they hired somebody well known on Habbo to help them with advertising it could go a long way. I think many of the top casinos would happily put habbox.com in their descriptions and give you a sticky in the room too. I think small things like this could go a long way.

Whilst we’re taking about a client, this is an idea I put forward to ---MAD--- two years ago which never got implemented but alas I will present it again. A Habbox Hallway – basically, you ask some of the most popular rooms on Habbo (casinos/schools/Hogwarts/mafias) – whatever if they will put a tele in their room which connects to a Habbox Hallway. In return, they get their room advertised on Habbox.com. In this hallway all the best rooms will be connected but the room will be designed so that the tele that leads to HxHD or any other official Habbox rooms are the most appealing (perhaps place in the middle of the room). This could bring hundreds more people into HxHD who in turn could possibly use Habbox.

I think you need to contact really popular sites such as habbotimes.de and ask them if they want HabboxForum to be their official UK Forum. It wouldn’t have to be anything official. You could explain to them their fansite is huge in UK and that you’d be willing to give them an advertisement slot if they were to link to HxF. Of course, this isn’t possible if they have their own UK Forum (I don’t think they do however).

Staffing – I’ve said this before. You need to begin to look at management and wonder if they’d still use Habbox without their role. Some General Management don’t even post on the forum and I think that’s an essential part of the role, people don’t really know who they are. 8freak8 was an ecelebrity on Habbo and was known by a lot of people – not just regular uses of Habbox. If xxMattGxx came into a room only those who were closely linked with Habbox would have an idea who he is and even then they’d probably call him forum manager or something. My point is that you need:

• Interactive management
In the sense they will get involved with users and become well known, whether that’s for posting loads or being at a lot of Habbox events is irrelevant.

• Dedicated Management
Would you current management use Habbox if their job titled was removed? -:Undertaker:- would. Does ,Jess, use it now? Does Garion? (I don’t actually know if they do because I don’t use it half as much as I used to myself!) I just haven’t seen them lately. I’m going to give some people an ego boost now that will probably see them put it in their signatures and go crazy BUT people like Jordy, -:Undertaker:-, Robbie, Pyroka, Richie will use this forum until the end – I think all of the above would be more than willing to help Habbox in some way or another. Basically, I’m saying they should be management and run this thing but I guess that’s a tad rude to current management. I didn’t just pick my friends because anyone who is in the know around here knows that Richie and I don’t get on.

• Powerful people with power!
You can’t have pushovers. Look at the best staff members – 8freak8 - ---MAD--- - nvrspk4 – Immenseman did they take crap? No they didn’t. I’m sure nobody will have anything to say about the individuals I chose there.

The technical problems are fixed now but they won’t be forever? It’s perfectly normal for websites to have technical issues. Seeing as Jamesy is technically minded and has Administrative powers on the forum would it really be that dangerous to upping his capabilities and allowing him to have access to server and fix issues. Obviously, I don’t know if that even makes sense or what access certain people have. Basically, Jamesy could have the same power as Jin – theoretically it doubles the chances of a serious ‘attack’ but it would ensure problems can be sorted quicker. This isn’t a criticism of MattG (basically saying he can’t do techy stuff if you wondered why he’d be insulted) or Jin (who I know has more considerable things than Habbox in his life).

Now for the forum – Habbox is just too old. The skins are good but they need to be simple and slim – that’s the most attractive way for things to be. ClubHabbo have this down to an absolute tee. I think you could probably get something done for free if not very cheap if you agreed to advertise their site at the very bottom. Something like this skin was made by www.sitenamehere.com – you catch my drift. People still see HxF as more confusing than other sites and I don’t know why that is. I would make a new account but I’d probably be permed and accused of all sorts as per.

I also think you should make it so people can hide post/rep/join date. Habbox has been around for so long that people don’t think they can fit in. Sure the members with the ‘best’ of those list of things above aren’t going to hide their info but someone who joins today could hide theirs and not have to be seen as a ‘newbie’. (this is a test to see if anyone reads this – if you read this – start your reply with the word banana) Habbox has tackled them being victimised and made usergroup changes – I think this could work too. Maybe even reset rep (lol…)

Mass unban. Not just for me! Keep me banned if you think that’s what it’s about. Make a new usergroup. Put all banned users in there. Make it so they get permed if they get two infractions in the first month or something? I don’t know. Email them informing them of this change. I say this because when you see an old thread. Select a random one from 2005/6 almost half of the users are banned. Sure, there might be fireworks for the first few weeks but anything is better than nothing! I know this is controversial but I think it could be incredibly successful.

Mass email. Send an email to all registered users telling them about the new Habbox and all the exciting changes you have planned. People might moan and say they don’t want to be spammed but who gives a ****. Companies in the real world don’t ever let you forget they exist, let Habbox be the same. Ram it down peoples throats if you have to. Perhaps instead of writing this I should have made and printed out leaflets and handed them around Lancaster city centre – would have taken less time!
Be lenient. Let people argue within reason. Do something revolutionary. Scrap all rules and make one rule “use common sense” let moderators penalise for what they think needs penalising. Obviously cover yourself with “we reserve the right to ban/infract you” and all that tish tosh.

As you can see the last four points are very controversial and maybe not the best thought out but I have never seen Habbox like this before and perhaps, just perhaps that is what it needs to waken it from its slumber. I don’t want people replying saying Habbox always has ups and downs – yes it does. I am 100% sure that it has never been like this in my 4+ years of actively using this forum.

Anyway, I’ve just seen this is almost 2k words which is quite frankly ridiculous. Almost as long as my HxF ban appeal. So I will summarise it which will also make it easier for those who reply to quote and relay their ideas back to me. (Only just saved this for the first time, risky).

• Don’t blame current management – the signs were there for a while.
• Habbox (site) is more important than Forum – get working on that.
• New material for Habbox – teens corner, persuade Jin. What else?
• Merge HabboxLive and Habbox
• Get well known Habbos to advertise Habbo in their rooms
• Put teles in the most popular Habbo rooms and create a Habbox mall type thing – link to HxHD too.
• Ask popular foreign Habbo fansites (habbotimes) if they want Habbox to be their UK based forum.
• From now on only choose management who are dedicated, powerful, interact and actively use Habbo (being known is a preference – yes shallow but does undoubtedly help).
• Allow Jamesy or someone else who can do techy stuff the same access as Jin or enough to be able to fix things.
• One new forum skin. Slim. Neutral colours. SMALL BANNER. Cute. For teenagers.
• Allow people to hide rep/join date/post count – reset rep?
• Mass unban
• Email all userbase
• Be more lenient with rules / scrap all rules apart from use common sense

[Jamesy]

-- I have seperated all ones that do not affect the forum directly, as I do not have experience in these --

• Habbox (site) is more important than Forum – get working on that.
It's being worked on and yes I agree, I am quite strange in believing the site should come first and do find it sometimes frustrating that, for example Easter this year, the forum seemed to be the one that carried the custom skins and variation when the site sat unchanged. With v6 (ohoh yes falling back on this lovely excuse) there are some pretty hot plans for the site and the forum as well. Obviously I cannot reveal them but you're not going to be disapointed.

• Allow Jamesy or someone else who can do techy stuff the same access as Jin or enough to be able to fix things.
I thank you for your belief in me but I would blow the place higher than a crack addict on a saturday night, I do think more power should be delegated in this sense though. Especially over summer when people get server banned for mistyping passwords and Matt was unable to unban them I think this should be something delegated to him for sure.

• One new forum skin. Slim. Neutral colours. SMALL BANNER. Cute. For teenagers.
Well I am hoping V6 skin can acheive this. I have no plans for any other skins apart from the v6 and christmas ones, however I can always factor your suggestions into these! You will see with the halloween one I have dropped the full width header which came up a few weeks back . But if I get time in my busy schedule I can always see at a later date.

• Allow people to hide rep/join date/post count – reset rep?
It's a possibility I suppose, I'm not sure how rampant joindate elitism is here and besides which the rank system gives away the rough postcount of a user. Resetting rep is an unusual one. I think it would be met with staunch opposition from everyone.

• Mass unban
Something close potentially in future. Can't say much since I have not discussed formally with upper management.

• Email all userbase
I think this would be brilliant at the launch of v6. If we could somehow tie lots and lots of reforms into this period it would make a big impact!

• Be more lenient with rules / scrap all rules apart from use common sense
As ever I am always keen to hear suggestions for specific rules, I do believe in a common sense approach - although I tend to believe users should demonstrate it a bit more, not all - just some. It will be a slow process but it's one I don't see as impossible.

Sorry to meet your mountain of words with my somewhat shorter replies! x)

[rnix]

Banana, some very good points there, i think management really need to read this thread
Nice points

[Hecktix]

I have read it, I'm gonna reply using the summary though to make all of our lives easier!

Replies in red:

• Habbox (site) is more important than Forum – get working on that.

Absolutely correct here, Habbox needs to get the new site out ASAP, I know there's a deadline and it's currently being worked towards but I really want to beat this deadline and get our new, unique website out there and provide Habbos with the ultimate fansite experience - as that's the only thing we can aim for really.

• New material for Habbox – teens corner, persuade Jin. What else?

I think it was you who suggested something like this before when I was Forum Manager, it was a really good idea and I think the content department should really take it on board - HINT HINT JIN, V6 CODERS AND ALKAZ.

• Merge HabboxLive and Habbox

This is necessary, HabboxLive has been very successful on its own however now they are in desperate times, I've seen the graphs, they aren't pretty (they aren't any less pretty than most other fansites mind) and something needs doing, I think a merge between the two sites would be a good first step and I think this is going to happen in the not so distant future.

• Get well known Habbos to advertise Habbo in their rooms
• Put teles in the most popular Habbo rooms and create a Habbox mall type thing – link to HxHD too.

I like this idea and I believe something like this got started, not sure what happened with it although that seems to be the story of Habbox more often than not, I know Roxy has good ideas for Habbo presence we should just get on with getting it all implemented.

• Ask popular foreign Habbo fansites (habbotimes) if they want Habbox to be their UK based forum.

I like the idea, it would depend on Jin agreeing as of course it is his website (i'm sure sierk would agree though aha), it would also be good to affiliate ourselves with other popular resource sites such as HabboGallery.net and perhaps even puhekepla or whatever it is.

• From now on only management who are dedicated, powerful, interact and actively use Habbo (being known is a preference – yes shallow but does undoubtedly help).

Famous management aren't always the best management, it's about dedication to Habbox and whether they know the role they are in and can fulfil it.

• Allow Jamesy or someone else who can do techy stuff the same access as Jin or enough to be able to fix things.

Giving xxMATTGxx server access would be useful, he is also quite technically minded and wouldn't break too much I don't think....

• One new forum skin. Slim. Neutral colours. SMALL BANNER. Cute. For teenagers.

Not my cup of tea but I'm not the only user here, if others agree then we'll see what Forum Management say, although we're about to release one new skin and I think further skins are also in the pipeline, most of these are seasonal.

• Allow people to hide rep/join date/post count – reset rep?
I like the idea of people being able to reset their rep, although this could be a problem if someone got hacked or whatever. Hide rep, post count and join date may be an idea. Join date is useful when appointing staff through PM though.

• Mass unban
Garion highlighted a way of offering a kind of mass unban, I'm in support of this, I've let Jamesy know and it will be discussed soon between General and Forum Management.

• Email all userbase

Again, another good idea ALTHOUGH lets be honest, we do all regret putting our real email address on habboforum.net - we can't get like that.

• Be more lenient with rules / scrap all rules apart from use common sense

I think more and more lenience is being applied day by day and it's working well, scrapping all the rules wouldn't work here at Habbox though.

[Con]

Banana

Habbox (site) is more important than Forum – get working on that. - I agree, a lot of things on the Habbox site need to be sorted now. There has been whispers about all these things being changed, but none of us have seen anything actually done and not all of us know exactly what is being done. I definitely agree a lot more focus should be put back into the actual Habbox site.

Merge HabboxLive and Habbox - I think this was tried before, but failed didn't it? But then again, this was when HabboxLive had 200 listeners regularly, when I looked on the radio recently it was something like 30. This is a number newbie sites get if they're lucky. Maybe a giant over haul of Habbox and the merging of HabboxLive would 1) help re-populate Habbox, but also get the general listeners numbers up.

Get well known Habbos to advertise Habbo in their rooms - Again another advertising point. This is definitely something I agree Habbox needs. As well as HabboxLive being low in listeners, Events seem to be lower in attenders. I think Events and Live need to work together soon and find the best way in which to haul back in listeners/attenders. Using well known Habbos again will probably be a good way to do this. I remember ages ago when there used to be well known Habbos that did use this (much like yourself) and now..it seems they have better places?

Put teles in the most popular Habbo rooms and create a Habbox mall type thing – link to HxHD too. Much the same as above.

Ask popular foreign Habbo fansites (habbotimes) if they want Habbox to be their UK based forum. Much the same as above again, another advertising method which should definitely be considered! If these sites know how Habbox used to be and how popular it used to be, and learn of the things it is planning then this will be a great way to advertise Habbox.


One new forum skin. Slim. Neutral colours. SMALL BANNER. Cute. For teenagers. Not sure on this one. But I don't think the forum needs 8 non-mobile skins. Really they should have a Site Skin, Other-Habbo Skin, Non-Habbo Light Skin, Non-Habbo Dark Skin. The site skin can then be updated during season changes + site updates.

Allow people to hide rep/join date/post count – reset rep? - Disagree with the resetting of reputation. But The idea of hiding it so people feel equal is a good idea. Of course, (super) moderators and management would have to be able to see this information for a number of reasons, but I do believe this may help. I know I have personally judged certain people by the date they joined, and I know other people do it too!

Mass unban - If this were to happen, the Moderation team would have to be at it's strongest and prepared for this. As it could go either way, a huge amount of rule breaking, or a very active forum once more. I do agree though from looking at old threads, like half the users are banned.

Email all userbase - Another method of advertising so I definitely agree. Maybe even just a PM / notification to look at an announcement. Which could inform everyone of the planned updates and roughly when we can expect these updates.

Be more lenient with rules / scrap all rules apart from use common sense - This has been said so much, and I finally agree now. I think just the general "Use Common Sense" rule makes sense. Obviously things like offensive/targetting/etc. would fall under common sense. This would also remove the complaints by users saying that it isn't fair etc. I also think the pointless posting rule has got a bit more lenient, but is still pointless itself. Of course something such as someone randomly posting an immature image or randomly saying "ROFLMAO" would be dealt with, but again Common Sense should be used in general and maybe just have a few general guidelines for the forum as a whole.

Wow, I think that's the biggest post I've ever made
Very good points! Maybe you should be back in management :L
+REP

[beth]

jake, i agree with almost everything you've posted. i think management should get a grip and take his points to heart.
but they won't.

+rep.

[immense]

My elaborate ploy, i.e. two hours of writing my fabulous ideas all to get some rep has worked a treat. I'm going for a shower and I will reply then. I have been told Pyroka is going to rape all my points.

[Pyroka]

Now I’m not going to place all the blame with the current management. That would be grossly unfair. It would be like Liverpool fans blaming Roy Hodgson for their sorry state of affairs. It would be wrong to say that any of the current senior heads have done anything wrong. They haven’t. However, management aren’t free from blame in all of this. If we look at successful General Management teams – they have put Habbox first. This is no longer the case. The current management are all very much forum based and the impetus is with the forum. The site has declined because of this unequal balance and inevitably it has now struck the forum which we all have to agree on has seen better days. Habbox (I will use Habbox to talk about the site) and HxF for the forum is the most important part. Simple. 8freak8 knew this. ---MAD--- knew this. Both of these made changes to the site as and when they saw fit. They were the last General Managers to think up new, exciting ideas for the site.

I agree with your opening statement fully. Habbox Management have primarily focused on the forum because it's the only userbase they have. The Joomla system isn't really used by the public, only by Staff meaning there cant be a community on the site. I also think HabboxLive doesn't get enough appreciation. 8Freak8 and ---MAD--- were good managers, regardless of the controversy of them leaving... Though I don't remember 8F8 actually leaving.

It is easy to try and satisfy people on the forum because that’s where the moaners (people like me) come from. However, the most important people in keeping the forum and site busy are potential users / visitors. All businesses know this. For example, banks often offer you incentives to join them. Of course, Habbox can’t offer incentives but it can realise that it is potential users they have to attract. How can they? By offering new and exciting material. Simple. The site is awfully out-dated and I’m sure it was going to be revamped in spring – we’re now quickly approaching winter. Of course, there might be delays and I’m sure there are endless excuses for this. Excuses don’t bring users.

STOP MAKING FILLER TEXT U SILLY MAN I CANT REPLY TO THIS

If you don’t make some changes with the site – then it’s the beginning of the end. Dramatic? Maybe. The truth? I think so. Habboxlive has to cease to exist, it has failed miserably lately. The previous ‘regime’ went on far too long. It has to be merged with Habbox and HxL used no more. I assume this would save money too? It might be pennies, I might be wrong, I’m clueless. It’s not about money though; it’s about making Habbox as a whole more manageable and more user friendly.

HabboxLive shouldn't be shut down... Simply rebranded and re-released as a fresh new product because currently HabboxLive is same old same old, it's got no real appeal & its userbase is old anyway. Avenues like iTunes playlists should be taken and promoted alot more, people will listen to HabboxLive on iTunes if they knew they could do so. The basic user doesnt, and the plus to HabboxLive on iTunes is that the destination to the server is saved as a file. Also a iPhone/Android application would benefit the forum for this, if they were to really take it seriously. In the end, revenue is revenue.

Although, I’m permanently banned and seen as a trouble maker on Habbox I think I’ m one of a handful of perhaps as few as five who genuinely want to see it come good and I’m more prepared to face the people who say I care too much for something onlin but Habbox has really helped me with certain things in my life and I know there are others like me.

You spoken the truth, thats why you were banned. The worst part about Habbox is that it bases people purely on there past, not on their present or future. Sure thats how employers work, they check your CV, contact you past references and what not, but this is a Habbo Forum where dedicated users are few and far between. You cant turn them away for making little mistakes, people mature over time & Habbox management should realise this.

That is somewhat irrelevant and I am known for going off at a tangent. Client advertising could potentially help considerably. I recently got the richest user on the game to have an interview with Habbox. I organised this on the client and hooked him up with Garion who I’m sure sorted it from there. My point is, Habbox is a big power and if they hired somebody well known on Habbo to help them with advertising it could go a long way. I think many of the top casinos would happily put habbox.com in their descriptions and give you a sticky in the room too. I think small things like this could go a long way.

Hiring them wouldn't be a good idea, creating a partnership with them sounds much better. Remember how important people promoting inside the client are, they're as important as the Forum Moderators who make sure people are polite, or as important as a good management structure. Without them, it could potentially fall apart. Plus the return from sponsoring users like that, giving them their own casino forums (in Trading section) or anything like that would be massive to Habbox. They've gotta get more involved, instead of being this exclusive secluded community for just the oldtimers.

Whilst we’re taking about a client, this is an idea I put forward to ---MAD--- two years ago which never got implemented but alas I will present it again. A Habbox Hallway – basically, you ask some of the most popular rooms on Habbo (casinos/schools/Hogwarts/mafias) – whatever if they will put a tele in their room which connects to a Habbox Hallway. In return, they get their room advertised on Habbox.com. In this hallway all the best rooms will be connected but the room will be designed so that the tele that leads to HxHD or any other official Habbox rooms are the most appealing (perhaps place in the middle of the room). This could bring hundreds more people into HxHD who in turn could possibly use Habbox.

It'd be a good idea. Ideas like this should be reconsidered, I don't think Habbox Management consider past ideas and think of them in the present because right now stuff like that would be great. I do think though Hallways may be a bit too extreme, perhaps just a Universal tag like HxR (For Habbox Room) would be good, so all you have to search is HxR for all the Habbox Rooms. Nobody wants to type out [HxR] imo, although it looks neat it's also a bit annoying for users... especially the lazy ones

I think you need to contact really popular sites such as habbotimes.de and ask them if they want HabboxForum to be their official UK Forum. It wouldn’t have to be anything official. You could explain to them their fansite is huge in UK and that you’d be willing to give them an advertisement slot if they were to link to HxF. Of course, this isn’t possible if they have their own UK Forum (I don’t think they do however).

This is why you should be in a position of authority in management, of some sort. Ideas like this are so good, I wouldnt have even thought of it. You think outside the box, and you're good at it. Contacting big sites like that would be a great idea to span out to a new userbase. Creating friendships with other fansite owners will thus help a network span out, it means that fansites like Habbox, Clubhabbo & HabboTimes can actually come together, share ideas and help eachother out, like a Fansite Forum (paha), but thats purely in the ideal world & as great as that'd be, you have to take ideas like that with a bit of salt.

Staffing – I’ve said this before. You need to begin to look at management and wonder if they’d still use Habbox without their role. Some General Management don’t even post on the forum and I think that’s an essential part of the role, people don’t really know who they are. 8freak8 was an ecelebrity on Habbo and was known by a lot of people – not just regular uses of Habbox. If xxMattGxx came into a room only those who were closely linked with Habbox would have an idea who he is and even then they’d probably call him forum manager or something. My point is that you need:

Agreed on this, xxMATTGxx uses Habbo alot and he's good at that. He also stays active with the Minecraft community, I mean it's a start isnt it? Thats the same with Jamesy too. Sarah (Transcripts), everytime I go on Habbo I see her, she's interacting with Habbos both off & on the forum. Roxy916 I see whilst at events sometimes, but I never see her on the forums posting. Other than that I think right now management are becoming alot more transparent in how they're posting on the forum and interacting with the community. It's nice.

• Interactive management
In the sense they will get involved with users and become well known, whether that’s for posting loads or being at a lot of Habbox events is irrelevant.

I'd say we already have this management style.

• Dedicated Management
Would you current management use Habbox if their job titled was removed? -:Undertaker:- would. Does ,Jess, use it now? Does Garion? (I don’t actually know if they do because I don’t use it half as much as I used to myself!) I just haven’t seen them lately. I’m going to give some people an ego boost now that will probably see them put it in their signatures and go crazy BUT people like Jordy, -:Undertaker:-, Robbie, Pyroka, Richie will use this forum until the end – I think all of the above would be more than willing to help Habbox in some way or another. Basically, I’m saying they should be management and run this thing but I guess that’s a tad rude to current management. I didn’t just pick my friends because anyone who is in the know around here knows that Richie and I don’t get on.

Agreed on that... & thanks for the ego boost you've made me non-emo, but the people you just named, ALL of them have made a great contribution to HabboxForum. I'll list why:

- Jordy was once a Moderator, going onto the path of Super Moderator. He was fired because in the past (funny how it catches up to you) he posted something on the Habbox Site whilst being a News Reporter, and was fired. Adzeh reported him, he lost his Moderator job which he was very good at. If he stayed at it now, he'd probably have been Forum Manager and then left, or he'd be a dedicated Super Moderator.

- Richie got fired despite providing HabboxLive with its radio for a while, being a great DJ, a good mentor to HabboxLive DJ's (because yes, I've seen in the HabboxLive forums & he's made alot of material for you guys), and yet he's still fired. I have no idea why, but I also have no idea why he can't be brought back. He even shown me a PM from MattGarner which said that there was a mistake in rehiring him as a trialist a month ago, and his trial was revoked. They didn't give him a reason, and given that he's done all of the above for Habbox, surely he would deserve one, or to have never had the trial retracted at all.

- -:Undertaker:- is a great member of staff who has been dedicated to Habbox for like ever. I'm not gonna lie I don't know much about the guy, but thats the thing about him. You know why he's at Habbox, you know he's good at his job (why else would he have taken the management position in Rare Values TWICE?) & yet he's been fired for reasons only management would know. He's good, he's dedicated, give him a little appreciation.

- Robbie I think is the most experienced guy on the forum, he's a site coder, he's trusted with Habbox coding and on the forum (even when he had permissions on the forum he never used them for malicious purposes), and yet he hasn't been made a Super Moderator, a position which both me and you (Jake) have been promoting him for. It's bonkers.

- Pyroka should be General Manager cuz he's awesome.

- On an ending note, Immenseman should be unbanned and given a job in whatever he pleases. Seriously, the guys dedicated. He gives this much feedback to Management and you don't think he'd be good as management? I dont get it. It's beyond me. Past is the past, move on.

You can’t have pushovers. Look at the best staff members – 8freak8 - ---MAD--- - nvrspk4 – Immenseman did they take crap? No they didn’t. I’m sure nobody will have anything to say about the individuals I chose there.

Innit, hard nuts. I admit Bolt660 is a bit of a pushover at times but I know he'd put his foot down if he had to. Of course I'm talking about the fact he didn't get asked to be AGM (Staff), and I know it's past events but he would've been good at the job and I'm sure Oli agrees. Irony that Oli was News Manager before Bolt, Oli left, Bolt becomes News Manager, Oli comes back and overranks him. How did that happen haha, nothing against either of them of course

The technical problems are fixed now but they won’t be forever? It’s perfectly normal for websites to have technical issues. Seeing as Jamesy is technically minded and has Administrative powers on the forum would it really be that dangerous to upping his capabilities and allowing him to have access to server and fix issues. Obviously, I don’t know if that even makes sense or what access certain people have. Basically, Jamesy could have the same power as Jin – theoretically it doubles the chances of a serious ‘attack’ but it would ensure problems can be sorted quicker. This isn’t a criticism of MattG (basically saying he can’t do techy stuff if you wondered why he’d be insulted) or Jin (who I know has more considerable things than Habbox in his life).

Agreed there should be more tech savvy people, but the problem with that is that you have 3-4 people maintaining the servers, it's gonna get confusing at times. There should be a technician for each department, whether that be Habbox, HabboxForum or HabboxLive, though the priority to HabboxForum for its sheer traffic. Jamesy should be given server access definetely, he's the forum manager. It would make more sense to put the forum on a seperate server to everything else now, or keep the forum on this server and move the rest out. It's too big to share.

Now for the forum – Habbox is just too old. The skins are good but they need to be simple and slim – that’s the most attractive way for things to be. ClubHabbo have this down to an absolute tee. I think you could probably get something done for free if not very cheap if you agreed to advertise their site at the very bottom. Something like this skin was made by www.sitenamehere.com – you catch my drift. People still see HxF as more confusing than other sites and I don’t know why that is. I would make a new account but I’d probably be permed and accused of all sorts as per.

Yeah innit, simple, hardly any images, quick to load, mint. Hard to find skin designers though, it's usually one person doing them I think? I dunno who makes them nowadays, but they don't chug them out

I also think you should make it so people can hide post/rep/join date. Habbox has been around for so long that people don’t think they can fit in. Sure the members with the ‘best’ of those list of things above aren’t going to hide their info but someone who joins today could hide theirs and not have to be seen as a ‘newbie’. (this is a test to see if anyone reads this – if you read this – start your reply with the word banana) Habbox has tackled them being victimised and made usergroup changes – I think this could work too. Maybe even reset rep (lol…)

I see what you mean about this, especially with the join date. However I think someones suggested this in the past, but hey new Forum Manager, worth a try eh? Resetting rep would be a silly idea, however halfing it again wouldn't be a bad idea, or like doubling the values, pretty much just inflation innit lol. They did that in the past and it seemed to have to pay off, people still used the rep system. More Forum competitions would be nice, however it shouldnt be that you need to enter them, you should automatically be entered for using the forum. Also using the PM system to advertise events should be used alot more, it's never ever used like that and it really should!

Mass unban. Not just for me! Keep me banned if you think that’s what it’s about. Make a new usergroup. Put all banned users in there. Make it so they get permed if they get two infractions in the first month or something? I don’t know. Email them informing them of this change. I say this because when you see an old thread. Select a random one from 2005/6 almost half of the users are banned. Sure, there might be fireworks for the first few weeks but anything is better than nothing! I know this is controversial but I think it could be incredibly successful.

Unbanning would be good, also a mass pruning of users who havent logged in since a certain date needs to be done. It's probably safe to say that they won't be using their accounts anymore, and making more names available can only be a good thing!

Mass email. Send an email to all registered users telling them about the new Habbox and all the exciting changes you have planned. People might moan and say they don’t want to be spammed but who gives a ****. Companies in the real world don’t ever let you forget they exist, let Habbox be the same. Ram it down peoples throats if you have to. Perhaps instead of writing this I should have made and printed out leaflets and handed them around Lancaster city centre – would have taken less time!

Be lenient. Let people argue within reason. Do something revolutionary. Scrap all rules and make one rule “use common sense” let moderators penalise for what they think needs penalising. Obviously cover yourself with “we reserve the right to ban/infract you” and all that tish tosh.

Pretty much just covered that with the PM thing But yeah arguments within reason is good, though thats why they have the debates section. I'm sure by the time I post this, that point may have been highlighted already. OMG A Habbox Firefox addon would be minty, just like a sidebar for whenever you go onto Habbox sites, makes it easier for you to do things. Mind you, could do that with a Greasemonkey script too. Depends innit, a Habbox toolbar yknow like Habbo has, thatd be good.

As you can see the last four points are very controversial and maybe not the best thought out but I have never seen Habbox like this before and perhaps, just perhaps that is what it needs to waken it from its slumber. I don’t want people replying saying Habbox always has ups and downs – yes it does. I am 100% sure that it has never been like this in my 4+ years of actively using this forum.

Controversy pays off, bigtime. It gets people talking about the product again, gives it a new boost. Always good to have a bit of drama on the forum regarding policies.

Anyway, I’ve just seen this is almost 2k words which is quite frankly ridiculous. Almost as long as my HxF ban appeal. So I will summarise it which will also make it easier for those who reply to quote and relay their ideas back to me. (Only just saved this for the first time, risky).

• Don’t blame current management – the signs were there for a while.
• Habbox (site) is more important than Forum – get working on that.
• New material for Habbox – teens corner, persuade Jin. What else?
• Merge HabboxLive and Habbox
• Get well known Habbos to advertise Habbo in their rooms
• Put teles in the most popular Habbo rooms and create a Habbox mall type thing – link to HxHD too.
• Ask popular foreign Habbo fansites (habbotimes) if they want Habbox to be their UK based forum.
• From now on only choose management who are dedicated, powerful, interact and actively use Habbo (being known is a preference – yes shallow but does undoubtedly help).
• Allow Jamesy or someone else who can do techy stuff the same access as Jin or enough to be able to fix things.
• One new forum skin. Slim. Neutral colours. SMALL BANNER. Cute. For teenagers.
• Allow people to hide rep/join date/post count – reset rep?
• Mass unban
• Email all userbase
• Be more lenient with rules / scrap all rules apart from use common sense

I THINK I MAY HAVE BETTERED YOU ON YOUR POST COUNT NER omg I have coursework I'm such a nerd.

[Sammeth.]

blates stealing oli's format ty oli xo

Habbox (site) is more important than Forum – get working on that.
Obviously the quality of the site itself needs to be sorted. I think it was HotelUser that said they were currently coding the new version, which is good progress I guess. However I think the forum and site really go hand in hand, or at least should. The better the quality of the website, with advertisements for the forum etc, the more likely members may be willing to sign up and improve the forums quality with better discussion and a wider range of opinions.


Merge HabboxLive and Habbox
This is pretty much a must. The radio needs to remain but its content needs to be on Habbox, and that's it, no separate site. The radio is integral for promotion so the quality of it needs to step up a bit as it has declined as of late. But if its integrated into Habbox then in my opinion it should be a lot easier to maintain the quality of shows that DJs put out.


From now on only management who are dedicated, powerful, interact and actively use Habbo (being known is a preference – yes shallow but does undoubtedly help).
I pretty much agree with what Oli said here, its how they can do their job that should make the biggest impact on whether or not they deserve it rather than whether they are well known on Habbo.

Be more lenient with rules / scrap all rules apart from use common sense
Lenience and more relaxation is definitely a must, as it provides a more comfortable atmosphere and in general a happier community for members in the long run. But scrapping them altogether would not work at all, especially not here.


The stuff I've missed out, I did so because I either simply agree with it or I don't really have such strong feelings on it to have much of an opinion.

[Robbie]

With regards to merging habbox and hxl I did suggest it a few times a while ago but the whole hxl department seemed dead set against it and would not budge at all. I'll reply to the rest tomorrow, going bed now.

P.s: woo I got mentioned