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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...stan-year.html

    'My daddy is a hero': Girl, 6, attends funeral of her father - the 100th soldier to die in Afghanistan this year




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    The last time Lucy Davies waved her father goodbye, it was to wish him well during his tour of duty. Yesterday, the six-year-old waved a final, heartbreaking farewell at his funeral. Guardsman Christopher ­Davies, of the 1st Battalion Irish Guards, became the 100th member of Britain’s armed forces to die in Afghanistan this year after being shot during an ambush in Helmand province on November 17.

    The 22-year-old was described as a ‘legend, a perfect dad and a soldier’s soldier’ who wanted to make a difference, in emotional tributes from his mother ­Catherine, and his brothers Matt and John, the latter of whom had served alongside him. Hundreds of mourners lined the streets in his hometown of St Helens, Merseyside, to pay their respects.



    Our soldiers are dying out there all the time and for what? this story had me near tears, and thats the sad thing - what are they dying for? why can't one mainstream politician stand up and say enough is enough and bring these innocent people home to stop them dying for a hopeless cause. A girl without a Dad to prop up a corrupt puppet government in Kabul, was it really worth it Mr Blair? Mr Brown? Mr Cameron? what always astounds me is the fact that the warmongers who support these wars are never there to volunteer themselves or their own children for the cause, and afterall who would sacrifice themselves or their children for these wars? would Blair? would Brown? Cameron?

    Bring them home now.

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    I thought you were above using propaganda?

    I thought you were about using reason rather than just a sad face...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    I thought you were above using propaganda?

    I thought you were about using reason rather than just a sad face...
    Propaganda? this girl hasn't got a Dad now thanks to our political class - and if it takes sad but real pictures to reinforce the facts then i'll use them, it's easy to forget on the news when you simply hear 'another British soldier killed in action' - but maybe this will drum it home for some people.

    I know i'm guilty of that and this really brought it home for me.

    The best way to know if you are in support of a war (as in really supporting it) is if you ask yourself 'would I be prepared to die for that cause?' in which case you should go to your local military regiment and go and sign up, something which most warhawks don't seem to do much anymore despite the fact they are perfectly content with sending people half the way around the world to die in order to keep corrupt puppet governments standing.

    The Afghanistan issue is never discussed and is never talked about, time to talk about it until more people die for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Propaganda? this girl hasn't got a Dad now thanks to our political class - and if it takes sad but real pictures to reinforce the facts then i'll use them, it's easy to forget on the news when you simply hear 'another British soldier killed in action' - but maybe this will drum it home for some people.

    I know i'm guilty of that and this really brought it home for me.
    This afghan girl has lost her afghan father to the taliban:


    If our soldiers don't keep fighting there will be more children without parents

    /end random nonsense arguing about nothing because it's the same for everyone so pointless propoganda like this thread =

    NOTHING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    This afghan girl has lost her afghan father to the taliban:


    If our soldiers don't keep fighting there will be more children without parents

    /end random nonsense arguing about nothing because it's the same for everyone so pointless propoganda like this thread =

    NOTHING.
    But we know we can't defeat the Taliban and that we are being defeated in a scenario mirroring the British imperial occupation, the Soviet occupation, the Vietnam war; but why don't you go and volunteer to fight in Afghanistan if you believe that we can? or are you all words but no action just like most of the supporters of this war.

    ..and if your not old enough I do hope your planning to go over there when you do come of age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    But we know we can't defeat the Taliban and that we are being defeated in a scenario mirroring the British imperial occupation, the Soviet occupation, the Vietnam war; but why don't you go and volunteer to fight in Afghanistan if you believe that we can? or are you all words but no action just like most of the supporters of this war.

    ..and if your not old enough I do hope your planning to go over there when you do come of age.
    British Soldiers aren't obliged to go to Afghanistan, if they didn't want to go and instead wanted to live off of our taxes doing nothing then their in the wrong job. Every single soldier who was signed up to the armed forces either supports or does not care about the war in Afghanistan otherwise they would not have made that choice.

    Your argument is flawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    British Soldiers aren't obliged to go to Afghanistan, if they didn't want to go and instead wanted to live off of our taxes doing nothing then their in the wrong job. Every single soldier who was signed up to the armed forces either supports or does not care about the war in Afghanistan otherwise they would not have made that choice.

    Your argument is flawed.
    Or maybe they are in a job in order to pay for their houses back in the UK for their families to live in, or maybe they do support it - yet that doesn't make it right does it? so I ask again; why don't you sign up and go and serve over there? if you believe in it then you'll be prepared to go and do it.

    What are we doing over there? why are people dying and why are billions being spent on a cause that is long since dead (if it was ever alive)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Or maybe they are in a job in order to pay for their houses back in the UK for their families to live in, or maybe they do support it - yet that doesn't make it right does it? so I ask again; why don't you sign up and go and serve over there? if you believe in it then you'll be prepared to go and do it.

    What are we doing over there? why are people dying and why are billions being spent on a cause that is long since dead (if it was ever alive)?
    Well they obviously believe in it so it's fine, they believe they should be out there, THAT is what matters. Then can also seek other job professions if they don't, they're not tied into the army for the whole of their lives. Not everyone who believes in a war is cut out for war.


    Because if it is still achieving more good than harm then it's fine, which it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    Well they obviously believe in it so it's fine, they believe they should be out there, THAT is what matters. Then can also seek other job professions if they don't, they're not tied into the army for the whole of their lives. Not everyone who believes in a war is cut out for war.

    Because if it is still achieving more good than harm then it's fine, which it is.
    Oh yes it's fine they are dying for a cause that is dead, perfectly fine isn't it? its fine to prop up a corrupt regime, its fine to pretend that we are winning against the Taliban (which is now being joined by pro-independence Afghanistanis who are fed up of foreign occupation who also usually are the people who have just had their crops firebombed by the U.S. airforce).

    You say its achieving more good, what exactly is this war achieving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    You say its achieving more good, what exactly is this war achieving?
    It's hard to make a comparison when you cannot see both states, there is no telling what havoc would incur if we were to pull out of Afganistan. It is NOT as simple as just pulling out as you make it seem.
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