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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-shooting.html
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    Saudi Arabia sends troops into striken neighbour, Bahrain


    Pro-western Saudi Arabian troops enter pro-western Bahrain to put down protests

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    In total a convoy of eleven police 4x4s can be seen making their way through what appears to be a backstreet of the capital. Two people at the side of the road are then apparently shot by police gunmen standing up in the second and third vehicles. The footage was posted on the video-sharing site LiveLeak on March 16 and claims that the incident occurred the same day. This comes after what was described as a day of "annihilation" in Bahrain, when at least three protesters were killed after police, backed by tanks and helicopters, used tear gas, rubber bullets and live ammunition to clear crowds of anti-government protesters from Pearl Square in Manama.

    The government said two police officers were also killed, and a third later died from injuries received. Abdel Jalil Khalil, the head of Wefaq, the Shia opposition bloc, said: "This is a war of annihilation. This does not happen even in wars and this is not acceptable. I saw them [Bahrain security forces] fire live rounds in front of my own eyes."
    Where are the western powers now? what have the interventionalists got to say on this? turning a blind eye while our 'friends' in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain both shoot their own people and lockdown their cities against any form of protesting. Why have Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Oman not been given no fly zones. Interestingly enough, the Saudi government (which is in the pocket of the United States) is also helping to enforce the no fly zone over Libya.. to stop Gaddafi shooting at his own people with his almost non-existent airforce. Democracy is a one way street when it comes to America and the western world.

    Here's a list of some previous friends of the west who we armed; (it all went well didn't it?)

    Osama Bin Laden, Afghanistan.
    Saddam Hussein, Iraq.
    Hosni Mubarak, Egypt.
    Ben Ali, Tunisia.
    Gaddafi, Libya.

    Here's a sample of the friends we currently arm/do close deals with;

    King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia.
    King Khalifa, Bahrain.

    Thoughts? can anybody defend this hypocrisy? does anybody want to?
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    Hypocrisy at it's finest. I can't defend this to be honest. Disgusting to think they're supporting "democracy" in one country but not another.

    In my opinion support democracy in ALL (which I personally favour) or don't intervene in any. Don't pick and choose.

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    Ye because we should get involved in Iraq, Afghan, Tunisia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran and Bahrain all at the same time and possibly trigger WW3? good logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StefanWolves View Post
    Ye because we should get involved in Iraq, Afghan, Tunisia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran and Bahrain all at the same time and possibly trigger WW3? good logic.
    Well we're already involved in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.. along with having military bases in the following countries; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/US_military_bases_in_the_world.svg We might need more soldiers perhaps, but yourself and others seem willing for some overseas action so you could contribute to the war effort i'm sure?

    Still, even if the time for military action is not yet ripe which is the best excuse you could come up with to hide the hypocrisy of the west - why not simply cut off all links with these regimes in the name of human rights, freedom, safety and democracy?
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    Well they're not using planes to attack citizens, so what use would a no-fly zone be?

    The middle east can be a complicated issue, this however is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    Well they're not using planes to attack citizens, so what use would a no-fly zone be?

    The middle east can be a complicated issue, this however is not.
    The 'no fly zone' in Libya isn't really a no fly zone, its strategic bombing - something that could be done in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.


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    Dan, what the hell do you expect from us? Were aren't exactly going to invade every country where theres injustice. 100's of people are getting killed in libya, sorry but that seems like a more important cause than the three fatalities that have occured here. You can't expect us to be everywhere at once.

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    The 'no fly zone' in Libya isn't really a no fly zone, its strategic bombing - something that could be done in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.
    No, it's a no fly zone, dan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    Dan, what the hell do you expect from us? Were aren't exactly going to invade every country where theres injustice. 100's of people are getting killed in libya, sorry but that seems like a more important cause than the three fatalities that have occured here. You can't expect us to be everywhere at once.
    I expect nothing from ourselves, mainly because I don't view it as any of our business but also because we do not have the moral authority to enforce any of this considering that at the very same time, our 'friend' Saudi Arabia is entering Bahrain to help shoot protestors - whilst at the same time helping the west enforce the 'no fly zone' which is supposed to protect the people - save the Libyan people, but stuff the Saudis and Bahrainians?

    We can't be everywhere at once is something i'd like to see, but we are (see map).

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    No, it's a no fly zone, dan.
    ..and a strategic aerial bombardment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I expect nothing from ourselves, mainly because I don't view it as any of our business but also because we do not have the moral authority to enforce any of this considering that at the very same time, our 'friend' Saudi Arabia is entering Bahrain to help shoot protestors - whilst at the same time helping the west enforce the 'no fly zone' which is supposed to protect the people - save the Libyan people, but stuff the Saudis and Bahrainians?

    We can't be everywhere at once is something i'd like to see, but we are (see map).



    ..and a strategic aerial bombardment.

    http://www.voanews.com/english/news/...118324124.html
    'And' theres the key word. so, it is a no fly zone.


    Stop latching onto the Saudi Arabia card, Face facts, we can't afford to go everywhere, and wheter anyone likes it or not, there are more benefits for us in helping libya. I will admit that. but the fact that we are helping them is good and well deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    'And' theres the key word. so, it is a no fly zone.
    Well technically any military campaign involves a no fly zone, but as 'no fly zone' sounds nice and harmless thats why we're using it, to avoid discussing the fact that we are strategically bombarding Libya and thus becoming involved in yet another war.

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    Stop latching onto the Saudi Arabia card, Face facts, we can't afford to go everywhere, and wheter anyone likes it or not, there are more benefits for us in helping libya. I will admit that. but the fact that we are helping them is good and well deserved.
    We can't afford to go anywhere, have you seen the debts?

    I don't see the benefits of involving ourselves in Libya; more soldiers could end up in body bags, loss of oil contracts if we don't now take ground action, more hatred stirred up in the middle east against us, a failed state and unstable region just below Europe, reconstruction aid would be needed.


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