First President in US history endorses gay marriage and we don't have a thread on it?

[HotelUser]

This is Habbox Forum right? I'm shocked!



My apologies if this has already been posted.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well at least he is speaking from a personal point of view and not from the point of view of intending to impose it on U.S. states when 31 states (including North Carolina last week and the left-wing state of California) have rejected it in public referendums, with no states endorsing it via a referendum to date. *Assuming* Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee (and no, I dislike Romney as much as I do Obama as they're both pretty much identical) - Obama has only hurt his re-election prospects in pushing Christian voters towards Romney who they hadn't been all that keen on due to his Mormon background but whom will side with him on social issues such as this.

[efq]

It really annoys me that this needs to make news. There are gay people in this world, they shouldn't need to ask to be married or have to run somewhere where it is legal.

They have just as much right as anybody else. Jeez, imagine if every man and woman who got married had to go through this.

I don't care what anyone says, its pure discrimination and there isn't any argument in this case.

[-:Undertaker:-]

It really annoys me that this needs to make news. There are gay people in this world, they shouldn't need to ask to be married or have to run somewhere where it is legal.

They have just as much right as anybody else. Jeez, imagine if every man and woman who got married had to go through this.

I don't care what anyone says, its pure discrimination and there isn't any argument in this case.

I speak from my personal views of marriage here and I have to say, I object to it being called 'discrimination' in the way in which you seek to portray it as - we discriminate all the time between eachother, I do it everytime I go the toilet in the local ASDA because I am different to females hence why we have different toilets. Those who support marriage and see how important marriage is in western society to the traditional family wish to defend marriage based on those principles, it is not a case of "lets just not allow gays to get married for the sake of it". Indeed, a great deal of people agree with me hence why it has been rejected by 32 U.S. states and passed by none in referenda.

There seems to be a curious misunderstanding of what marriage is, it is not a romantic gesture - it is an age old institution between man and woman which serves the purpose of the family.

[efq]

I speak from my personal views of marriage here and I have to say, I object to it being called 'discrimination' in the way in which you seek to portray it as - we discriminate all the time between eachother, I do it everytime I go the toilet in the local ASDA because I am different to females hence why we have different toilets. Those who support marriage and see how important marriage is in western society to the traditional family wish to defend marriage based on those principles, it is not a case of "lets just not allow gays to get married for the sake of it". Indeed, a great deal of people agree with me hence why it has been rejected by 32 U.S. states and passed by none in referenda.

There seems to be a curious misunderstanding of what marriage is, it is not a romantic gesture - it is an age old institution between man and woman which serves the purpose of the family.

Yes, but I just find it ridiculous how you can say a woman and man can get married just like that and a gay marriage is either frowned upon or illegal. If I were gay I would be fighting for normal marriage to be banned.

There is no harm whatsoever in allowing them to have a human right which everyone else has.

Gay people can have a family too. In fact gay people are more likely to have a better family and are better parents than those who aren't gay.

[HotelUser]

It really annoys me that this needs to make news. There are gay people in this world, they shouldn't need to ask to be married or have to run somewhere where it is legal.

They have just as much right as anybody else. Jeez, imagine if every man and woman who got married had to go through this.

I don't care what anyone says, its pure discrimination and there isn't any argument in this case.

I think marriage should be gender irrelevant and I believe this is quite substancial news because it signifies that in the future there will be better equality sooner rather than later.

Well at least he is speaking from a personal point of view and not from the point of view of intending to impose it on U.S. states when 31 states (including North Carolina last week and the left-wing state of California) have rejected it in public referendums, with no states endorsing it via a referendum to date. *Assuming* Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee (and no, I dislike Romney as much as I do Obama as they're both pretty much identical) - Obama has only hurt his re-election prospects in pushing Christian voters towards Romney who they hadn't been all that keen on due to his Mormon background but whom will side with him on social issues such as this.

Assuming Mitt Romney is the nominee is pretty safe right about now, as for you saying Romney and Obama are pretty much identical I don't think that's true at all and I think that's evident enough in looking at the simple differences between democrats and republicans (they're certainly not the same economy wise).

[-:Undertaker:-]

Assuming Mitt Romney is the nominee is pretty safe right about now, as for you saying Romney and Obama are pretty much identical I don't think that's true at all and I think that's evident enough in looking at the simple differences between democrats and republicans (they're certainly not the same economy wise).

Are they not? Republicans often skate over that it was actually George W. Bush who began the bailouts and not Obama who they now rally against for doing exactly the same thing. What else? both parties refuse to commit to any actual cuts to government spending with Romney rejecting the Paul $1tn plan last week and both parties being committed to the Federal Reserve system.

I'm sure I could find plenty more, but in election time people should look at past actions and voting records as opposed to rhetoric which is simply designed to play to each party base & rouse the party faithful.

[FlyingJesus]

Nice of him to say this with elections coming up when he's spent the last 4 years stating that he thinks marriage should be a union between a man and a woman

Yes, Obama and Romney are extremely similar in political terms, but Obama will probably win the election because (and this is a genuine sentiment I've seen displayed in horrific amounts) people are willing to vote him as "the devil we know"

[FlyingJesus]

Sorry for double post but just gonna leave this here...

Obama: Sends drone strikes throughout Yemen, killing innocent civilians.
Obama: Sends drone strikes throughout Pakistan, killing innocent civilians.
Obama: Sends drone strikes throughout Somalia, killing innocent civilians.
Obama: Sends drone strikes throughout Afghanistan, killing innocent civilians.
Obama: Sends drone strikes throughout Iraq, killing innocent civilians.
Obama: Puts crippling trade sanctions on Iran to provoke another war, similar to events leading up to Pearl Harbor.
Obama: Signs NDAA, which allows for the indefinite detainment of US citizens on US soil, without a trial or charges.
Obama: Specifically instructs Congressional Committee writing 2012 NDAA to expand the aforementioned powers in the bill.
Obama: Expands and appoints executive agencies to bypass Congress and extend the powers of the executive branch even more than Bush.
Obama: Uses millions of tax dollars for personal vacations.
Obama: Assassinates two American citizens, one being only sixteen years old, without any due process.
Obama: Campaigns on closing Guantanamo Bay. Doesn't close Guantanamo Bay.
Obama: Calls for the arrest of alleged whistle-blower PFC Bradley Manning for allegedly leaking video footage of American soldiers killing Iraqi civilians ruthlessly and illegally.
Obama: Campaigns on transparency in government. Denies more FOIA requests than all previous administrations combined.
Obama: Speaks out against money in politics. Receives more money from Wall Street than any politician in history.
Obama: Endorses the torture of aforementioned Bradley Manning for eighteen months at Quantico before he's even charged with a crime.
Obama: Calls for excessive Pell grants, which inflate the price of college tuition for everyone.
Obama: Says he will not sign ACTA. Signs ACTA.
Obama: Signs the NDRP Act, allowing for the nationalization of any natural resource, product, factory, industry, business, or property on american soil in peacetime.
Obama: Announces end of American occupation of Iraq. Leaves 10,000 troops in Iraq.
Obama: Says he supports gay marriage.
Teens, "liberal" bloggers, and other people who don't read: WOO VOTE OBAMA

[Mathew]

Well that's got me thinking; I never thought there would be such drastic differences between the USA and the UK. There'd be uproar if "Gay marriage" (or any variant thereof) was rejected in the UK, but it's just the norm over there. Interesting.