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    Default Apple's snarky Samsung post not good enough for British judge

    http://www.latimes.com/business/tech...,6877841.story
    We think the British-court-ordered notice on Apple's website that says Samsung did not copy Apple's patented tablet design is hilarious, but the judge isn't laughing.A British court has given Apple 24 hours to remove the statement from its website, and 48 hours to post a new one, the BBC reports.
    Apple asked for 14 days to write a new statement, but the court refused.
    "I would like to see the head of Apple make an affidavit setting out the technical difficulties," said Judge Robin Jacob, Bloomberg reports. "...This is Apple. They cannot put something on their website?"
    The original statement, ordered by the High Court of Justice of England on Oct. 18, was supposed to be a simple one that clarifies the court's finding that the design of three of Samsung's Galaxy Tablet computers does not infringe on Apple's patented design.
    Apple, complied, but with a twist. In the original notice posted on its website, the company lays out the court's findings in the first paragraph, but also includes some additional paragraphs that display a certain...um...feisty attitude.
    The statement includes two paragraphs pulled directly from the court's ruling that say that Apple's design is cooler than the Samsung design.
    The company then goes on to say that a German court found that Samsung did copy the iPad design. And that a U.S. jury found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple's design.
    The original statement concludes:
    So while the U.K. court did not find Samsung guilty of infringement, other courts have recognized that in the course of creating its Galaxy tablet, Samsung willfully copied Apple's far more popular iPad.
    "I'm at a loss that a company such as Apple would do this," Jacob said, according to the BBC. "It is a plain breach of the order."
    In addition to writing a new notice, the court has ordered Apple to link to the new notice on its homepage. The company must also publish notices with details of the ruling in British newspapers and trade magazines, the BBC reports.
    Personally, I find this hilarious .

    On a more serious note, although I think all these companies are making a complete mess with these patent suits - I find this judge's ruling to be completely outrageous. I think his ruling is a disgusting infringement of freedom of speech. Shouldn't Apple be allowed to have the opinion that Samsung copied them whether it's the popular opinion or not? The judge told Apple to post something on their website. No government owns Apple, so how dare a government proceed to tell Apple exactly what to post on their website. Apple believes Samsung did infringe their patent, but now because of the British government users would be lead to believe that Apple believes the opposite. The internet should in my opinion be a haven of freedom of speech. I couldn't be more disgusted in the British government for allowing rulings which cause the British government to directly meddle with content on the Internet (which they do not own, should not own, and have no more business screwing with than any other government).

    Not only that, but what in the heck happened to freedom of freaking press? The British government told Apple to post something on their website and Apple did, but Apple also posted saying they disagree with the decision. Since when has it ever been illegal to disagree with a government's course of action?! Perhaps David Cameron should get a judge to instruct every website exactly what to say and what not to say about the Conservative party :rolleyes:.
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    Was only time they were going to get made to change it. Once I read it I did wonder if that was even acceptable to what the court wanted. I do love how they wanted 14 days to change it once they took it down but looks like the judge denied that and want it up as soon as the old one is taken down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    Was only time they were going to get made to change it. Once I read it I did wonder if that was even acceptable to what the court wanted. I do love how they wanted 14 days to change it once they took it down but looks like the judge denied that and want it up as soon as the old one is taken down.
    Yeah. With the 14 day thing Apple is being petty about it, but I think this goes beyond the consumer technology industry - what really worries me is how much this issue becomes a freedom of press and freedom of speech problem. I think that judge might of caused a very slippery slope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser View Post
    Yeah. With the 14 day thing Apple is being petty about it, but I think this goes beyond the consumer technology industry - what really worries me is how much this issue becomes a freedom of press and freedom of speech problem. I think that judge might of caused a very slippery slope.
    There's nothing wrong with what the judge asked Apple to do it. They just want it to be clear and no snarky comments aimed at Samsung.


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    There's nothing wrong with what the judge asked Apple to do it. They just want it to be clear and no snarky comments aimed at Samsung.
    So even if you disagree with a corporation's opinion they're not allowed to have one of their own, and it's perfectly fine for any government to tell a publicly owned company that not only are they not allowed to talk about their opinion, but that they have to broadcast the exact opinion of the government instead?
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    I don't care much for the comment but they should have just cooperated and put a simple notice but being Apple they had to put a smug remark. The thing that makes me angry are some of the patents Apple have though and imo really holds back any future phones from evolving

    - They have patent for a rectangular phone with rounded edges
    - They have a patent for a speaker on the front of the phone, WHAT?
    - They have patent for bounce back scrolling
    - They have patent for pinch to zoom
    - They have patents for edge to edge glass screen

    I mean c'mon how can you patent some of this ****
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    Quote Originally Posted by Futz View Post
    I don't care much for the comment but they should have just cooperated and put a simple notice but being Apple they had to put a smug remark. The thing that makes me angry are some of the patents Apple have though and imo really holds back any future phones from evolving

    - They have patent for a rectangular phone with rounded edges
    - They have a patent for a speaker on the front of the phone, WHAT?
    - They have patent for bounce back scrolling
    - They have patent for pinch to zoom
    - They have patents for edge to edge glass screen

    I mean c'mon how can you patent some of this ****
    It's annoying how every tech company screws with patents (Microsoft is a latest victim of such behaviour).

    It would of been better if Apple put above the statement something like: "We at Apple believe us being forced to make this statement violates freedom of speech and freedom of press."
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser View Post
    So even if you disagree with a corporation's opinion they're not allowed to have one of their own, and it's perfectly fine for any government to tell a publicly owned company that not only are they not allowed to talk about their opinion, but that they have to broadcast the exact opinion of the government instead?
    I wish you stopped saying the government and even mentioned David Cameron in your first post. It's the justice system and it's the judge who decided they wanted it changed, not the PM or MPs. I am just saying the whole message wasn't about putting snarky comments aimed at Samsung. That's why they want it changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    I wish you stopped saying the government and even mentioned David Cameron in your first post. It's the justice system - I am just saying the whole message wasn't about putting snarky comments aimed at Samsung. That's why they want it changed.
    To be fair I said David Cameron should ask a judge, and either your government or supreme court (if it works like it does in Canada) could both stop this crap from happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser View Post
    To be fair I said David Cameron should ask a judge, and either your government or supreme court (if it works like it does in Canada) could both stop this crap from happening.
    I would expect our PM has more bigger issues to deal with than giving a crap about Apple and Samsung crying over each other.


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