Ukraine on the verge of disintegration

[-:Undertaker:-]

http://rt.com/news/thousands-gather-...n-ukraine-252/

Ukraine on verge of split following coup

The public gathering of deputies from local councils of southeastern Ukraine have declared they are taking responsibility for constitutional order in the country, as thousands of people have assembled in the city of Kharkov.

“We, the local authorities of all levels, the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Sevastopol region decided to take responsibility for ensuring the constitutional order and the rights of citizens on their territory,” their resolution said.

The Kharkov public gathering has announced a number of measures local authorities should take in response to the developments in Kiev. They should take full responsibility for all decision in respective regions with no regard to authorities in Kiev until the constitutional order in Ukraine is restored, a resolution of the gathering says.

They authorities should take measures to protect arms depots and prevent their take-over and looting by radical opposition activists.

The deputies have criticized the decision adopted by the Parliament (Verkhovna Rada) in the last few days, saying they are raising doubts about its legitimacy.

The gathering says the legislative acts may have been passed involuntary and are neither legitimate nor lawful.

The resent decisions of the national parliament were taken in conditions “of terror, threats of violence and death,” the resolution says.

Meanwhile, citizens are encouraged to form local militias to protect public order. Local authorities are to fund and support those militias.

Over 10, 000 people have gathered at the city’s Sport Palace, where a total of 3,477 deputies have been holding a meeting.

The situation remains generally quiet with the crowd being partly in good spirits and partly subdued and concerned, Itar-Tass news agency reports from the Palace.

“3, 477 deputies from local councils in southeastern Ukraine have gathered. We have gathered here not to separate the country, but to save it,” the regional governor, Mikhail Dobkin, told the crowd.

The head of the Kharkov administration, Gennady Kernes, has called the public gathering “an attempt by qualified deputies from the east of the country to stabilize the situation.”

"My colleagues and I have been personally threatened. But today we have gathered to change the situation,” he said. “We will not give in; we will fight till the end.”

The statement has been echoed by Rada’s Party of Regions deputy, Vadim Kolesnichenko, who also said that politicians are being threatened and “their families are basically hostages [of the situation].”

Russia sent several officials in the capacity of observers to the gathering, including Aleksey Pushkov, the head of Russian parliamentary commission on foreign affairs, Mikhail Markelov, Pushkov’s counterpart in the Council of Federation, the upper chamber of the parliament, and several governors from regions in eastern Russia.

“The decisions taken here are positive and concrete. What is important is that everything voiced here was implemented in the interests of the Ukrainian people and the entire Ukraine. What Ukraine needs now is common sense and a survival instinct,” said Evgeny Savchenko, Governor of Russia’s Belgorod region, which borders Ukraine, commenting on the Kharkov gathering.

Meanwhile, parliament (Verkhovna Rada) is holding a new emergency session on Saturday. While the whereabouts of Ukrainian President Yanukovich remain uncertain, opposition leaders passed the law on the return to the 2004 Constitution without the president's signature.

They have also elected Aleksandr Turchinov the new head speaker of the Supreme Rada. He will be taking over the cabinet’s work until the formation of a coalition government.

Among new appointees is Arsen Avakov, who was named the acting head of the Ministry of Interior of Ukraine.

With 233 voting in favor, the Ukrainian Rada has ruled to free the former PM Yulia Timoshenko from prison.

A day after Yanukovich agreed to opposition demands and signed an EU brokered deal, his residence in Kiev was abandoned and left virtually unguarded. Some media reports speculate that the president has left for Kharkov in the east of the country.

Another year, another failed multicultural state.

Thoughts?

[lemons]

undertaker please give me a SIMPLIFIED reason for all the violence in ukraine

when i mean simplified i mean something a year 6 student can understand

[-:Undertaker:-]

undertaker please give me a SIMPLIFIED reason for all the violence in ukraine

when i mean simplified i mean something a year 6 student can understand

The Government was more pro-Russian and cancelled a deal with the EU before Christmas. The people in the West of the Ukraine (who do not like Russia due to the history of the area) view themselves as more western and thus were pissed off. Kiev is in the west, so Kiev has been under siege by those wanting the Government to sign closer relations with the EU. Today/yesterday the protestors have managed to force the Government to collapse and for the President to flee the capital.

Those in the East are more culturally Russian and obviously favour closer relations with Russia, so it's looking likely that the East of the country will seperate from the new pro-EU government in the west (Kiev) of the country.

So basically the west of the Ukraine don't like Russia and the east of Ukraine do.

[lemons]

thanks undertaker!

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ukraine is an irrelevant country anyway, the only time u hear from them is in eurovision

[-:Undertaker:-]

A video here of statues of the founder of Soviet socialism/marxism, Lenin, being smashed to the ground in Ukraine. A great sight to behold.

[The Don]

The Government was more pro-Russian and cancelled a deal with the EU before Christmas. The people in the West of the Ukraine (who do not like Russia due to the history of the area) view themselves as more western and thus were pissed off. Kiev is in the west, so Kiev has been under siege by those wanting the Government to sign closer relations with the EU. Today/yesterday the protestors have managed to force the Government to collapse and for the President to flee the capital.

Those in the East are more culturally Russian and obviously favour closer relations with Russia, so it's looking likely that the East of the country will seperate from the new pro-EU government in the west (Kiev) of the country.

So basically the west of the Ukraine don't like Russia and the east of Ukraine do.

You also missed out the whole entire part about the president slowly giving himself more and more power through legislation which would eventually turn Ukraine into a dictatorship.

[God]

You also missed out the whole entire part about the president slowly giving himself more and more power through legislation which would eventually turn Ukraine into a dictatorship.

Lol wish people in the Usa would notice that with their gov't too.



OT: Im really happy to see that the Ukrainians got what they wanted.

[karter]

A more accurate map.

OT: Im really happy to see that the Ukrainians got what they wanted.

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Pretty sure nobody wants riots and people getting killed in protests

[-:Undertaker:-]

You also missed out the whole entire part about the president slowly giving himself more and more power through legislation which would eventually turn Ukraine into a dictatorship.

It sounded like you were describing President Obama there.

But so western media say in regards to the centralising of power. I don't know enough about them claims to make a judgement, I would say though that in countries like the Ukraine that sort of thing is normal and if I am correct - the pro-western opposition did a similar thing a few years ago.

[xxMATTGxx]

Thought I would share this in what I came across yesterday. Pictures of President's private palace in Ukraine which contains some of the following: Private Zoo, cars, peacocks, fake galleon etc etc.

http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1007568.html