UKIP

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UKIP.

So I was reading some of the things UKIP stands for and what they plan to do, but I came across something very displeasing to me. Seeing UKIP is more than likely going to be voted into office.

Here are just some of the ways we will save your money:


Ɣ End wasteful EU and UK subsidies to ‘renewable energy scams’,
such as wind turbines and solar farms


Ɣ Sell unused state-owned property and assets

Well, The USA only has around 100 Years supply of Methane (Natural Gas) in ground, so I'm unsure about the UK, but cutting Green Energy subsidies kinda leaves you with an unstable energy sector? Yes you may have Fracking... but after sucking the Methane from that, what else do you have in the near future?

Also selling off Crown land isn't the way to go. Selling this land to private corporations removes this land from the people for short term gain. Not the right thing to do.



Anyways ya theres my rant.




Also someone please tag undertaker to this thread, as I've heard him talk about UKIP supporting the idea of removing the privately owned Central Bank and replacing it with a Publicly Owned Central Bank.

Is this true, as my main reasons searching what UKIP stands for was this specific reason.


Anyways ye Idk why I made this thread

[MKR&*42]

@-:Undertaker:-;

(As per request of the thread creator, aka not offtopic.)

[-:Undertaker:-]

Renewable energy doesn't work, the UK sits on 300-years worth of coal supplies and has also promising amounts of gas and shale gas, not to mention with the possibility of fracking. If the UK wishes to reduce carbon output (a notion I regard as absurd) then nuclear would be the best way to go along with a mix of clean coal and continued exploration of the North Sea. From my recollection, Ukip seem to favour nuclear energy along with fracking.

Secondly, Ukip don't propose selling off Crown Estate Land. The plan for Crown land and the Crown Estate - in the 2010 manifesto at least - was that the annual grant to the Royal Family would be ended in return for giving back permanently part of the Crown Estate profits. So in future, say the Crown Estate made say £300m a year - the Royal Family would then be entitled to 5% or something of it a year, that'd remove the controversy of the annual grant system that arises every year whereby the Monarchy is funded by HM Government.

In terms of sweeping to power, far from it at this point. And the new manifesto hasn't been released yet for 2015, it will be over summer.

as I've heard him talk about UKIP supporting the idea of removing the privately owned Central Bank and replacing it with a Publicly Owned Central Bank.

I really hope that is in the new manifesto this summer, hopefully the libertarian wing of Ukip will push for it.

I know Rand Paul over in the US is pushing at auditing the Federal Reserve in his potential Presidential campaign for 2016.

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Is the Bank of England not publicly owned...

[The Don]

UKIP.

So I was reading some of the things UKIP stands for and what they plan to do, but I came across something very displeasing to me. Seeing UKIP is more than likely going to be voted into office.



Well, The USA only has around 100 Years supply of Methane (Natural Gas) in ground, so I'm unsure about the UK, but cutting Green Energy subsidies kinda leaves you with an unstable energy sector? Yes you may have Fracking... but after sucking the Methane from that, what else do you have in the near future?

Also selling off Crown land isn't the way to go. Selling this land to private corporations removes this land from the people for short term gain. Not the right thing to do.



Anyways ya theres my rant.




Also someone please tag undertaker to this thread, as I've heard him talk about UKIP supporting the idea of removing the privately owned Central Bank and replacing it with a Publicly Owned Central Bank.

Is this true, as my main reasons searching what UKIP stands for was this specific reason.


Anyways ye Idk why I made this thread

Ukip is full of morons that don't believe in global warming (even though virtually all reputable scientists agree on it, but thats an argument for another day) so it's not surprising they would have us scrap all the improvements we've been making recently.



and no, ukip aren't likely to get into power.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Ukip is full of morons that don't believe in global warming (even though virtually all reputable scientists agree on it, but thats an argument for another day) so it's not surprising they would have us scrap all the improvements we've been making recently.

Energy policy isn't planned on the basis of what you'd like to believe, it's planned on the basis of what works and what is cheapest.

and no, ukip aren't likely to get into power.

Not just yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadia...election,_1993

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Is the Bank of England not publicly owned...

DING DING DING WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

Anyways yes the Bank of England is privatly owned, and infact is a buisness which has no accountability to the English People. They are a for Profit operation and who ever controls the money, effectively controls the people. You think Bill Gates is rich? Every single pound is an I-O-U to a Private corporation who can print money.

Also everyone, you should meet your Rulers. So take a quick google search to find out who owns your Central Bank.


This isn't something just happening in England, Almost all countries have privately owned central banks.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Is the Bank of England not publicly owned...

It's so-called 'independent' which I have a problem with due to the fact that as monetary policy is so important, our elected sovereign parliament should be in control of monetary policy and held accountable for monetary policy.

DING DING DING WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

Anyways yes the Bank of England is privatly owned, and infact is a buisness which has no accountability to the English People. They are a for Profit operation and who ever controls the money, effectively controls the people. You think Bill Gates is rich? Every single pound is an I-O-U to a Private corporation who can print money.

Also everyone, you should meet your Rulers. So take a quick google search to find out who owns your Central Bank.


This isn't something just happening in England, Almost all countries have privately owned central banks.

Have you read 'End the Fed' by Ron Paul? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_the_Fed

I haven't read that book, but he's talked about it in his other books which I have got. You seem pretty interested in it anyway.

[God]

Have you read 'End the Fed' by Ron Paul? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_the_Fed

I haven't read that book, but he's talked about it in his other books which I have got. You seem pretty interested in it anyway.

Listened to some of his speeches, and honestly, I would vote for him.

I'll have to check out that btw

[The Don]

Energy policy isn't planned on the basis of what you'd like to believe, it's planned on the basis of what works and what is cheapest.

No no no, that's how you think is should be planned, quite different from how it is actually planned.