Gender change as a child

[Richie]

Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt support 7year old Shiloh's desire to be called "John".

http://www.wthr.com/story/27704067/a...be-called-john


I am having a debate with @Red; about this topic, I said if I had a daughter of that age and she said she wanted to cutt her hair off and dress in boys clothes that I wouldn't allow it.

I know a lot of you obviously agree with the child's decission but for me, that child can make massive decissions that will affect their life when they're older, I am fine with that but I'm not allowing an infant to make massive decissions like that.

If my daughter still has these thoughts as a teenager id be accepting and would support them but as an infant I think those decissions are something they shouldn't be allowed make themselves.


Am I just ignorant or do I have a valid point?

If your daughter came to you at the age of 7 and said she wants to be the opposite gender would you accept that and go out and boy clothes / other boy like features to support them?



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[Lewis]

I agree, wait until they're a bit older into their late teens. If they still think that way, then that's there choice and I wouldn't stop them. But a seven year old can't make a choice like that, especially imagining all the bullying she'd probably get in school...

I see nothing wrong with gender change as long as you're not making the decision at the age of seven

[Kyle]

better to allow it and moderate the behaviour so that it doesn't get to a point where it's going to be problematic than to outright refuse to cater to what the child wants. certainly too young to request any sort of actual gender realignment but to want to dress up in a different way and be called by a different name is perfectly acceptable imo. probably just doing it to get rid of the name shiloh tbh.

[Jurv]

bullying shouldnt even come into consideration lewis, she's not doing anything wrong

i completely agree with it as long as there's no immediate surgery, she looks cute as hell in a suit anyway

[MKR&*42]

The child should be allowed (to an extent) to act as much of a boy as they desire. Obviously don't consider sex reassignment surgery for them at all, but as long as the child is comfortable dressing up and acting like a boy etc. i can't see why a parent shouldn't allow it.

[Empired]

bullying shouldnt even come into consideration lewis, she's not doing anything wrong

i completely agree with it as long as there's no immediate surgery, she looks cute as hell in a suit anyway

We know that bullying shouldn't come into this jurv, but bullies are pretty much always ignorant little ***** who are afraid of change or anything they don't understand. Therefore if a girl suddenly turns up to their school in boy's clothes and has changed her name to John, she will be bullied. I know it shouldn't happen, but it does.

The child should be allowed (to an extent) to act as much of a boy as they desire. Obviously don't consider sex reassignment surgery for them at all, but as long as the child is comfortable dressing up and acting like a boy etc. i can't see why a parent shouldn't allow it.

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If my daughter decided she thought she was actually a boy, I would support that. She can wear boys' clothes and call herself John but I will not let her make any permanent decisions until she's (for argument's sake I'm going to keep calling the child a she) older. So I will not let her legally change her name until she's old enough to do it herself (16 I think?), no surgery obv. All the changes she wants to make must be reversible in case she changes her mind.

[buttons]

Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt support 7year old Shiloh's desire to be called "John".

http://www.wthr.com/story/27704067/a...be-called-john


I am having a debate with @Red; about this topic, I said if I had a daughter of that age and she said she wanted to cutt her hair off and dress in boys clothes that I wouldn't allow it.

I know a lot of you obviously agree with the child's decission but for me, that child can make massive decissions that will affect their life when they're older, I am fine with that but I'm not allowing an infant to make massive decissions like that.

If my daughter still has these thoughts as a teenager id be accepting and would support them but as an infant I think those decissions are something they shouldn't be allowed make themselves.


Am I just ignorant or do I have a valid point?

If your daughter came to you at the age of 7 and said she wants to be the opposite gender would you accept that and go out and boy clothes / other boy like features to support them?



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I agree, wait until they're a bit older into their late teens. If they still think that way, then that's there choice and I wouldn't stop them. But a seven year old can't make a choice like that, especially imagining all the bullying she'd probably get in school...

I see nothing wrong with gender change as long as you're not making the decision at the age of seven

she's only cutting her hair and changing her clothes so i don't see the problem? i would agree with waiting for surgery but someone said it best, when a woman said "they can't make decision at that age", another woman replied "but they make the decision to kill themselves" which is spot on. which would you rather have?
if my child wanted to wear 'opposite sex clothes' and play with 'opposite sex' toys, i would not see the problem at all. children do often say they want to be a boy/girl or an airplane or something then change when they're old so i would agree with waiting until they're about 12 and see how they feel then but wearing different gendered clothings or toys is the least u can do for them

[mrwoooooooo]

That's what happens when you name your child Shiloh :rolleyes:

Edited by mdport. (Forum Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly!

[Kimmy]

But then she'll be stuck in her mid-teens trying to figure out who she really is and going through massive change, when it could be well established when she's the younger age with the aid of her parents; of which most teens these days lack.

[Lewis]

she's only cutting her hair and changing her clothes so i don't see the problem? i would agree with waiting for surgery but someone said it best, when a woman said "they can't make decision at that age", another woman replied "but they make the decision to kill themselves" which is spot on. which would you rather have?
if my child wanted to wear 'opposite sex clothes' and play with 'opposite sex' toys, i would not see the problem at all. children do often say they want to be a boy/girl or an airplane or something then change when they're old so i would agree with waiting until they're about 12 and see how they feel then but wearing different gendered clothings or toys is the least u can do for them

I wouldn't mind them having the opposite sex toys. Nor would I mind opposite sex clothes, as long as it wasn't noticeable to other people for the own child's sake. They can do whatever they want when they're an adult and I wouldn't mind, it's there choice, but there certainly should be limits to avoid going through torment and bullying at a young age at school or wherever else. No one should really know about it during such a young age especially.

That's what I basically meant. If today's world was a bit more accepting, which it should be, then in my opinion I wouldn't really mind although any big decisions still should be made as an adult.