Mexican flu outbreak [Archive] - Page 2

Slowpoke

28-04-2009, 04:53 PM

They should be keeping the people who have it quarantined because it's not as if they are going to stay indoors and have no human contact. And there are selfish people in the world who would deliberately try and spread it if they got it because they have nothing better to do in their lives. If it's so life threatening and dangerous then maybe the government could actually do something with the people who have it rather than just panicking live on TV and scaring the viewers.

All it takes is for an elderly, young or already sick person to contract it and deaths will occur since there's no vaccination or prevention methods at the moment.

Georgie-Best

28-04-2009, 05:07 PM

Do you wanna shut up mate?
The World Health Organization has put the world pandemic level up to 4. It isn't over reaction.
EDIT: Sorry for double post guys.
I will bump this thread in 3/4 weeks and you will look a muppet. Swine flu is nothing.

efq

28-04-2009, 05:26 PM

Wrong, it only kills healthy people between 20-45 years old. Elderly and young are not at fatal risk.

Kardan

28-04-2009, 05:33 PM

People are over reacting way too much :$

Twist

28-04-2009, 05:36 PM

I will bump this thread in 3/4 weeks and you will look a muppet. Swine flu is nothing.
Just like your thread about Berbaflop scoring more than Robinho was bumped? And you said you'd bump it at the end of the season and laugh at everyone?
Idiot. Saying swine flu is "nothing" aswell is just ridiculous.

Plank

28-04-2009, 05:43 PM

I don't think we have anything to worry about. No-one outside Mexico is dying, so the virus that has spread can't be that harmful.

-:Undertaker:-

28-04-2009, 05:57 PM

Hiro

28-04-2009, 05:58 PM

Plank

28-04-2009, 06:19 PM

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Technology/Swine-Flu-Stephen-Fry-Warns-Of-Twitter-Panic-As-False-Rumours-And-Spam-About-Virus-Outbreak-Grows/Article/200904415270683?lpos=Technology_First_Home_Article _Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15270683_Swine_Flu%3A_Stephen_Fry_Warn s_Of_Twitter_Panic_As_False_Rumours_And_Spam_About _Virus_Outbreak_Grows_

Swine Flu: Rumours Spread Panic On Web
Web users are being urged not to spread panic about swine flu as online gossip mounts and experts identify a spike in outbreak-related spam.

However, if you have looked online for information concerning the outbreak, you would have assumed the sky is falling, the world is about to end, and we are all about to grow trotters and have curly tails emerging from our backsides.

Really? Internet? Forums? Social Networks? Rumours? Overreactions? False information? I never noticed.

DaveTaylor

28-04-2009, 06:25 PM

Mehhh I am off to Peru in 8 weeks time, see what happens now. :/

efq

28-04-2009, 06:36 PM

I wish it would wipe everyone out so we don't get annoying topics like this one. All I can see post after post from this topic is arguments, someone practically e-bullied Visa too.

Oh and Voiding: "On April 27, a 7-year-old, a 24-year-old, and a 3-month-old in North Texas were confirmed to have swine flu." Please get facts before posting that it is only affecting 20-40 year olds.. (all 3 are recovering).
If your don't like these topics then don't click on the thread? Simple.

Oh yeah, they may have been affected but the chances are 20-45 are more likely, understood?

Unlike what usually happens in cases of influenza, which inflict a greater number of deaths between the elderly and the children, this strain resulted in deaths only in people between the ages of 25 and 50.

Rock

28-04-2009, 06:42 PM

I heard its spread up to Edinburgh??

Plank

28-04-2009, 06:50 PM

More updates..

2 'suspected' (I use the term very loosely) swine flu deaths in L.A.

California have declared a state of emergency.

-Heart

28-04-2009, 06:53 PM

More updates..

2 'suspected' (I use the term very loosely) swine flu deaths in L.A.

California have declared a state of emergency.

I change my previous post about nuking Mexico to "Nuke Mexico & USA".

-:Undertaker:-

28-04-2009, 07:12 PM

Hundreds of children are suspected of having swine flu and Arnie has declared a state of emergency in California.

jackass

28-04-2009, 07:15 PM

http://uploadpicz.com/images/TA4VRZI.png

Niall!

28-04-2009, 07:20 PM

I will laugh when all of you who said "it's just the government over reacting again like bird flu" are all dead or have swine flu. Just because they were mistaken once about a pandemic doesn't mean they can't be right this time.

I wonder if you'd do the same if Ebola got on a plane.

alexxxxx

28-04-2009, 07:28 PM

I don't see how people are overeacting to this, its spread worldwide in just a few days, can swap from human to human and is rapidly spreading everyday. Gordon Brown has apparently said hes doing "everything his government can" - I think its time to worry after Gordon Brown says theres no need to panic, afterall we were supposed to have confidence in his economic policy and looks what that turned into.

It's people like you who stop politics from working properly. If there is a crisis, the government need to work efficiently and productivly, not use it to take political swipes at each other. I hope the EU will take steps to turn back flights and ships that have visited Mexico.

The WHO has said that in the worst case scenario, 40% of the UK could be in danger. We have enough anti viral drugs to treat 50%, (and not everyone needs them, only the ones with healthy immune systems need them, as virus' like this often make the immune system overreact and attack our own cells) The USA, the worlds 'richest' country, does not have that amount to support theirs. I personally believe that we are in a good situation.

-:Undertaker:-

28-04-2009, 07:34 PM

It's people like you who stop politics from working properly. If there is a crisis, the government need to work efficiently and productivly, not use it to take political swipes at each other. I hope the EU will take steps to turn back flights and ships that have visited Mexico.

The WHO has said that in the worst case scenario, 40% of the UK could be in danger. We have enough anti viral drugs to treat 50%, (and not everyone needs them, only the ones with healthy immune systems need them, as virus' like this often make the immune system overreact and attack our own cells) The USA, the worlds 'richest' country, does not have that amount to support theirs. I personally believe that we are in a good situation.

Sorry what has this government done to stop this crisis? - nothing. I would of closed all ports and stopped aircraft coming from areas which are infected days ago, along with quranteen for people who recently got back as to check for infection. The EU is doing nothing it looks like, and it cant do anything to protect itself as it abolished its borders not long ago, so unless independant countries within the EU take measures themselves such as get their armed forced to block the roads then it will continue to spread. We are an island, we should be able to protect ourselves easier - or so you would think.

As for the vaccine, it is not the right vaccine for this type of flu and if we're in such a good situation, why are our borders still not closed? - Gordon Brown said we were well placed to weather the recession, we weren't so you'll forgive me and most of this country for not believing a word this man says.

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 07:39 PM

Sorry what has this government done to stop this crisis? - nothing. I would of closed all ports and stopped aircraft coming from areas which are infected days ago, along with quranteen for people who recently got back as to check for infection. The EU is doing nothing it looks like, and it cant do anything to protect itself as it abolished its borders not long ago, so unless independant countries within the EU take measures themselves such as get their armed forced to block the roads then it will continue to spread. We are an island, we should be able to protect ourselves easier - or so you would think.

As for the vaccine, it is not the right vaccine for this type of flu and if we're in such a good situation, why are our borders still not closed? - Gordon Brown said we were well placed to weather the recession, we weren't so you'll forgive me and most of this country for not believing a word this man says.

WILL YOU SHUT UP

2 PEOPLE ARE DOWN WITH THE FLU AND BEING TREATED
THEY'RE IN SCOTLAND
YOU MUPPET IT'S NOT FREAKIN 40% OF THE UK JUST YET

*rant over
*wait a minute

And if you ran the country im sure we'd all be dead, thankyou very freakin much.

efq

28-04-2009, 07:40 PM

Hundreds of school children with suspected swine flu after a few have been found to have it. See, all it takes is 1 child in a school to spread to hundreds.

Loser

28-04-2009, 07:46 PM

I'm feeling a bit under the weather, think I've got the Swiners.

Georgie-Best

28-04-2009, 07:47 PM

WILL YOU SHUT UP

2 PEOPLE ARE DOWN WITH THE FLU AND BEING TREATED
THEY'RE IN SCOTLAND
YOU MUPPET IT'S NOT FREAKIN 40% OF THE UK JUST YET

*rant over
*wait a minute

And if you ran the country im sure we'd all be dead, thankyou very freakin much.
haha well said. Undertaker's post is clearly ridiculous, closing the borders just because two people have swine flu symtoms? :lol:

jackass

28-04-2009, 07:49 PM

haha well said. Undertaker's post is clearly ridiculous, closing the borders just because two people have swine flu symtoms? :lol:

You clearly know absolutely nothing on this subject, so why even bother posting something that will bring no input to the thread whatsoever?

Fez

28-04-2009, 07:52 PM

Hundreds of school children with suspected swine flu after a few have been found to have it. See, all it takes is 1 child in a school to spread to hundreds.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Needs-moar-drama.jpg

If this goes Pandemic, imma go to Narnia...

Edited by MattGarner (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly.

efq

28-04-2009, 07:52 PM

haha well said. Undertaker's post is clearly ridiculous, closing the borders just because two people have swine flu symtoms? :lol:
2 people can lead to thousands. Them 2 people have already possibly infected 26, so lets say them 26 infected 26 each, thats 676, then all of them infect 26 each 17576 then all them infect 26 each 456976. I think you get the point?

Georgie-Best

28-04-2009, 07:53 PM

You clearly know absolutely nothing on this subject, so why even bother posting something that will bring no input to the thread whatsoever?
so I can't say how stupid of a decision Undertaker would be making? muppet :rolleyes:

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 07:53 PM

I'm feeling a bit under the weather, think I've got the Swiners.

i think that may just be a poo

Edited by MattGarner (Forum Super Moderator): Please stick to the topic and don't post pointlessly.

efq

28-04-2009, 07:54 PM

so I can't say how stupid of a decision Undertaker would be making? muppet :rolleyes:
No because if they are still open infected people can flood in and infect all of us.

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 07:56 PM

No because if they are still open infected people can flood in and infect all of us.

we need to look at the facts first and have a breather

nobody has been 100% confirmed to die with this flu apart from mexicans or people in mexico

Georgie-Best

28-04-2009, 07:57 PM

2 people can lead to thousands. Them 2 people have already possibly infected 26, so lets say them 26 infected 26 each, thats 676, then all of them infect 26 each 17576 then all them infect 26 each 456976. I think you get the point?
BUT CLOSING THE BORDERS IS A BIT EXTREME NO?:eusa_wall

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 07:58 PM

BUT CLOSING THE BORDERS IS A BIT EXTREME NO?:eusa_wall

NOT IF CRAZY MEXICANS START COFFIN ON U

QUICKLY 2 DOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

efq

28-04-2009, 07:58 PM

Because we are more organised. But the government won't be able to help all of us when it spreads into the tons of thousands... which WHO have already said is highly possible.

Georgie, it depends if the government want people who may be infected outside our country to come in and infect us, which obviously don't care about and are assuming because they have a huge stockpile that has been sitting there for 5 years that they can claim that as their work to help us this time.

Ardemax, stop posting pointless and idiotic posts.

Georgie-Best

28-04-2009, 07:59 PM

normal flu kills thousands of people a year and is highly contagious

close the borders?

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 08:00 PM

Because we are more organised. But the government won't be able to help all of us when it spreads into the tons of thousands... which WHO have already said is highly possible.

still only 2 people infected in uk

efq

28-04-2009, 08:03 PM

normal flu kills thousands of people a year and is highly contagious

close the borders?
This has already been stated by WHO, this can go out of control and kill millions. The flu is easier to cure this isn't because its a mix of different things which they have little knowledge of. Plus it keeps mutating so the vaccines become useless.

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 08:05 PM

This has already been stated by WHO, this can go out of control and kill millions. The flu is easier to cure this isn't because its a mix of different things which they have little knowledge of. Plus it keeps mutating so the vaccines become useless.

how is it easier to cure when you can't cure it

it's the same as the common cold, un-curable

we're gonna have to wait for it to go away again or stop transferring to humans

efq

28-04-2009, 08:09 PM

Georgie-Best

28-04-2009, 08:09 PM

voiding clearly doesn't know what he is on about

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 08:11 PM

Yeah, and the more un-detected it goes, the harder the chance for us to recover quickly.

efq

28-04-2009, 08:12 PM

voiding clearly doesn't know what he is on about
Obviously you don't?

Also there is little to stop it, they have officially said it is impossible to contain it so theres nothing much they can do is tell you basic instructions.

Gullable

28-04-2009, 08:14 PM

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Ardemax

28-04-2009, 08:15 PM

*Removed*

i think we can tell a sheep from a pig and that's deffo a sheep :rolleyes:

get ur facts right

Robbie

28-04-2009, 08:18 PM

how is it easier to cure when you can't cure it

it's the same as the common cold, un-curable

we're gonna have to wait for it to go away again or stop transferring to humans

How do you know it's un-curable? Heard it in The Sun? This is all major major major MAJOR MAJOR hype. There is little to no threat to the normal person just going about their daily business. Unless you're regularly going to affected areas or in contact with people who are (and they're ISOLATING PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT SO IT CANNOT BE SPREAD), you aint under threat. The only reason the WHO have raised the threat level is because more than one country is under threat, so the WHO just raises the threat level.

Obviously I'm not saying everyone go in Mexico City and party, just use some common sense and realise it's hype and scaremongering. More hype, more stories, more newspaper sales and news programme viewers.

Of course according to The Sun, this time next week EVERYONE ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL BE:
http://auspainia.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/zombie-market-street.jpg

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 08:20 PM

How do you know it's un-curable? Heard it in The Sun? This is all major major major MAJOR MAJOR hype. There is little to no threat to the normal person just going about their daily business. Unless you're regularly going to affected areas or in contact with people who are (and they're ISOLATING PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT SO IT CANNOT BE SPREAD), you aint under threat. The only reason the WHO have raised the threat level is because more than one country is under threat, so the WHO just raises the threat level.

Obviously I'm not saying everyone go in Mexico City and party, just use some common sense and realise it's hype and scaremongering. More hype, more stories, more newspaper sales and news programme viewers.

Of course according to The Sun, this time next week EVERYONE ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL BE:
http://classic-horror.com/files/images/T28DAYS_LATER169-468.jpg

this time im being realistic
you can't cure the common cold or normal flu
you can't cure this

Georgie-Best

28-04-2009, 08:21 PM

finally some common sense!!!!!!!

Robbie

28-04-2009, 08:22 PM

this time im being realistic
you can't cure the common cold or normal flu
you can't cure this

So we're all doomed then. How do you know this?

Ardemax

28-04-2009, 08:26 PM

So we're all doomed then. How do you know this?

because people have been trying for hundreds of years with no luck

and the virus keeps changing it's sort of DNA so you can be immune against it

besides, i know a lot of doctors :P

Georgie-Best

28-04-2009, 08:30 PM

there is no cure for the common cold - FACHT

Dan2nd

28-04-2009, 08:33 PM

Exactly and it isn't going to 'go away' like that. It will spread and spread for ages. There is estimated hundreds that could have the swine flu but are assuming its just a normal flu and arn't going to their doctors. So they are spreading it everytime they go near someone. My mums business partner just got back from Mexico, NY and Florida and has the Flu but hasn't bothered going to his GP.

People, mostly men don't want to get checked so it just spreads and spreads or just put every person in the world into a isolated box yeah?

How come when I read the paper yestaday and watched the news this morning it was saying '150 people have died from swine flu bla bla'

then when I watch the Sky News this afternoon it says only 7 of the 150 deaths in Mexico have been confirmed to have been down to Swine flu?

this time im being realistic
you can't cure the common cold or normal flu
you can't cure this

We can recover from the common cold though did you know everytime you catch a cold it is a totally different version of what you have ever had before because you immune system has learnt to fight the germys that occupied your body before :P

Fez

28-04-2009, 08:41 PM

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5924/drama.jpg

I can trust this thread spiraling into "WHO CAN SCARE PEOPLE THE MOST."

efq

28-04-2009, 08:41 PM

Fez

28-04-2009, 08:46 PM

There will be loads of people who have the swine flu but haven't bothered to go to the GP or what and it will continue spreading. Like they said the reason there isn't no deaths out of Mexico is because its too early. They said give it time to spread and then watch the deaths globally.
Oh right, so they actually said "Let it spread, watch the deaths.". Firstly, who exactly said this? Secondly, get your facts straight and three, stop being the most melodramatic forumite ever.

Robbie

28-04-2009, 08:48 PM

Oh right, so they actually said "Let it spread, watch the deaths.". Firstly, who exactly said this? Secondly, get your facts straight and three, stop being the most melodramatic forumite ever.

WE HAVE A WINRAR

cocaine

28-04-2009, 08:50 PM

at least this'll be something to tell the grandkids

"yep.. i lived through 2 major world pandemics :8".

its 2 atm.. god knows how many more we could av in the future.

Fez

28-04-2009, 08:52 PM

When I heard of Swine Flu. This song popped into my head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSJx-xmlmBc

Dan2nd

28-04-2009, 08:52 PM

I just get if things are really predicted by a reliable source (and when I say reliable I mean a source which has not been quoted on TV or in a news paper)
and if this is supposed to kill as many people as everyone is saying how come extream measures haven't been put in place already?

If I think about it seriously when I went out today I felt nothing had changed no one was acting as if we could all become infected and die.. I mean if like Voiding has said is true today alone I could have come in contact with hundreds of potentially infected people... maybe I'm infected myself infact I've got hayfeaver so already feel like crap so might not be able to tell the difference I'll update you on my condition :rolleyes:

(I didn't mean to target Voiding directly you were the last person to post :))

Slowpoke

28-04-2009, 09:01 PM

Wrong, it only kills healthy people between 20-45 years old. Elderly and young are not at fatal risk.

So the day you turn twenty you're completely safe from dying? Sorry but that sounds like a load of crap, source?

Dan2nd

28-04-2009, 09:07 PM

So the day you turn twenty you're completely safe from dying? Sorry but that sounds like a load of crap, source?

He means that people between the age of 20 - 45 are most at risk of getting the virus as it seems to catch onto people who have the most healthy and secure immune system so if and i mean IF this does end up global you are better off having an extreamly bad immune system than a healthy one :)

that is what they have been saying on TV anyway...

EDIT: Just to confirm that does not mean you are going to die if you are between those ages like Voiding stated above lol

Hushie

28-04-2009, 09:20 PM

Lol. People at school were worrying because they only have enough medicine to treat half of the population. (UK)
They couldn't see that the two people who have it are only like 1/100000000

-:Undertaker:-

28-04-2009, 09:22 PM

WILL YOU SHUT UP

2 PEOPLE ARE DOWN WITH THE FLU AND BEING TREATED
THEY'RE IN SCOTLAND
YOU MUPPET IT'S NOT FREAKIN 40% OF THE UK JUST YET

*rant over
*wait a minute

And if you ran the country im sure we'd all be dead, thankyou very freakin much.

I didn't say it was 40% of the country who had the flu, yet again your putting words in my mouth to get your point (if you can call it that) across. You close the borders to protect your citzens, or would you rather we just take a "oh well doesn't matter if we die we die" attitude. Two people are indeed down with the flu, but as in Mexico it would of started off as one or two people, and now its estimated to be reaching thousands within just a few weeks.

And if you ran the country im sure we'd all be dead, thankyou very freakin much

In conclusion i'd rethink that, afterall, you'd like us to keep our borders open and take an incredible risk with this virus and peoples lives.

haha well said. Undertaker's post is clearly ridiculous, closing the borders just because two people have swine flu symtoms? :lol:

Would you rather us close the borders when thousands of people have the virus, by which time it would be too late and closing the borders would make no difference? - Just to add, which again shows people here don't know what their talking about, it is confirmed they have swine flu, not suspected.

I now ask; whos' post is ridiculous now.

You clearly know absolutely nothing on this subject, so why even bother posting something that will bring no input to the thread whatsoever?

Ardemax has made a habit of it.

Hushie

28-04-2009, 09:24 PM

Avian flu was much worse, nothing happened then.

-:Undertaker:-

28-04-2009, 09:26 PM

Avian flu was much worse, nothing happened then.

Avian Flu could only be caught from birds to humans and not human to human like this Swine Flu. There are hopes at the moment that the virus will burn itself out in a week or two similar to the SARS crisis a few years ago.

Dan2nd

28-04-2009, 09:32 PM

According to ITV news (meh) the reason why the numbers are so high at the moment is because anyone who dies/comes down with normal flu (which is normally alot everyday apprently) are being logged as potential Swine Flu cases.

So far only seven of the one hundred and fifty (I think its 150?) that have been recorded as dead in Mexico have been confirmed as Swine Flu cases.

So meh I dunno what to beleve at the moment :)

alexxxxx

28-04-2009, 09:32 PM

-:Undertaker:-

28-04-2009, 09:37 PM

whatever happens, we know more than ever (obviously) about viral diseases and we do have stockpiles of drugs which combat the disease effectively. Closing the borders is a ridiculous thing to do as the disease is more than likely already here and infected in a few dozen people and could have been here for several days (or weeks).

Yeah, I suppose advances in science at times can be too far in my opinion, but at least in a worst case scenario it would take 6 months for them to develop a vaccine against this flu. As for closing the borders, it is sensible, it is easier to control 50 people who are infected (thus you slow its infection rate) than to control 500+ people are are infected.

SugarPlum.

28-04-2009, 09:40 PM

i think i have it tbh i been sneezin all day :(

Hushie

28-04-2009, 09:41 PM

i think i have it tbh i been sneezin all day :(

Wow, because that's likely

Hazza

28-04-2009, 09:49 PM

Is this curable?

Hushie

28-04-2009, 09:55 PM

Yes, i think

lew!

28-04-2009, 10:00 PM

Its partly curable. They can cure the symptoms but not the actual disease.
Also, even though they are still containing people who have it, just thing. If everybody on HxF was in a field, and I had it, i would pass it onto, say... 3 people. Then i would be confirmed and thown out of the field. Then those 3 people would of infected 3 people each, making another 9 people infected by the time those 3 people have been confirmed infected they would of infected more and more people.

So it works in a chain.

Hiro

28-04-2009, 11:50 PM

If your don't like these topics then don't click on the thread? Simple.

Oh yeah, they may have been affected but the chances are 20-45 are more likely, understood?

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind these topics, but when people start blatantly e-bullying people, and people start arguing for no reason, it just becomes pointless..

The media are making this far worse than it actually is..

Ardemax

29-04-2009, 05:53 AM

I didn't say it was 40% of the country who had the flu, yet again your putting words in my mouth to get your point (if you can call it that) across. You close the borders to protect your citzens, or would you rather we just take a "oh well doesn't matter if we die we die" attitude. Two people are indeed down with the flu, but as in Mexico it would of started off as one or two people, and now its estimated to be reaching thousands within just a few weeks.

In conclusion i'd rethink that, afterall, you'd like us to keep our borders open and take an incredible risk with this virus and peoples lives.

Would you rather us close the borders when thousands of people have the virus, by which time it would be too late and closing the borders would make no difference? - Just to add, which again shows people here don't know what their talking about, it is confirmed they have swine flu, not suspected.

I now ask; whos' post is ridiculous now.

Ardemax has made a habit of it.

sorry but what the hell.
close the borders?
why? because you're scared you might die? no.
there are people from the uk still abroad and if we close the borders, they're in a hell load of trouble.
yes, 2 PEOPLE have been confirmed to have swine flu
who else gives a toss about this, not i sir, not i.

Plank

29-04-2009, 10:40 AM

More updates...

France requests to close all EU flights to Mexico.

First death outside of Mexico.. 23 month old child dies in Texas of confirmed swine flu.

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 10:59 AM

The first batch of test results on 23 patients in Scotland suspected of having swine flu have proved negative.

Uhmm... I swear reading the news and it was saying that in Mexico, in fact only 25 had died from the actual new strain and 7 died in suspicious circumstances LIKE the virus, however alot also died due to other causes & the actual influenzu which has been around all the time.

Blinger1

29-04-2009, 11:06 AM

yes, 2 PEOPLE have been confirmed to have swine flu

In New Zealand five are believed to have the flu, and there were many Aussies on the plane trip where these New Zealanders came from... oh **** son!

Those Aussies are currently being tracked down though..

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 11:12 AM

Hundreds of school children with suspected swine flu after a few have been found to have it. See, all it takes is 1 child in a school to spread to hundreds.
So your made up theory that school children can't catch it as easily as 20-40 year olds has been nullified, then?

It may just be me, but didn't the Mexicans who caught it die within a few days? These New Zealanders and Scots haven't died yet, not being morbid I don't think anyone has yet, in MEDCs (More Economically Developed Countries)...

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 11:15 AM

So your made up theory that school children can't catch it as easily as 20-40 year olds has been nullified, then?

It may just be me, but didn't the Mexicans who caught it die within a few days? These New Zealanders and Scots haven't died yet, not being morbid but it's true...

Lulz, Voiding just got owned. 23-month yr old baby died for god sake, everyones vunerable to it I bet. Yeah Gomme btw cant be true, kid died in the US.

Annnd yeah they did actually, but I bet they didnt get the type of treatment that the NHS provide, plus Mexico wouldnt have known what they were dealing with therefore they were a bit like "WHAT DOES WE DO?" I think now Mexico now what they're dealing with, they're able to combat the virus, which would be why Mexico have announced the death rate is slowing down.

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 11:31 AM

Tried to edit but I ran out of time:

Breaking News

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/uk-confirms-three-more-cases-of-swine-flu-1675948.html

Britain confirmed a further three cases of swine flu today, including one in London and one in a 12-year-old girl in south west England.

I DONT WANNA DIE >: (

Blinger1

29-04-2009, 11:33 AM

Buy a face mask.. heaps of chemists here have ran out of them!

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 11:39 AM

Might just be a good idea LOL. Tbh we're all bound to die xD

Blinger1

29-04-2009, 11:49 AM

That is pretty much the words of my 'step dad' who smokes.. "we all die some time, whether its now or in 50 years"...

And also, if this originated from pigs, bring on the cheap pork!

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 11:54 AM

LOL. Oh toss, I just found out where this girl whose been infected in Devon is from... One of the Torbay schools, I live dangerously close to Torbay, I'm on the train every single day and... Oh god I'm screwed LOL.

Niall!

29-04-2009, 12:00 PM

No cases over here in froggy land yet, only a matter of time though

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 12:02 PM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/I-went-to-Mexico-and-all-I-got-was-Swine-Flu-t-shirt_W0QQitemZ250414677113QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20 090428?IMSfp=TL090428135002r31060

I'm so buying one.

Immenseman

29-04-2009, 12:04 PM

lol at how close that is to me ryan

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 12:06 PM

I know its right round the corner to you. They didn't confirm the school, but I bet its either Westlands School or Torquay Grammer School for Girls. God my mum and dad work in Torquay ROFL.

Immenseman

29-04-2009, 12:07 PM

could be paignton or brixham though because they've only said torbay haven't they?

edit; it's paignton community college LOL ****hole anyway

my step-mum used to work there haha

got mates who go there tho

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 12:11 PM

http://www.westlandstc.com/www/content/index.php

It's not Paignton, unless... LOL ITS BOTH?

Immenseman

29-04-2009, 12:12 PM

from the herald express:

http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Swine-flu-outbreak-reports/article-947054-detail/article.html

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 12:13 PM

Oh sweet LOL. Great, thats where my train originates from... Thank god I'm not on the train tommorow... Oh wait I need to go into Torquay actually LOL ogod.

Immenseman

29-04-2009, 12:15 PM

rest in peace ryan goodwin or w/e LOL

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 12:18 PM

*criesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss*

Hiro

29-04-2009, 02:07 PM

8 people dead worldwide due to Swine Flu...I'm so scared. >_>

Georgie-Best

29-04-2009, 02:31 PM

now its been rerported to be in england i havent left my house. i need to stock up on food though, whats best to do? if i wear a fask mask will I look an idiot??

exploit

29-04-2009, 02:34 PM

now its been rerported to be in england i havent left my house. i need to stock up on food though, whats best to do? if i wear a fask mask will I look an idiot??

it isnt that bad :/

Slowpoke

29-04-2009, 02:38 PM

It's spreading pretty quickly actually. In our local paper today it was reported that a child who recently took a holiday in Mexico is to undergo tests after coming down the with the flu. I have actually started to feel really ill today with what feels like a bad cold (unusual since it's been really good weather recently and none of my mates are ill). I know it's not Swine Flu but it did make me think. :P Most are overacting about this but there are a few are taking it far too lightly. Part of me wants it to get more serious just to see how the world reacts and shut all the cocky, sarcastic people up.

Oh and Exploit, he's taking the piss. :rolleyes:

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 02:39 PM

A face mask wont help prevent swine flu, in fact itll just make you look silly.

Bef

29-04-2009, 02:49 PM

Its in wales now too aparently
i hope people dont start over reacting and closing down public places, i need 2 keep up my training!

-:Undertaker:-

29-04-2009, 03:57 PM

sorry but what the hell.
close the borders?
why? because you're scared you might die? no.
there are people from the uk still abroad and if we close the borders, they're in a hell load of trouble.
yes, 2 PEOPLE have been confirmed to have swine flu
who else gives a toss about this, not i sir, not i.

Close the borders to tourists etc, are you delibertly acting as if you have no idea what your talking about, you are very good at it. I have just given example of why we should close borders, as it is easier to slow/control 50 people with swine flu than to control 500+ people with swine flu.

2 people today, could be 10 tommorow - are you prepared to take an enormous risk with peoples lives, but then again you don't give a toss. You ignored all I said and came back with the same rubbish.

Obviously British people would be allowed back, but they would all have checks carried out and we'd focus on ridding the virus from our country. Common sense, and your lacking.

efq

29-04-2009, 04:07 PM

So someone has died in the US. So those going 'oh they're just dieing in Mexico'.

5 Confirmed cases in the UK and possibly more as a school has been shut in Devon which could of possibly spread through hundreds in the school after a girl was confirmed to have it.

Swine flu has now turned up in at least seven countries and appears to be jumping borders via plane flights.
It has spread to Asia and the Middle East as world health officials admitted the virus could not be contained.
Which backs up Undertakers point on closing the borders..

Asia, Middle East, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Israel, Brazil, Colombia, France, Cuba and UK either have confirmed or suspect swine flu cases.

Also WHO have announced that the virus spreading is not slowing down and are on the verge of jumping the milestone to putting the threat level to 5 which is 1 away from a Pandemic.

Global Swine Flu Spread 'Is Not Slowing

lew!

29-04-2009, 04:10 PM

Everybody take a deep breath..

We're all going to die.

lolz. odd that baby has died tho in U.S

Georgie-Best

29-04-2009, 04:11 PM

closing the borders would be the stupidest idea ever. we would lose millions of pounds if we closed the borders which wont be good because we are in a recession

Niall!

29-04-2009, 04:12 PM

So someone has died in the US. So those going 'oh they're just dieing in Mexico'.

5 Confirmed cases in the UK and possibly more as a school has been shut in Devon which could of possibly spread through hundreds in the school after a girl was confirmed to have it.

Which backs up Undertakers point on closing the borders..

Asia, Middle East, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Israel, Brazil, Colombia, France, Cuba and UK either have confirmed or suspect swine flu cases.

Also WHO have announced that the virus spreading is not slowing down and are on the verge of jumping the milestone to putting the threat level to 5 which is 1 away from a Pandemic.

Only suspected in France, no confirmed yet

efq

29-04-2009, 04:14 PM

Only suspected in France, no confirmed yet
Which is why I said Suspect or Confirmed cases...

And Georgie, the UK is still being hit by this, markets dropping, stores losing tons of money because people are not buying meat, vaccines and more.

Georgie-Best

29-04-2009, 04:17 PM

this is so stupid. you people will believe anything.

efq

29-04-2009, 04:19 PM

this is so stupid. you people will believe anything.
No it's when the top scientists tell you theres nothing they can do to prevent it. Also the Worlds Health Organistation has no idea what to do is worrying too.

Just one of the few people I wish would get the swine flu.

It gets serious when they advise and stop travelling. That RARELY happens. Didn't happen with the bird flu.

-:Undertaker:-

29-04-2009, 04:19 PM

closing the borders would be the stupidest idea ever. we would lose millions of pounds if we closed the borders which wont be good because we are in a recession

Yes, it is far better taking a risk with peoples lives and taking a even bigger risk in terms of economics, because if it goes widespread all our public places and cities will be effectivly closed, just like now in Mexico City where the city with 20 million people in has fallen silent and is losing £56 million per day.

The millions lost closing the borders and saving lives is far preferable to potential mass death and having the whole country close down, which would cripple our economy.

Ardemax

29-04-2009, 04:19 PM

im going 2 london on friday

c u in heaven x

Georgie-Best

29-04-2009, 04:23 PM

SARS, bird flu, swine flu all the same. no chance of killing me.

Ardemax

29-04-2009, 04:27 PM

k it DOES NOT AFFECT US

IT ONLY AFFECTS PEOPLE WITH BAD IMMUNE SYSTEMS/ARE POORLY/ARE SICK

IT WILL AFFECT THE ELDERLY AND VERY YOUNG

-:Undertaker:-

29-04-2009, 04:32 PM

k it DOES NOT AFFECT US

IT ONLY AFFECTS PEOPLE WITH BAD IMMUNE SYSTEMS/ARE POORLY/ARE SICK

IT WILL AFFECT THE ELDERLY AND VERY YOUNG

Is that why a middle aged/young couple in Scotland tested positive for it and are now in self-qurantine?

Hiro

29-04-2009, 04:35 PM

8 dead from Swine Flu. I'm not scared.

Ardemax

29-04-2009, 04:38 PM

Is that why a middle aged/young couple in Scotland tested positive for it and are now in self-qurantine?

read, incompetent fool.

they would have a bad immune system...

Plank

29-04-2009, 04:40 PM

So someone has died in the US. So those going 'oh they're just dieing in Mexico'.

5 Confirmed cases in the UK and possibly more as a school has been shut in Devon which could of possibly spread through hundreds in the school after a girl was confirmed to have it.

Which backs up Undertakers point on closing the borders..

Asia, Middle East, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Israel, Brazil, Colombia, France, Cuba and UK either have confirmed or suspect swine flu cases.

Also WHO have announced that the virus spreading is not slowing down and are on the verge of jumping the milestone to putting the threat level to 5 which is 1 away from a Pandemic.

Although it must be highlighted that the child that died in the US had only just travelled to Texas from Mexico to recieve treatment for the swine flu.

-:Undertaker:-

29-04-2009, 04:41 PM

read, incompetent fool.

they would have a bad immune system...

Do you know these people personally, have they told you their immune systems are terrible? - no they haven't, and now we can see your just making excuses to keep alive whatever opposition your trying to put up to this topic.

It can affect anyone.

efq

29-04-2009, 04:44 PM

k it DOES NOT AFFECT US

IT ONLY AFFECTS PEOPLE WITH BAD IMMUNE SYSTEMS/ARE POORLY/ARE SICK

IT WILL AFFECT THE ELDERLY AND VERY YOUNG
Wow you said the completely opposite.
The Swine Flu effects the middle age and healthy people the most. Elderly and Young are less likely to die from it. Thats why its confusing scientists.

Read about it.

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 04:47 PM

The chances of this baby dying just by swine flu is very unlikely. I wouldn't be suprised if it died from pneumonia. Babies aren't very immune from flu and a baby getting the regular, winter flu would cause great harm to a baby and IF they do die, it's because of pneumonia, not the flu itself. It's like smoking or having a stroke, eventually you die from pneumonia (usually is the case, I lost my grandad and dad to pneumonia). Besides, this baby wasn't one of the first to get the flu in the US. It'll only be shocking if someone older with a proper immune system dies.

efq

29-04-2009, 04:48 PM

The most cases in Mexico are the middle age and healthy people.

When this spreads into hundreds in countrys is when you start seeing the increase in deaths.

Hiro

29-04-2009, 04:53 PM

The fact that's barely killed anyone is just stupid. People are just taking it out of proportion..
Thanks to the media.

Dan2nd

29-04-2009, 04:54 PM

The most cases in Mexico are the middle age and healthy people.

When this spreads into hundreds in countrys is when you start seeing the increase in deaths.

I don't want to start an arguement here but your confusing me so much because you keep contradicting yourself one minute your saying it will only kill people between the ages of 20-45 then your agreeing with Undertaker who says it could infect anyone even people who are as young as babies etc when he seems to be 'winning' the debate and now Gomme has said something about babies being vunrable to infections anyway you are saying most people who have been effected in Mexico are middle aged again I'm sooo confused :S

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 04:59 PM

efq

29-04-2009, 04:59 PM

I don't want to start an arguement here but your confusing me so much because you keep contradicting yourself one minute your saying it will only kill people between the ages of 20-45 then your agreeing with Undertaker who says it could infect anyone even people who are as young as babies etc when he seems to be 'winning' the debate and now Gomme has said something about babies being vunrable to infections anyway you are saying most people who have been effected in Mexico are middle aged again I'm sooo confused :S
I have never said babies are likely to get infected, I'll agree if you can quote me.

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 05:07 PM

I have never said babies are likely to get infected, I'll agree if you can quote me.
I don't think you may of said it, but you seem to of went along with it. Below is a post you made on page 28 quoting an unknown source (which is also quoted within a quote) :

Oh yeah, they may have been affected but the chances are 20-45 are more likely, understood?

Unlike what usually happens in cases of influenza, which inflict a greater number of deaths between the elderly and the children, this strain resulted in deaths only in people between the ages of 25 and 50.

It seems to attack anyone of any age, so your "source" is completely wrong, considering the strain has resulted in deaths of any age group. So your source is wrong it seems, considering a young child died. So your source which says "this strain resulted in deaths only in people between the ages of 25 and 50," is wrong.

efq

29-04-2009, 05:09 PM

Yes but the middle age and healthiest are at a higher risk.

That source was http://www.who.int/en/

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 05:11 PM

Yes but the middle age and healthiest are at a higher risk.

That source was http://www.who.int/en/
Well your source clearly stated:

"This strain resulted in deaths only in people between the ages of 25 and 50."

I'm not sure what's more worrying, the fact they presumed that the strain of influenza only kills 25-50 year olds without knowing it's completely unbiased to age, or the fact it came from a "World Health Organisation" which should know better not to make unjust presumptions...

efq

29-04-2009, 05:13 PM

Well your source clearly stated:

"This strain resulted in deaths only in people between the ages of 25 and 50."

I'm not sure what's more worrying, the fact they presumed that the strain of influenza only kills 25-50 year olds without knowing it's completely unbiased to age, or the fact it came from a "World Health Organisation" which should know better not to make unjust presumptions...
Well it seems to be affecting the age region from scientific data...

Loser

29-04-2009, 05:15 PM

May I also point out that you can have an amazingly good immune system and still get flu :P Flu attacks and goes through an immune system, which is why anyone can get it. Immunity is just a tiny barrier. Some illnesses infact take out (or shut down) the immune system to allow other illnesses to take over. Not all illnesses have this "black and white" take on things. They're all random. Think of yourself as a computer. A firewall is there only to prevent a virus getting through (worm, whatever, technicalities aren't too important) while some bypass it.

Your theory is wrong, but the outcome is the same.

The immune system relys on identifying the virus before it can kill it, and creating the correct method takes time. If you've had the virus before. The immune system remembers what to do, and how to destroy the virus, and can do so alot faster, and you won't feel the symptoms. It's why you only present the chicken pox symptoms once, even though you make have contracted it alot more than that.
The reason the flu virus is not always prevented, is because the virus mutates once in a while, so the body's readied method of destroying the virus is ineffective (this is why HIV/AIDS is so difficult to deal with, it mutates alot more often than flu). It's why elderly people need a flu jab once, or twice, a year. Younger people have stronger immune systems, so can deal with it without it being lethal.

I'm not entirely sure how much this differs with swine flu.

Hushie

29-04-2009, 05:16 PM

Well your source clearly stated:

"This strain resulted in deaths only in people between the ages of 25 and 50."

I'm not sure what's more worrying, the fact they presumed that the strain of influenza only kills 25-50 year olds without knowing it's completely unbiased to age, or the fact it came from a "World Health Organisation" which should know better not to make unjust presumptions...

Note resulted

Not results, they were saying the only people who had died were between that age, they weren't presuming anything.

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 05:26 PM

Note resulted

Not results, they were saying the only people who had died were between that age, they weren't presuming anything.
Ah but that's when you consider that the virus is still going around. They shouldn't make up "results" for something that is still going on, they should make claims to judge the future rather than make the past write the future What I mean is:

They should claim that, although 25-50 year olds have died of this virus, it is still possible for anyone of any age can get it. What they did in that article/sentence, was make it seem that the virus is dead and gone, "resulted" usually refering to past events while "has resulted" infers that the virus is still around, but so far has killed xxx. What I'm getting at is that it makes it look like anyone around those ages is immune to it and that the virus will not effect anyone, aswell as making it look like the virus no longer exists by the dreadful use of wording.

Yes, it killed 25-50 year olds, but there is still the risk of others getting the virus. That's like saying "So far, only 18-21 year olds have died of aids. (obviously I've made up that fact :P)" But the risk of a 17 year old getting it or a 22 year old getting it is about the same. The claim in that source suggests all of us using this forum are going to be fine, because the past "proves" only people older than 25 are going to get it.

It's an invalid source, purely because it's referring to the past and not a claim to a theory that it can effect any age group :)

efq

29-04-2009, 05:33 PM

Ah but that's when you consider that the virus is still going around. They shouldn't make up "results" for something that is still going on, they should make claims to judge the future rather than make the past write the future What I mean is:

They should claim that, although 25-50 year olds have died of this virus, it is still possible for anyone of any age can get it. What they did in that article/sentence, was make it seem that the virus is dead and gone, "resulted" usually refering to past events while "has resulted" infers that the virus is still around, but so far has killed xxx. What I'm getting at is that it makes it look like anyone around those ages is immune to it and that the virus will not effect anyone, aswell as making it look like the virus no longer exists by the dreadful use of wording.

Yes, it killed 25-50 year olds, but there is still the risk of others getting the virus. That's like saying "So far, only 18-21 year olds have died of aids. (obviously I've made up that fact :P)" But the risk of a 17 year old getting it or a 22 year old getting it is about the same. The claim in that source suggests all of us using this forum are going to be fine, because the past "proves" only people older than 25 are going to get it.

It's an invalid source, purely because it's referring to the past and not a claim to a theory that it can effect any age group :)
Well in the last 1918 big outbreak it killed millions mainly the healthy and ages 15–34.

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 05:36 PM

Well in the last 1918 big outbreak it killed millions mainly the healthy and ages 15–34.
That means very little though, it killed anyone. Look at your wording, you said it too - by using the word "mainly." Mainly doesn't mean only, so it did kill people outside of those margins too.

efq

29-04-2009, 05:46 PM

That means very little though, it killed anyone. Look at your wording, you said it too - by using the word "mainly." Mainly doesn't mean only, so it did kill people outside of those margins too.
Ok, the healthy and middle aged were the people affected the most, where young and elderly seemed to be THAT affected by it.

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 05:50 PM

Ok, the healthy and middle aged were the people affected the most, where young and elderly seemed to be THAT affected by it.
Which basically means, everyone is vulnerable. There are just some groups of people that are more vulnerable than others :P

N-Dubz

29-04-2009, 05:59 PM

k we're all gnna die of swine flu

Technologic

29-04-2009, 06:29 PM

You're all forgetting they didn't have antivirals in 1918 lol

efq

29-04-2009, 06:46 PM

We're all forgetting they admitted this antiviral won't solve the problem. It stops symptoms but you still have the disease which they can't get rid of.

Fez

29-04-2009, 06:50 PM

So you die from the actual disease, not the symptoms... isn't that impossible?

Also, I'm wearing a medical mask from now on - for the lulz. Plus I'll be safe, even though that's not my intention.

-Heart

29-04-2009, 06:55 PM

The last few days I've been excited about this but now nobody is dieing so I'm a bit depressed :(.

Fez

29-04-2009, 07:03 PM

Ah, no deaths makes you sad :(

efq

29-04-2009, 07:42 PM

Pandemic Level has been raised by WHO to level 5, next level is a full pandemic.

WHO are holding a emergency news conference at 21:00

Also, WHO are reconsidering that Mexico was the origin of the start of this outbreak after person in Spain had not been to Mexico or near anyone who has.

Pyroka

29-04-2009, 07:49 PM

We're all forgetting they admitted this antiviral won't solve the problem. It stops symptoms but you still have the disease which they can't get rid of.

The CDC recommends the use of Tamiflu (oseltamivir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oseltamivir)) or Relenza (zanamivir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanamivir)) for the treatment and/or prevention of infection with swine influenza viruses, however, the majority of people infected with the virus make a full recovery without requiring medical attention or antiviral drugs.[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza#cite_note-37) The virus isolates that have been tested from the US and Mexico are however resistant to amantadine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amantadine) and rimantadine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimantadine).[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza#cite_note-38) If a person gets sick, antiviral drugs can make the illness milder and make the patient feel better faster. They may also prevent serious flu complications. For treatment, antiviral drugs work best if started soon after getting sick (within 2 days of symptoms).

Wherever they admitted this, I would LOVE to know. Was it the government by any chance? The same government who are going to buy masks because 'theyre effective for containing the virus'? :rolleyes:

Also, the level hasnt been raised yet. Learn to read, its according to sources it might get raised.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Swine-Flu-Alert-Level-To-Be-Raised-From-Four-To-Five---The-Second-Highest-Level-Sources-Say/Article/200904415272069?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15272069_Swine_Flu%3A_Alert_Level_To_B e_Raised_From_Four_To_Five_-_The_Second_Highest_Level%2C_Sources_Says

Stop making the virus sound like the be all and end all, cuz its really not. :@

EDIT: ALSO, WHAT THE HELL? THE REASON THEY MIGHT BE RAISING THE LEVEL IS BECAUSE THEY THINK A SPANISH PERSON MAY HAVE CONTRACTED IT FROM SOMEONE WHO VISITED MEXICO. UGHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Sammeth.

29-04-2009, 07:51 PM

I've just been on the phone to the NHS to find out more about Swine Flu, but all I got was crackling.

Immenseman

29-04-2009, 07:51 PM

stay indoors, dont move, stay on habbo

efq

29-04-2009, 07:53 PM

Wherever they admitted this, I would LOVE to know. Was it the government by any chance? The same government who are going to buy masks because 'theyre effective for containing the virus'? :rolleyes:

Also, the level hasnt been raised yet. Learn to read, its according to sources it might get raised.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Swine-Flu-Alert-Level-To-Be-Raised-From-Four-To-Five---The-Second-Highest-Level-Sources-Say/Article/200904415272069?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15272069_Swine_Flu%3A_Alert_Level_To_B e_Raised_From_Four_To_Five_-_The_Second_Highest_Level%2C_Sources_Says

Stop making the virus sound like the be all and end all, cuz its really not. :@

EDIT: ALSO, WHAT THE HELL? THE REASON THEY MIGHT BE RAISING THE LEVEL IS BECAUSE THEY THINK A SPANISH PERSON MAY HAVE CONTRACTED IT FROM SOMEONE WHO VISITED MEXICO. UGHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Watch the conference in 5 minutes then. Jesus.

Immenseman

29-04-2009, 07:54 PM

how do you know they've upped it to level 5? link.

Jordan:A

29-04-2009, 07:55 PM

Its like 20 mins away from me :o

efq

29-04-2009, 07:55 PM

how do you know they've upped it to level 5? link.
Watch Skynews in 5 minutes.

Immenseman

29-04-2009, 07:57 PM

no i shall not. tell me if there is anything controversial so i can wind people up about it, thanks.

efq

29-04-2009, 08:07 PM

no i shall not. tell me if there is anything controversial so i can wind people up about it, thanks.
They are now telling you to prepare and the world is better prepared than ever.

Immenseman

29-04-2009, 08:11 PM

nothing interesting then

efq

29-04-2009, 08:13 PM

What she is really saying, 'We are on level 6 but we don't want to tell you about it' and that the 'whole of humanity is under threat.' 'Government needs to prepare everyone and begin there pandemic plans' 'They don't have all the answers'

Bloody useless and well woo we are saved because Gordon Brown is dispatching leaflets? Wow

cocaine

29-04-2009, 08:20 PM

efq

29-04-2009, 08:22 PM

level 5 my arse. those infected are "responding well to antiviral treatment".

think about the common cold - constantly mutating, kills thousands a year.
this is just another version of the common cold - but because it's got a new DNA structure not seen before, it gets all this media hype.

if this is a level 5 virus then the common cold should be around level 6?
No, this can spread globally EXTREMELY quickly. No-one has 100% knowledge on this virus so they can't garenteen a the anti-viral will continue working as it mutates and changes. This they said can hit in waves and can even go on for 18+ months.

Yeah 36000 die in the US from the flu but this can kill tons more.

Developing countrys are at a high risk because they can't afford to buy the anti-virals, so it has the possibility of killing millions in the poorer countrys.

Hiro

29-04-2009, 08:27 PM

No, this can spread globally EXTREMELY quickly. No-one has 100% knowledge on this virus so they can't garenteen a the anti-viral will continue working as it mutates and changes. This they said can hit in waves and can even go on for 18+ months.

Yeah 36000 die in the US from the flu but this can kill tons more.

Developing countrys are at a high risk because they can't afford to buy the anti-virals, so it has the possibility of killing millions in the poorer countrys.

Hmm, doesn't look like it..

efq

29-04-2009, 08:30 PM

Hmm, doesn't look like it..
Yeah because this is the start, just wait and I think W.H.O site is overloaded...? http://www.who.int/en

cocaine

29-04-2009, 08:30 PM

efq

29-04-2009, 08:33 PM

yeah but the common colds already global. and AGAIN, the DNA structure of it is constantly mutating as well - so i dont see what your point is lol?
Do you not understand what is more lethal?

When you get a cold you dont run to your doctor, I have never gone to a doctor when I've got a cold and don't know anyone who has. When you have the flu then its different. This is stronger than the cold and flu.

Also if you have the flu, it doesn't infect the whole community your in, this can... very easily.

cocaine

29-04-2009, 08:36 PM

Do you not understand what is more lethal?

When you get a cold you dont run to your doctor, I have never gone to a doctor when I've got a cold and don't know anyone who has. When you have the flu then its different. This is stronger than the cold and flu.

Also if you have the flu, it doesn't infect the whole community your in, this can... very easily.

its only more lethal because it has a different DNA structure.

in essence, im saying that its similar to the common cold in terms of how quickly it's able to spread and infect people, and that its pretty much untreatable...

efq

29-04-2009, 08:38 PM

its only more lethal because it has a different DNA structure.

in essence, im saying that its similar to the common cold in terms of how quickly it's able to spread and infect people, and that its pretty much untreatable...
Yeah but its not as spreadable as this. Like I said if you had the cold it wouldn't affect a lot of people in your community as much as this would.

But I understand where your coming from.

Technologic

29-04-2009, 08:39 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8025931.stm

Lol, we're all doomed

efq

29-04-2009, 08:40 PM

I don't see the point of the masks? The are like invisible crap on your face. It doesn't stop it at all...

Hiro

29-04-2009, 08:43 PM

Do you not understand what is more lethal?

When you get a cold you dont run to your doctor, I have never gone to a doctor when I've got a cold and don't know anyone who has. When you have the flu then its different. This is stronger than the cold and flu.

Also if you have the flu, it doesn't infect the whole community your in, this can... very easily.

Wait...what?! I think you are mixing the Common Cold and Influenza up, or for some reason you think they're the same..
Influenza can spread just as fast as the Swine Flu, but we have vaccinations for it (aka the Flu jab).

buttons

29-04-2009, 08:44 PM

can it pass through breathing on each other :eusa_thin

efq

29-04-2009, 08:45 PM

yes and for eg. if you cough on a surface and someone touchs it they have it.

Hazza

29-04-2009, 08:46 PM

I really cant be bothered with this crap anymore, if it spreads throughout England then fair enough, I'm not that bothered when only 5 people have it.

buttons

29-04-2009, 08:47 PM

LLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL kkkkkk this is just overexagerating and if anyone believes it, shame @ you.

efq

29-04-2009, 08:47 PM

Wait...what?! I think you are mixing the Common Cold and Influenza up, or for some reason you think they're the same..
Influenza can spread just as fast as the Swine Flu, but we have vaccinations for it (aka the Flu jab).
Yeah which only lasts a year, I don't remember getting mine for many years. But I get the flu once or twice a year. But I don't know many people who else have it (Including community)

Look flu has no H1N1 strain, why the hell would they bring this up if it was the same as the flu? Jesus, common sense.

I hope it spreads to thousands to shut all of you up, especially in your communities.

eight

29-04-2009, 08:48 PM

Black death of 2009

efq

29-04-2009, 08:49 PM

What the chinese woman was trying to say is 'We are on level 6 but we don't want to tell you'.

cocaine

29-04-2009, 08:51 PM

I hope it spreads to thousands to shut all of you up, especially in your communities.

well constructed arguement :eusa_clap thats pretty much an automatic fail ahaha.

efq

29-04-2009, 08:52 PM

well constructed arguement :eusa_clap thats pretty much an automatic fail ahaha.
No, just a load of people on this forum are ***** and think the government and worlds health organisation make these decisions and alert you of things and you think its nothing. You deserve to feel the truth not just hear it now.

Hazza

29-04-2009, 08:54 PM

well constructed arguement :eusa_clap thats pretty much an automatic fail ahaha.
Thats what I was thinking, I don't see why we should be that bothered about it when only 5 people near me have it, I'm not that bothered, if I get it or people I know/live near me get it. I'm not worried when FIVE people have it like 95% of the country.

efq

29-04-2009, 08:57 PM

Thats what I was thinking, I don't see why we should be that bothered about it when only 5 people near me have it, I'm not that bothered, if I get it or people I know/live near me get it. I'm not worried when FIVE people have it like 95% of the country.
How do you think it starts? It starts little and that number gets bigger and bigger.

Hazza

29-04-2009, 09:00 PM

Yes, and until it does i'm not bothered like I said. Most of it is media hype.

Jordulti

29-04-2009, 09:01 PM

I have been reading the first page, and I look " we have the big blue sea across from us"

its gone across people, its gone across.

Dan2nd

29-04-2009, 09:06 PM

I don't know if this has already been mentioned but according to BBC news we are now on phase 5 ohhh yeah :8

Hiro

29-04-2009, 09:06 PM

The fact that people are recovering without treatment just blows it all away. Give it a month and everyone will forget..

-:Undertaker:-

29-04-2009, 09:07 PM

stay indoors, dont move, stay on habbo

Don't forget to wear protection aswell, you know aswell as I do Jake from our world meetings which have been all over Sky News when we step off Air Force Rare Values that our word is closely followed, anyways cya i'm flying off to a international conference at the United Nations to discuss how the swine flu is affecting the already shaky habbo rare values market. :8

Anyways yeah level five now, and it has been raised to level five because someone who didn't travel to Mexico has now contracted the disease, confirming it now has the ability to settle in other countries and multiply within that population.

Technologic

29-04-2009, 09:14 PM

Dan2nd

29-04-2009, 09:14 PM

No, just a load of people on this forum are ***** and think the government and worlds health organisation make these decisions and alert you of things and you think its nothing. You deserve to feel the truth not just hear it now.

What a stupid thing to say lol wow we have a future terrorist on our hands here I think :eusa_clap

I don't understand how you want us to react to be honest would you rather the whole world came to a stand still and we all became extreamly paranoid?

The experts you keep talking about keep telling us that we are most likley only going to get a 'mild' illness and will most likley not have to change our life styles and that was quoted straight from what I heard on the news as I've typed this

-:Undertaker:-

29-04-2009, 09:18 PM

The strange thing is, that this comes at a time when the world is in recession just like in the 1930's when the world was in a depression, and what got us out of the depression? - World War II. (just a correlation some might find interesting)

As for the level five, I think the next few days will show whether or not this virus has the potential to be a global pandemic depending on how fast it spreads. Time will tell I guess.

myke

29-04-2009, 09:22 PM

idk- who does it?
hahahahahaha.
yh anyway. it's a big hype about "nothing" sure people have died. but they have from foot n mouth but tht's nt lyk PANDEMIC ERE

PaulMacC

29-04-2009, 09:23 PM

If I die, Tite Kubo is going with me.

xxMATTGxx

29-04-2009, 09:23 PM

LLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL kkkkkk this is just overexagerating and if anyone believes it, shame @ you.

Believe what? That there is a flu going around and killing healthy normal people. Yes, its happening. We shouldn't be all going mad and booking work off but we should be concerned about it. Especially its one level away from the highest one.

Jordulti

29-04-2009, 09:24 PM

I hope the people who don't believe in this and think it's just going to pass over , get it, and suffer miserably.

^ harsh ino.

dirrty

29-04-2009, 09:25 PM

yeah surely its best that their considering the worst instead of under-estimating whats happening and then it all goes completely downhill.

efq

29-04-2009, 09:26 PM

I hope the people who don't believe in this and think it's just going to pass over , get it, and suffer miserably.

^ harsh ino.
I agree with you partly, they just don't believe it because it seems unreal and don't fully understand the situation. Atleast the sensible people on this forum understand.

They don't raise these things for the sake of it or because the media make it seem like its the end of the world. It's because its deadly, scientists know little about it, spreading fast. It hasn't kill as much as predicted yet because its the beginning. It has now proven that you don't need to be in-contact with someone in Mexico or been to Mexico to get the virus.

Skajo

29-04-2009, 09:26 PM

The Who?

(8) You won't get flu again, won't get flu again (8)

Plank

29-04-2009, 09:27 PM

You know a pandemic doesnt have to kill to be devastating...

Imagine, 30 million people with flu, less people at work, shops not opening, deliveries not being made, doctors ill, police ill, firemen ill... Etc...
Yeah, that's what I think some people don't realise. A pandemic relates to how much a disease can spread, not the severity of it.

Dan2nd

29-04-2009, 09:30 PM

What the chinese woman was trying to say is 'We are on level 6 but we don't want to tell you'.

I agree with you partly, they just don't believe it because it seems unreal and don't fully understand the situation. Atleast the sensible people on this forum understand.

Yeah because what you said above and in the other thread is extreamly sensible :rolleyes:

I know it sounds terrible but until people start dieing from the virus in the UK I'll reserve my judgment

buttons

29-04-2009, 09:32 PM

I hope the people who don't believe in this and think it's just going to pass over , get it, and suffer miserably.

^ harsh ino.
Thanks for wishing horrible things on other innocent people, if i get it you'll be first to know :S

Believe what? That there is a flu going around and killing healthy normal people. Yes, its happening. We shouldn't be all going mad and booking work off but we should be concerned about it. Especially its one level away from the highest one.
that if you cough on a surface n u touch it you're going to get it? they may aswell skin everyone alive incase they've touched something n put em all in bubble wrap forgod

xxMATTGxx

29-04-2009, 09:33 PM

Yeah because what you said above and in the other thread is extreamly sensible :rolleyes:

I know it sounds terrible but until people start dieing from the virus in the UK I'll reserve my judgment

So that's nice, so the boy in the USA doesn't count? Yeah surely he visited Mexico. I'm guessing the next few days or next week will truly tell us about the virus. I just hope it doesn't get any worse.

In Spain, officials confirmed the first case of swine flu in a person who has not travelled to Mexico.

that if you cough on a surface n u touch it you're going to get it? they may aswell skin everyone alive incase they've touched something n put em all in bubble wrap forgod

Well, if your hygienic and wash your hands every so often. You shouldn't be really worried. I know what you are trying to say but you can get all sorts for touching dirty surfaces, we just have to be concerned. "Not just anyone who believes in this = shame on you". Because that is not the right way to go about it.

Dan2nd

29-04-2009, 09:34 PM

Yeah, that's what I think some people don't realise. A pandemic relates to how much a disease can spread, not the severity of it.

I didn't want what this guy said in the other thread to go un noticed as I think it makes a very good point. So far no one who has not visited Mexico have died for the Virus (the girl/guy from the US had just come back from Mexico).

^^ to the above

I didn't say anybodys death was more important than anyone elses.. I'm just not going to change my life style or start to get worried until things come closer to home. The person from the US who died had just come back from Mexico though like people from the UK so we just have to wait and see :)

EDIT: Thanks also to whoever sent me the death thread in the form of bad rep :O

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 09:42 PM

I need to PM a few people to meet up for an orgy. It's my dying wish so they have to do it.

Also, saying "people who don't believe in it deserve it" is discusting. Don't play the double negative game, because it just makes you eligible in getting it too.

myke

29-04-2009, 09:44 PM

xxMATTGxx

29-04-2009, 09:45 PM

brb spraying ma detol on everyfink.

DETOL PROTEX.

FAKT!!! kills 99.9 percent of germs, 0.01 of them germs being swine flue

onoez.
I thought a pandemic was lyk u go down the street n lyk 1 in 3 people have it. not 1/million

You do realise its not even on that level yet. Oh and a pandemic is an infectious disease that spreads through the population across a large region.

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), a pandemic can start when three conditions have been met:

* Emergence of a disease new to a population.
* Agents infect humans, causing serious illness.
* Agents spread easily and sustainably among humans.

A disease or condition is not a pandemic merely because it is widespread or kills many people; it must also be infectious. For instance, cancer is responsible for many deaths but is not considered a pandemic, because the disease is not infectious or contagious.

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 09:57 PM

I like how Voiding is blowing a deathly blow on everyone, condemning them to death all because they want proof that this is actually bad. It does appear to be fear mongering. No-one has died outside Mexico other than one child, who went to Texas from Mexico for treatment. The Scottish couple are still alive, and they got it ages ago.

Fez

29-04-2009, 10:03 PM

Really, everyone around us is blowing it out of proportion.Along with the media.

My advice: get on with your lives, if it starts spreading a bit too much, stay indoors.

cocaine

29-04-2009, 10:10 PM

No, just a load of people on this forum are ***** and think the government and worlds health organisation make these decisions and alert you of things and you think its nothing. You deserve to feel the truth not just hear it now.

soo you're wishing death upon those who want to have proof that its as bad as people say its going to be? well done sir.

hahahaha.

N!ck

29-04-2009, 10:57 PM

Hiro

29-04-2009, 10:58 PM

Angel-Light

29-04-2009, 11:01 PM

I agree that the media have blown it out of proportion. The people who died might have had other health problems of low immunity from cold/flu.

I mean they are taking precautions like how the woman went to her work, so her work sent the staff she came in contact with off with some pills. It isn't exactly life threatning as it seems.

I am getting a bit sick of sitting on the bus and people looking at me as if I have the plague (I have a cold which I always get at the start of a new season). Whenever I sniff I get stared at.

We have technology these days to combat anything really, afterall UK has been preparing for something like this to happen. It will all just pass by hopefully and nobody will need to panic :)

Hushie

29-04-2009, 11:20 PM

Look flu has no H1N1 strain, why the hell would they bring this up if it was the same as the flu? Jesus, common sense.

ROFLMAO

H1N1 is the most common cause of the flu.

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 11:35 PM

It's a typical MEDC vs. LEDC argument. MEDCs have better health care while LEDCs have virtually little health care. Mexico probably doesn't vaccine their popularity as much as any MEDC does e.g. UK. You never know, basic vaccines that children have in this country may keep the virus at bay.

Hiro

29-04-2009, 11:40 PM

Can we rename it to Bacon Flu? Sounds so much less harmful, and tastier.

leah

29-04-2009, 11:43 PM

It was on the news earlier, especially the one in Devon as that's closest to me, we have good medicine to cure it anyway so I don't see why everyones so excited about it, it's like foot and mouth all over again.

Sammeth.

29-04-2009, 11:44 PM

Everyones making such a pig issue out of it.

RedStratocas

29-04-2009, 11:51 PM

I agree with you partly, they just don't believe it because it seems unreal and don't fully understand the situation. Atleast the sensible people on this forum understand.

people dont believe it because we've been scare mongered into thinking there was going to be a pandemic numerous times before. just this decade with sars and bird flu.

i think its ridiculous that TENS OF THOUSANDS of people die from the regular flu every year in industrialized countries yet we cause great concern over what is only a potential threat. thats like driving with a flat tire but being worried about running out of gas. if swine flu started killing as many people as the normal flu does every year, people would be freaking the **** out.

btw their disease rating system is as arbitrary and useless as the terrorist threat rating system.

GommeInc

29-04-2009, 11:53 PM

Everyones making such a pig issue out of it.
You and your pork related jokes :P I was going to +rep you eariler for the crackling one, which made me lol :)

Hiro

29-04-2009, 11:53 PM

Everyones making such a pig issue out of it.

Oh, I like that, I really do!

PaintYourTarget

30-04-2009, 12:00 AM

It's a conspiracy to take our minds of the credit crunch, increase government spending and create jobs in the pharmaceutical areas :P.

Well it could be? I think it's a little over exaggerated at the moment. If more people start getting it then it should be level 5.
Aha, except the drugs have already been made and are being stockpiled. But that was my first thought =[

And I'd like so see what measures will be taken. I mean I work in a supermarket, I must be in contact with hundreds of people a shift, even if I'm not affected I'd be able to pass it on to a good thousand or so people in one weekend. Good times.

leah

30-04-2009, 12:02 AM

Everyones making such a pig issue out of it.
lmao sam +rep xo

Ardemax

30-04-2009, 05:59 AM

level 5 or no level 5

its still the same

Ardemax

30-04-2009, 06:07 AM

im srry but this virus is just as dangerous on level 6 or level 1

its the same virus so you cant really base your opinions on how dangerous it is on the fact that WHO raised the level up

Double post caused by thread merging - Garion (Forum Super Moderator)

xxMATTGxx

30-04-2009, 06:56 AM

Swine Flu Advert on British TV has been released can see it on here; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8025994.stm

Pyroka

30-04-2009, 07:55 AM

ITS THE APORKALYPSE! AN EPIGDEMIC!!! OMGS!!!!

Hehe, I'm going into Torquay today so I'll see how long it takes me to catch teh swine flu.

30-04-2009, 09:22 AM

Lol it's in east yorkshire now but I'm not that worried tbh it's unliey that people as young as us will die becos we have young and good immune systems... Let's get a simpl cold now, lose it and the we are immune for A little longer? Lol it's more likely to kill older or really young people but still the chances at low. Those that are worried can just read articles further into this lol.

Georgie-Best

30-04-2009, 09:24 AM

Is it me or does Voiding want everybody to die just so he is right?

Immenseman

30-04-2009, 09:31 AM

ITS THE APORKALYPSE! AN EPIGDEMIC!!! OMGS!!!!

Hehe, I'm going into Torquay today so I'll see how long it takes me to catch teh swine flu.

im safe in ipplepen!! i have to venture out to newton soon though :( r.i.p.

Immenseman

30-04-2009, 09:51 AM

im srry but this virus is just as dangerous on level 6 or level 1

its the same virus so you cant really base your opinions on how dangerous it is on the fact that WHO raised the level up
you're not a big fan of all this hype are you

Double post caused by the merging of two related threads - Garion (Forum Super Moderator)

craig-clarke1

30-04-2009, 09:59 AM

its frightening but so was foot and mouth

Sfinx

30-04-2009, 11:32 AM

First case of Swine flue/Mexican flue in holland. A 3 year old boy.

GommeInc

30-04-2009, 11:58 AM

Swine Flu Advert on British TV has been released can see it on here; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8025994.stm
Oh no! It's just as bad and annoying as the Dettol adverts, because any dirt can KILL. Grrr, makes me want to thump hygienists :@

Hovr

30-04-2009, 12:15 PM

Its gone up to level 5 now? Up one more level and there canceling flights out of the country... IM MEANT TO BE GOING TO GREECE IN MAY :/

efq

30-04-2009, 01:56 PM

Sixth Person in UK confirmed with Swine Flu, possibly a lot more because it was in a University.

efq

30-04-2009, 02:22 PM

27 cases are now under investigation in Scotland. Also 2 In London.

Also now 230 cases under investigation.

Plank

30-04-2009, 02:41 PM

Sixth Person in UK confirmed with Swine Flu, possibly a lot more because it was in a University.
2 more have just been confirmed so that brings it up to 8 now.

GommeInc

30-04-2009, 02:43 PM

Sixth Person in UK confirmed with Swine Flu, possibly a lot more because it was in a University.
Oh great, freshers flu is going to come with a twist now.

cocaine

30-04-2009, 03:04 PM

im pig sick of it now.

Hiro

30-04-2009, 03:09 PM

sock

30-04-2009, 03:14 PM

if it goes to the next level what happens? like does everyone go off school? everyone have to stay in their homes or what?

Plank

30-04-2009, 03:14 PM

More updates...

Recent lab tests have just confirmed that there are now 236 definite cases worldwide. So about 59 new cases have been confirmed.

efq

30-04-2009, 03:22 PM

It depends if it's in your area, Mexico has shut down most things and schools, buildings are closed. So if its a few hundred around in your country then it will likely. Knowing Gordon Brown he won't do nothing and is happy with sending silly leaflets out.

Hiro

30-04-2009, 03:45 PM

Fez

30-04-2009, 03:55 PM

This is gonna get real serious, real fast.

Hiro

30-04-2009, 04:03 PM

This is gonna get real serious, real fast.

Save the cheerleader, save the world. We need to find a cheerleader to stop this virus!

efq

30-04-2009, 04:18 PM

1 Confirmed Swine Flu in Ireland

ecstasy

30-04-2009, 04:21 PM

well isnt this all great. we're all going to die!

not. i cant believe how many people think that. we can cure it, and it gets weaker every time its passed on!

efq

30-04-2009, 04:24 PM

well isnt this all great. we're all going to die!

not. i cant believe how many people think that. we can cure it, and it gets weaker every time its passed on!
No it doesn't and it will eventually be immune from some medicine...

No-one knows everything about this flu, they only know so much.

GommeInc

30-04-2009, 04:30 PM

No it doesn't and it will eventually be immune from some medicine...

No-one knows everything about this flu, they only know so much.
But what we do know is no-one has died outside of Mexico other than for one baby who was from Mexico and being treated in Texas, which doesn't count. What we don't know is, are these people getting better (or at least, I haven't heard of it). Again, they haven't died and they've had it for longer compared to the people who died in Mexico within a few days, which seems to encourage that the virus is useless. Vatalities are what people are looking for, and considering there have been none, it's not worth the worry and it's certainly not worth the time to report how many suspected and actual cases there are. It's like listing people with the winter flu now - pointless.

Infact, the swine flu couple in Scotland are recovering and one is said to be allowed home soon. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/28/swine-flu-scotland-mexico