Doctor Who - Series 5.

[dbgtz]

because he's a smart writer and wants to play with your mind, I mean why would they make it so obvious.

[Jam]

I bet you £20 via PayPal it is the main storyline of the last (2) episode(s).

[Chris]

Bad Wolf didnt pop up as much as this crack has. I'm not sure if its a diversion or not though after that episode.

[Stitch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_(song) - look at the overview (first sentance).

River won't die I think but I like the idea about the new daleks wiping out the old ones, but I doubt it. Also I suspect Amy will be dumped at the end of this series, but I wouldn't know why.l

Also I still think the crack means nothing.

Karen Gillan is staying for next series.


Gillan and her co-star, Matt Smith, have since been confirmed as returning for a second series in 2011, meaning she'll be the first companion actress since Billie Piper to appear as a regular in consecutive seasons, and the first since Sophie Aldred to appear with the same Doctor for more than one season.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Karen_Gillan

[dbgtz]

I bet you £20 via PayPal it is the main storyline of the last (2) episode(s).

No because I don't have money :)

And yes at karen staying :D

[samsaBEAR]

because he's a smart writer and wants to play with your mind, I mean why would they make it so obvious.

i must admit i thought this too. Bad Wolf and Torchwood were both kinda mentioned in passing in their respective series', but the camera always zooms into the crack (that's what she said), so idk

[kk.]

I speculate that River Song is an anagram of something so Moffet can pull a twinky and mess with our heads.

Since Amy doesn't remember the Daleks, time can be changed, I speculate that the supreme Daleks wiped out every inferior Dalek out of the sky. This is why all the cracks exist, init.

Along with this, River will die before she is supposed to, for the dramah! The old guy the Doctor was with, during Forest, will sacrifice himself instead.

Amy will be dumped at the end of series 6, I even predict Moff will go one step ahead and kill her off entirely. Or offer the Doctor a choice, the Earth or Amy or something.

Another thing: if the cracks go both ways, that means all the enemies the Doc has faced in the episodes so far, can come back. I think this will happen in the finale and end up with the Doctor having more than a bad hair day.

With the daleks, you mean because they came in at world war 2, amy shouldve seen them in say 2009, but they wiped them all out before they had a chance to pull all the worlds together. Surely that means that that guy who 'died' (name escapes me) which was in that episode but died, he said something like, you will pay. Maybe he's alive still?

[dbgtz]

Are you on about Davros? Or that robot guy from WWII?

[kk.]

Are you on about Davros? Or that robot guy from WWII?
Davros, that's the beggar! :P

[dbgtz]

Just realising the daleks wouldn't have gone back and wiped out the daleks for several reasons:
1) It kinda destroys every dalek story.
2) the only remaining daleks in time were those who made the new ones so it would be pointless for them to go back and destroy all other daleks as most of them would be wiped out anyway.

[Fez]

Time can be rewritten.

[dbgtz]

no but i mean as a story it would be pretty crap

[Niall!]

Time can be rewritten.

If time was rewritten about the dalek episodes never happening, Rose would be with the Doctor.

[dbgtz]

and if you think about it, they'd go back in time and kill the daleks that created them therefore wiping out the existance of daleks :S

[Fez]

If time was rewritten about the dalek episodes never happening, Rose would be with the Doctor.

Cybermen still came through the void (from Pete's world), so Doc would still have to send them back


and if you think about it, they'd go back in time and kill the daleks that created them therefore wiping out the existance of daleks :S

If they did that then they'd cancel out their own existence, Daleks aren't stupid.

[dbgtz]

but like I said half the stories in doctor who would never have existed
we should really stop debating it as it is not the case, but I can imagine if davros comes back "the new daleks came back and saved me". Still better than 1 fleet survived.

[iBlueBox]

but like I said half the stories in doctor who would never have existed
we should really stop debating it as it is not the case, but I can imagine if davros comes back "the new daleks came back and saved me". Still better than 1 fleet survived.

wibbly wobbly timey wimey!

[dbgtz]

But then the whole idea of the daleks going back is pointless as all that happens is it leading up to the point where they were created and the last crappy daleks were destroyed.

time is so confusing.

[kk.]

But then the whole idea of the daleks going back is pointless as all that happens is it leading up to the point where they were created and the last crappy daleks were destroyed.

time is so confusing.

Basically, it's like if a time machine existed, you can't go back and kill your grandad because it's already happened. But yes, time is confusing :P

also, you've finally changed your name!! I could never tell if you meant mr selena gomez, mrs elena gomez, mrs selena gomez etc etc :P

[Stitch]

Ten... Eleven... (Twelve?) Teasers about Flesh and Stone!

"There's one thing you never, ever put in a trap if you're smart," said The Doctor in the cliffhanger to 'The Time of Angels' (unaware that a caricature of Graham Norton was dancing across his face (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctor-who/news/a216394/doctor-who-fans-angered-by-pop-up-norton.html)).

"..... me." BANG!

So what next? Read on for our ten teasers about the concluding half of the story, 'Flesh and Stone':

1. Eureka! Galileo!

2. Amy: "Basically we've *** up the inside of a *******."

3. The Byzantium contains a forest. Yes, a forest.

4. Amy: "Seven."

5. There's a scene reminiscent of a scene from 'Doomsday'.

6. Amy: "Six."

7. What's the opposite of the moral from 'Blink'?

8. River has done something very, very naughty.

9. There's a very important date you'll want to mark in your diaries/iPhones/Google calendars come the end of this episode.

10. The crack. We finally learn what it is and what it wants.

And, just for fun, a bonus teaser:

11. Amy does something to The Doctor that prompts an epiphany. And a collection.

What do you make of our teasers? Add your comments to this entry below!

(P.S. Amy: "Five...")

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/doctor-who/tubetalk/a216420/ten-teasers-about-flesh-and-stone.html

[dbgtz]

yes info on the crack

[Stitch]

Teaser 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRLZ6lrVFuA but with the crack? It's one of the only scenes I can remember from Doomsday. I haven't watched series 2 in a while.

[Inseriousity.]

What's the moral in Blink? I've been tryna work it out but there isn't really an obvious one.

Don't blink ;) ;) ;) just wink ;) ;) ;)

[Stitch]

What's the moral in Blink? I've been tryna work it out but there isn't really an obvious one.

Don't blink ;) ;) ;) just wink ;) ;) ;)

In the trailer Amy has to keep her eyes closed. I guess instead of "Blink and you're dead" it's "Open your eyes and you're dead".

[Inseriousity.]

That's not really a moral though is it? That's a warning.. hmmm.... oh well its the only thing that seems to fit so probably right tbh :D

[dbgtz]

I think the moral from blink is "trust anyone" because sally trusted the doctor yet he could have been working against her. This could be it as the opposite is "trust no one", so trust no statue to be a statue.

[Dan2nd]

Yeah I don't get why they broke their neck. They kind of reinvented them in some ways such as that and other things. I predicted he would say "me" when he says what not to put in a trap :L

The weeping Angels we saw before were scavengers on a planet thriving with life (us humans) the angels we saw in the episode on Satuday had been trapped in that cave starving for what could have been hundreds of years. They didn't have the power to send them back in time.


She's The Doctor, or a gallifreyan.

Expert at driving the TARDIS, doesn't want the Doctor to find out who she is.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE.

I disagree..

Personally I think she is pretending to be close to the Doctor when she isn't.. so far she has been coming up with stories the Doctor has no knowledge of at all. Personally I think there is something more sinister about her


I thought you couldn't cross timelines tho if she was the doctor? Like the doctor couldn't go back and slap himself?

The Doctor has met himself on more than one occasion.

Doctor 10 & 5 in Time Crash

Doctors 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 in The Five Doctors

Doctors 1, 2 & 3 in the Three Doctor's

[kk.]

The Doctor has met himself on more than one occasion.

Doctor 10 & 5 in Time Crash

Doctors 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 in The Five Doctors

Doctors 1, 2 & 3 in the Three Doctor's

fair enough, i havnt seen the older series' so i wouldnt know about the latter two :P

its strange they can but humans cant? or can they? :S

[Stitch]

I disagree..

Personally I think she is pretending to be close to the Doctor when she isn't.. so far she has been coming up with stories the Doctor has no knowledge of at all. Personally I think there is something more sinister about her

Well she was correct about the Crash of the Byzantiam (Which was Saturday's episode) which was mentioned in Silence in the Library by her.

[Dan2nd]

fair enough, i havnt seen the older series' so i wouldnt know about the latter two :P

its strange they can but humans cant? or can they? :S


well it's one of those grey areas because in series 1 there was an episode called 'Fathers Day' where Doctor 9 & Rose saw themselves and a huge paradox thing happened..

I think in the 3 & 5 Doctors episodes the Time Lords allowed the Doctors to work together to save the Universe but Time Crash can't really be explained... again I think it is one of those awesome things about Doctor who where the only way it can be explained is by saying 'The Doctor is the only one who knows when he can and can't do it' some people hate explanations like this but that's the great thing about Sci-Fi you can just make it up :D!


Well she was correct about the Crash of the Byzantiam (Which was Saturday's episode) which was mentioned in Silence in the Library by her.


I don't think I explained myself very well.. I meant so far we haven't seen an episode where the Doctor knows how he knows her (if that makes sense) I think us the audience are being tricked by Steve Moffat into thinking she is something positive like the Doctor/his wife/his mum so sometime in the future a twist can be added where she turns out to be something darker, something the Doctor won't like

[Stitch]

Probably isn't but it could be because they're different incarnations.

[Fez]

Rumours going around that River is just an evil psycho who steals the Doctor's diary (which he starts writing after so many encounters with her).

[Stitch]

People think she was in prison for killing the 'best man she ever knew'.

[kk.]

Rumours going around that River is just an evil psycho who steals the Doctor's diary (which he starts writing after so many encounters with her).

possibly:

11. Amy does something to The Doctor that prompts an epiphany. And a collection.

[Fez]

People think she was in prison for killing the 'best man she ever knew'.

Doc to regenerate? Last time she saw him he took her to some show and gave her his screwdriver. Maybe before that she had to shoot him, or maybe he asked her to kill him.

I dunno.

I don't think Alex Kingston will stick around, we might see a WAY younger River. Doc going to her childhood and making another Amy-wonder would be fun.

[iBlueBox]

no preview clips today D:

[dbgtz]

na river is a good woguy.
only 3 days to wait anyway.

[Mickword]

TBH I think she is this I found on Google:


Instead of a female Jack Harkness, it could also be a child of Jack's. In the first season, on Satellite 5 there is a news bulletin about The Face of Boe have given birth, and later The Face is described as the last of Boe-kind (by his nurse on New Earth). She has the sonic gun and that was used by Jack Harkness in The Empty Child as well. (There have been an awful lot of references to that episode now that I think about it.)

I also like the theory of River Song being either The Master or the woman who picked up The Master's ring at the end of last season.

**Edit:
I went back and watched The Empty Child, since there are so many references suggesting a review is in order. (The Poison Sky-Doctor wears mask and asks "Are you my mommy?", Doctor's Daughter-Doctor is given the same wound on the back of the hand and the becomes a father, Fires of Pompeii-"It's Volcano Day" this conversation happens in the 2nd part The Doctor Dances, The Digital blast pattern from the gun blast seen by Jack in The Doctor Dances, Fires of Pompeii-"Doctor Who, it's more than just a question" etc...). While re-watching The Empty Child I think I found the answer - Professor River Song is The Doctor's Mother.

Over the course of this season the Doctor has "become" the empty child at times. In The Empty Child The Doctor meets Doctor Constantine (aka the constant doctor). This scene is interesting because The Doctor is led by Doctor Constantine, who has the answers, while The Doctor has the questions. The Doctor also says "this is impossible" a phrase usually uttered by those around The Doctor while he gives the answers to the riddle. Before succumbing to his injuries Dr. Constantine says "Before this war began I was a father and a grandfather, now I'm neither, but I'm still a doctor." This sentence could have been said by The Doctor himself, in fact his response is "Yeah, I know the feeling."

In The Doctor Dances (the 2nd part of The Empty Child) asks "...Always are you my mommy, like he doesn't know. Why doesn't he know?" A questions that could also be about The Doctor, why doesn't he know who he really is? The only logical answer is that he doesn't know his parents.

If River Song is The Doctor's future wife why isn't she WITH him? Why does he only come when she calls? Since he's said countless times how he's rubbish at wedding, commitment, domesticity etc... it's odd that he would marry again. On the other hand, he would come when he Mother needed him, he would give his mother his sonic screwdriver. A mother would call her child "sweetie" as River Song calls The Doctor when she sees him. A mother would tenderly and lovingly caress her child's face. She can't be a Time Lord, because they always recognize each other. So she can't be The Master either. He is a time traveler, who better to give birth to a time traveler than an archaeologist?

Dalek Kahn, the last remaining member of The Cult of Scaro, did an emergency time shift to escape from The Doctor. It's possible he will want to destroy the Doctor by stopping him from ever being born; this might be where The Doctor finally meets his mother.

[Dan2nd]

TBH I think she is this I found on Google:

I don't think she is the Doctor's mother at all ... in Silence in the Library she calls the Doctor 'Sexy' if my mum called me Sexy I'd think it was a little strange :P

[Verrou]

I don't think she is the Doctor's mother at all ... in Silence in the Library she calls the Doctor 'Sexy' if my mum called me Sexy I'd think it was a little strange :P
Pwnd that theory in a single sentence. wd sir.

[Inseriousity.]

TBH I think she is this I found on Google:

Yeah, I agree with The Master (lolol just wanted to say that), too much sexual chemistry between them for them to be mother and son tbh. :p

[dbgtz]

We all know that woman from end of time is the doctors mum.
Plus those empty child references were just for lols, I doubt they put hints through loads of series.

[Fez]

In the TV movie with Paul McGann he sez "My mother was human" or "I'm half-human on my mother's side."

Was kinda peeved since it came across as "DERP IM REUSSLE T DAFIES LETS HAVE THE DOKS MUMMA IN DER FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN 'OMG THAT HIS MUMMA'."

I speculate that we've already met River Song, but I don't know WHO she used to be.

Hope it doesn't turn out to be Amy.

[Stitch]

We all know that woman from end of time is the doctors mum.
Plus those empty child references were just for lols, I doubt they put hints through loads of series.

It was never actually said in the episodes it was his mum.

[Jessicrawrr]

I don't know about everyone else, but I definitley prefer David Tennant to Matt smith!
Matt seems to try to copy David's style of acting.
But fails.

[Lost_Addict]

To the above post, to watch doctor who now ive had to wipe clean about the previous 2 doctors cause i loved them. and if you see it that way, he to is a very goo doctor.

Still want my torchwood >:) lol

[iBlueBox]

But did say in The Writes Tale: The Finale Chapter.

Any way here's the 3 clips:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWkLNAjOfIo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRgLu_SE0zY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZYt6TrxLP4

[Dan2nd]

In the TV movie with Paul McGann he sez "My mother was human" or "I'm half-human on my mother's side."


That is correct however a lot of hard core classic series fans all seem to agree that he said it in jest or as a joke.

Until we meet the Doctor's mother for really I guess we'll never know.

[dbgtz]

the crack is following her!

[Fez]

I don't know about everyone else, but I definitley prefer David Tennant to Matt smith!
Matt seems to try to copy David's style of acting.
But fails.

Hell no. Right now my opinion on Matt is; Tennant who?


It was never actually said in the episodes it was his mum.

On the commentary for The End of Time (on the Doc Who website) T Davie

[Stitch]

On the commentary for The End of Time (on the Doc Who website) T Davie

I thought they were just hinting that it could be his mother and didn't actually say it for definite.

[Fez]

I thought they were just hinting that it could be his mother and didn't actually say it for definite.

The End of Time was pretty awful except from a few moments anyway. I bloody loved the 'four knocks', Tennant's final scene and the cafe scene.

Didn't need the Doc's mother.

[Dan2nd]

Even if Russell T Davies did say it was his mother in the commentary, technically nothing was said about it in the episode, meaning a future writer could come along and make up a new explanation for it as it's not really canon if it wasn't mentioned in the story..

[Fez]

Indeed but the fact there was 10 seconds of the Doctor gawping at the woman hints at something.

Of course it could be ironed over but I'm still insulted by the emotional blackmail.

[Storking]

I can't wait for tomorrows episode, I love the ones that are split over two weeks, plenty of action to look forward to :)

[Shar]

I can't wait for tomorrows episode, I love the ones that are split over two weeks, plenty of action to look forward to :)
ikr! can't wait...I'm starting to really like Matt Smith now

[Stitch]

The End of Time was pretty awful except from a few moments anyway. I bloody loved the 'four knocks', Tennant's final scene and the cafe scene.

Didn't need the Doc's mother.

I liked it when they all spat :P:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Om_PdpX-s#t=10m02s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_Koe4eYeo#t=2m06s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9qAV7M2p8#t=1m45s

New pictures from episode seven (Amy's Choice) here:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/S9kv_RVXEGI/AAAAAAAAKR8/pb7CYeRbw34/s1600/amyschoice2.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/S9kwfo7N2hI/AAAAAAAAKSE/AKJOFxrjX7U/s1600/amyschoice1.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/S9kwgu--JEI/AAAAAAAAKSU/kk9TXn6Aoa4/s1600/amyschoice4.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/S9kwgas21MI/AAAAAAAAKSM/XInzxKHiEGg/s1600/amyschoice3.png

[Black_Apalachi]

The angels are my favourite Doctor Who thing everrrr!!!!!!!! I hate how they seem to make everything so obvious though.

For example, I thought it was obvious all the other statues were also weeping angels, even though for some reason they didn't start to go after them until they realised. I also don't like that it can be any kind of statue, it's better when they're just angels (hence the name).

I'd love for the weeping angels idea to have been thought of by someone else who could have made a really cool film out of it instead of just Doctor Who. I always feel they don't explore concepts well enough and stuff.

[iBlueBox]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1270166/Whos-steamed-Tardis-The-Doctor-shares-passionate-kiss-companion-Amy.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

LMAO,.

[dbgtz]

I like how all of the story coincided with each other, not just constantly made up. Like the gravity bit, how parts of the story affect the story later.
I THINK RIVER KILLS THE DOCTOR (for matts finale).
Why did amy come onto the doctor? LOL SHE TRIED TO DO HIM!

[Stephen]

Next week looks promising

[Chris]

Beastly episode.

Quiet confusing actually. Still getting my head round it.

[Fez]

I like how all of the story coincided with each other, not just constantly made up. Like the gravity bit, how parts of the story affect the story later.
I THINK RIVER KILLS THE DOCTOR (for matts finale).
Why did amy come onto the doctor? LOL SHE TRIED TO DO HIM!

Matt Smith is already filming the next series and has contract is for four years.

The Doctor got laid.

You'll see... in two weeks.

[Dan2nd]

I think they ruined the angels by making them move...

[dbgtz]

I mean matts finale, I didnt say this series hence why i said "matts finale" not the series finale. And I agree with them being ruined by moving.

Overall: Blink > These 2, but that was inevitable.

[Inseriousity.]

I think they ruined the angels by making them move...

Agreed, even making them talk ruined it for me actually :(

but overall, the episode was brill!

[Dan2nd]

Well she did say it was the 'best man she had ever met' which implys it is the Doctor. If it isn't the Doctor it will need to be a pretty awesome character and us the viewers will need to be convinced that he is worthy of being better than the Doctor in her eyes. However if it is the Doctor she kills... the Doctor did say himself that time can be 'unwritten' so perhaps in her current time stream she does kill the Doctor but whatever is on the other side of the cracks 'unwrites' the event from ever happening and alters her time stream.

[dbgtz]

Well she did say it was the 'best man she had ever met' which implys it is the Doctor. If it isn't the Doctor it will need to be a pretty awesome character and us the viewers will need to be convinced that he is worthy of being better than the Doctor in her eyes. However if it is the Doctor she kills... the Doctor did say himself that time can be 'unwritten' so perhaps in her current time stream she does kill the Doctor but whatever is on the other side of the cracks 'unwrites' the event from ever happening and alters her time stream.

AHH maybe that is the finale.

[Shar]

I like how all of the story coincided with each other, not just constantly made up. Like the gravity bit, how parts of the story affect the story later.
I THINK RIVER KILLS THE DOCTOR (for matts finale).
Why did amy come onto the doctor? LOL SHE TRIED TO DO HIM!

LOL ikr
Can't wait for the next episode :D this series looks interesting

[Fez]

Angels didn't talk, Bob did.

I liked it when they moved, I think that they didn't move fast because they weren't sure.

Here's something interesting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q9IWPujQmo

Go to 00:49

Doctor wearing his jacket, and his face and hair is cleany clean.

Either Smith got cold OR this is the Doctor from the future?

EDIT: Here's an image

http://i41.tinypic.com/16c5s9v.jpg

[dbgtz]

Angels didn't talk, Bob did.

I liked it when they moved, I think that they didn't move fast because they weren't sure.

Here's something interesting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q9IWPujQmo

Go to 00:49

Doctor wearing his jacket, and his face and hair is cleany clean.

Either Smith got cold OR this is the Doctor from the future?

EDIT: Here's an image

http://i41.tinypic.com/16c5s9v.jpg

Probs just a basic error.

[Fez]

Probs just a basic error.

In the scene, he's asking Amy to remember what he told her when she was seven, and she doesn't remember.

He also keeps checking to his left, maybe in case his past self sees him then all of timey-wimey will go boom boom.

Was all in one recorded scene, so I don't see why it would be that way. Enough time for Matt to get the jacket on for a later episode.

[samsaBEAR]

Well she did say it was the 'best man she had ever met' which implys it is the Doctor. If it isn't the Doctor it will need to be a pretty awesome character and us the viewers will need to be convinced that he is worthy of being better than the Doctor in her eyes. However if it is the Doctor she kills... the Doctor did say himself that time can be 'unwritten' so perhaps in her current time stream she does kill the Doctor but whatever is on the other side of the cracks 'unwrites' the event from ever happening and alters her time stream.

This is exactly what I thought, like she'd kill him, but then time would be completely re-written so that it doesn't actually happen. Or something like River makes some kind of deal with something that means the Doctor won't die, but she'll always know that one day she's going to kill him

[Niall!]

I would do Amy so hard.

[dbgtz]

I would do Amy so hard.
+REP+REP


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+REP+REP


+REP+REP(when i can).

I agree

[Fez]

I would do Amy so hard.

Wouldn't we all.

[Black_Apalachi]

I think they ruined the angels by making them move...

Yeah I wish we never actually saw them move... or heard them speak. That thing where it speaks via the soldier's voice - and through the walkie-talkie is just dumb. I loved those two episodes but I have to try so hard to avoid over-analysing them. For example I constantly get a sense that stuff has just been thrown in to make the story work - such as how the angels "think she can see them" even though her eyes are closed. This was after the Doctor explained this through the walkie-talkie which the angels could all clearly hear for themselves, so it's a bit stupid.

The angels have always been the best thing in Doctor Who for me and vampires are so boring and dull so I'm not at all looking forward to next week's episode.

[Stephen]

Anyone who doesn't think she is hot as **** are called gays.

Anyway about the ruined because the angels moved... I don't understand how it ruined it? It's normally dark when we see the sudden change of movement and I thought it was a great addition to finally see them move with the lights on!

[Black_Apalachi]

Anyone who doesn't think she is hot as **** are called gays.

Anyway about the ruined because the angels moved... I don't understand how it ruined it? It's normally dark when we see the sudden change of movement and I thought it was a great addition to finally see them move with the lights on!

The flashing freeze-frame style of movement is good but when Amy was alone with her eyes closed and you could see the angels moving normally, it just ruined the whole vibe, if you like.

Also I can't say that I see what everyone else seems to see in her. She's sort of pretty I suppose, but that's about it.

[dbgtz]

Yeah I wish we never actually saw them move... or heard them speak. That thing where it speaks via the soldier's voice - and through the walkie-talkie is just dumb. I loved those two episodes but I have to try so hard to avoid over-analysing them. For example I constantly get a sense that stuff has just been thrown in to make the story work - such as how the angels "think she can see them" even though her eyes are closed. This was after the Doctor explained this through the walkie-talkie which the angels could all clearly hear for themselves, so it's a bit stupid.

The angels have always been the best thing in Doctor Who for me and vampires are so boring and dull so I'm not at all looking forward to next week's episode.

They're not actually vampires I don't think because in the trailer I'm sure he said "if they're not vampires, what are they?".

[kk.]

Yeah I wish we never actually saw them move... or heard them speak. That thing where it speaks via the soldier's voice - and through the walkie-talkie is just dumb. I loved those two episodes but I have to try so hard to avoid over-analysing them. For example I constantly get a sense that stuff has just been thrown in to make the story work - such as how the angels "think she can see them" even though her eyes are closed. This was after the Doctor explained this through the walkie-talkie which the angels could all clearly hear for themselves, so it's a bit stupid.

The angels have always been the best thing in Doctor Who for me and vampires are so boring and dull so I'm not at all looking forward to next week's episode.

I don't think it was her saying I can't find it which alerted them. It was the fact that she was on the ground acting like a blind person. Perhaps they don't understand English, which would back this up I suppose

[Dan2nd]

Anyone who doesn't think she is hot as **** are called gays.

Anyway about the ruined because the angels moved... I don't understand how it ruined it? It's normally dark when we see the sudden change of movement and I thought it was a great addition to finally see them move with the lights on!

Well before you had to use your imagination personally before seeing them move in this episode I thought they looked totally different when you couldn't see them even demon like and I imagined them moving super fast.

[Tristan]

They can't move as quick when as stone than when you can't see them...

I like Matt Smith, not special but he's alright. Really dislike Karen Gillan though. She really annoys me.

[Fez]

Well before you had to use your imagination personally before seeing them move in this episode I thought they looked totally different when you couldn't see them even demon like and I imagined them moving super fast.

Angels weren't sure about Amy, so they tilted their heads slowly so they didn't have to freeze.

[Black_Apalachi]

They're not actually vampires I don't think because in the trailer I'm sure he said "if they're not vampires, what are they?".

I know but still :P


I don't think it was her saying I can't find it which alerted them. It was the fact that she was on the ground acting like a blind person. Perhaps they don't understand English, which would back this up I suppose

Yeah but the Doctor was continuously talking with Angel Bob. And he also talks to them in general at other times so they clearly understand English.

[kk.]

I know but still :P



Yeah but the Doctor was continuously talking with Angel Bob. And he also talks to them in general at other times so they clearly understand English.

Bob was helping the doctor, so I doubt he was telling the angels what they were doing?

[Lost_Addict]

TBH i thought they were a great set of episodes but tbh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEoU3W5LJZI skip too 2:45 in this vid, it owuld of suited the episode so well!

and ive never liekd the supernatual episodes. Werewolfs, Ghosts, Witches and now vampires -.-

[Stitch]

Ten teasers about The Vampires of Venice


1. Rory is halfway through his stag do when The Doctor arrives to collect him. And it's quite an entrance.

2. On entering the TARDIS, Rory doesn't really say what The Doctor wants him to.

3. The First Doctor makes an appearance.

4. The 'vampires' like Amy. Who can blame them? She's delicious!

5. "Where are you from? Did you **** ******* the *****?"

6. Ever wanted to see The Doctor get electrocuted? Luck's in.

7. "Some tiny. Some were as big as the sky."

8. What's 10,000 in number and waiting in the water?

9. Amy enjoys a massive snog with either Rory or The Doctor. Right in front of the other.

10. "All I can **** is... *******."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/doctor-who/tubetalk/a217343/ten-teasers-about-the-vampires-of-venice.html

[dbgtz]

its obvo rory UNLESS time is rewritten so the doctor and amy never kissed.

[crazed]

First doc, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[crazed]

Sorry for double but in the forest, when Amy is talking to the Doctor what happens. That's obviously not the "present" him... Is he from the future? If so, why?

+ I thought it was all about Donna, now Amy :S

[Niall!]

First doc, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

It's an ID card, nothing more.

[Stitch]

First doc, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

This card in this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7UvD1n2K6c

[iBlueBox]

Clip One:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKW9Om3iEHA

Clip Two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIeFNC-C0hg

Clip Three ( the card clip ):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2odUaJnj55E

[Nikki]

do you guys like how they have changed dr.who?
they have brought "sexier" characters into the progamme, i was reading that alot of people have complain after last saturdays show, as its too scary and inappropriate. I personally see the changes in dr.who as the new generation and the change is for the better :)

[Fez]

I liked it when the Doc went "Don't want to run into Casanova."

For those who don't know, Tennant played him in a BBC Drama. Was what got him the Doc role.

"I owe him a chicken."

Hmmm.

[dbgtz]

do you guys like how they have changed dr.who?
they have brought "sexier" characters into the progamme, i was reading that alot of people have complain after last saturdays show, as its too scary and inappropriate. I personally see the changes in dr.who as the new generation and the change is for the better :)

I like it, it's not meant to be a childs show really, more of young teens mainly imo and young teens want sexy :L

[dbgtz]

Alright episode imo, not the best but not total crap.

The next one looks amazing and confusing at the same time.

[Stephen]

Twas alright but I got abit bored through it tbh.

Next weeks looks weird.

"If you die in the dream you wake up in reality"
"So what happens if you die in reality?"

lolz

[Chris]

I thought that was a good epp. Next week looks veryyy confusing.

[Black_Apalachi]

**** have I just missed it? brb should be on sky+ lol

[kk.]

Next weeks looks pretty awesome

[Fez]

Not bad.

Next week will be great.

[Matthew]

i enjoyed todays... but yeah, next weeks looks good!

[Circadia]

lol rory in this weeks ep you can tell he was soooooooo jealous of the doctor . next weeks ep looks entirely confusing " if you die in your dream you wake up in reality" " What happens if you die in reality?" " you die thats why its called reality!" hehe :)

[Inseriousity.]

Found it boring lol :(

[MJJ]

^ Same, I got pretty bored of it as well.

I haven't been too fond of the episodes so far to be honest. Next weeks episode looks good though. :)

[dbgtz]

Yeah this series as a whole aint been great. I actually think it would have been better with russel as head writer :S

[Fez]

Teething problems methinks, Moffat finding his legs. Judge the series when it's finished; tis what I'm doing.

[Lost_Addict]

This episode was total poo TBH lmao

But next weeks looks brill luckily XD

[crazed]

Well, the Doctor sure knows how to make an appearance... :D

I thought tonights was ace. Next weeks looks pritty good :)

I don't like it when the "boyfriends" tag along. I hated it when Mickey "****-blocked" the Dr with Rose now Rory is doing it :@

[dbgtz]

i gotta admit i did not expect that
i thought amy would see the stripper doing something to him and shed by hypocritical and say "how dare you" and all that crap

[crazed]

i gotta admit i did not expect that
i thought amy would see the stripper doing something to him and shed by hypocritical and say "how dare you" and all that crap



I hoped she would pop out of the cake as soon as I saw it.. You can tell it's not just a childs show any more..


The reference of naked girls on that chaps laptop on the first episode, the one night stand on the previous one and now this!

[ecstasy]

silence. dun dun dunnnnn
ep was alright, next weeks looks ace though

[Chris]

I hoped she would pop out of the cake as soon as I saw it.. You can tell it's not just a childs show any more..


The reference of naked girls on that chaps laptop on the first episode, the one night stand on the previous one and now this!

And the bit in tonights epp where Rory says 'yours is bigger than mine' and the doc says 'lets not go there'. of course they where talking about the torch. :p

[Stephen]

did you kiss her back

no i kissed her mouth

[Fez]

And the bit in tonights epp where Rory says 'yours is bigger than mine' and the doc says 'lets not go there'. of course they where talking about the torch. :p

THE DOCTOR HAS A BIGGER PENIS THAN RORY.

/captainobvious

On reflection; this was a very funny-filled episode.

[Dan2nd]

I found myself now clearly able to see the differences between Doc 10 and Doc 11 in this episode David Tennant would have been shouting, offering to take the aliens to a new planet etc Doc 11 seemed to be a lot more calm in my opinion.

[Wig44.]

I think the show is still tween oriented, the adult humour is too overt for it to be primarily aimed at adults.

[Black_Apalachi]

Most cheesiest episode I have ever seen. Full of flaws (I usually allow a fair amount with Doctor Who but that just took the piss). I would definitely say that episode was a thorn between two roses by the looks of next week's...

[Niall!]

Oh Prisoner Zero, you so crazy.

http://i44.tinypic.com/swwsja.jpg

Why is Prisoner Zero a statue in Venice?

[Fez]

WHAT IS GOING ON. GODDAMNIT MOFFAT.

[kk.]

The eyes too big to be prisoner zero. And it looks strange :S hmm will have to see lol

[dbgtz]

Looks like an easter egg to me.

[Niall!]

OH MOFFAT, YOU SO CLEVER

http://i40.tinypic.com/npq33k.jpg

[Black_Apalachi]

Oh Prisoner Zero, you so crazy.

http://i44.tinypic.com/swwsja.jpg

Why is Prisoner Zero a statue in Venice?

How do you know it is? Have we seen what he looks like? I can't remember lol

[Verrou]

Multiple times in episode one.

[Lost_Addict]

Surley it's just a statue of the fish peoples race??

Or am i being to obvious here lol

[kk.]

Im not sure tbh lol

http://i44.tinypic.com/swwsja.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/918/68282710.png
http://combom.doctorwhonews.info/pictures/prisoner0.jpg


definitely got the same teeth as 0 but whys it such a strange shape :S

[Jam]

Noticed the clouds/sky but not that figure. It looks like the latter half of the neck is under a cloak or something instead of it being a body.

[Black_Apalachi]

Surley it's just a statue of the fish peoples race??

Or am i being to obvious here lol

That's what I thought lol. The eyes are too far forward to be Prisoner Zero.

[ecstasy]

It looks nothing like Prisoner Zero and being a statue of the 'fish from space' makes much more sense. Dont think it matters that much anyway

[Stitch]

3 clips from Amy's Choice!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zrFE69hQ2g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EomYiG968uk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9RL4ugqi7A

[Stitch]

Ten Teasers


1. The episode starts with a heavily pregnant Amy and a ponytailed-Rory pottering around their little cottage in a country village.

2. The TARDIS arrives, and The Doctor catches up with his two old friends. "You've swallowed a planet," The Doctor tells Amy.

3. The trio fall asleep on a bench then wake up in the TARDIS, which promptly loses power while on collision course with a star that's burning cold.

4. The mischievous Dream Lord appears on board and tells The Doctor that there are two worlds - one real, one false - and they must identify the real one or face deadly consequences. And therein is the setup for this episode. Cue much "flashing" between both worlds...

5. Fans of a now-defunct DAB station will be happy.

6. In the village scenario, Rory has become a proper doctor.

7. There's a distinct lack of love for The Doctor's bow-tie in this episode.

8. Poor Rory - he's variously referred to as "the gooseberry" and "pointy-nose".

9. Pints in the air: "There was an old Doctor from Gallifrey..."

10. They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Well, in this case, the eye is in the mouth of the beholder!

[Stephen]

hitting an old lady = this episode is win

[dbgtz]

i missed the beginning *cri*

[Stephen]

I liked it. And I liked the twist at the end. So obviously guessable but I just went along with it.

The only thing I hate about this new series is that they are all basically on earth? I want planets!

[Chris]

One of my favorite episodes of the series. The old people reminded me of zombies.

Next week looks ok.

[Jam]

Need to watch it again, didn't fully understand the end.

[Fez]

Doctor saw the Dream Lord as his reflection in the console.

First Time Lord Victorious. Then scaring his friends.

He's becoming the Valeyard.

[samsaBEAR]

didn't really like this episode, i don't like rory either, he annoys me

[ecstasy]

so erm, why did that stuff in the tardis that 'must have been there for ages' make them all dreamy? and why/how is the doctor the dream lord?

[Fez]

so erm, why did that stuff in the tardis that 'must have been there for ages' make them all dreamy? and why/how is the doctor the dream lord?

The dreamy weamy pollen boosts the Doctor's massive psychic ability.

The Dream Lord is an embodiment of every mistake and ill thing the Doctor has done or is. He's the Valeyard, really.

[Lost_Addict]

Tbh this is one of ony two good episodes of this season, no prizes for guessing the other. The season overal has been a let down but the phycology behind this episode makes it an epic win

[ecstasy]

rewatched the end on iplayer, makes sense now. i missed the part about feeding on darkness

[Fez]

Mini revoows

Eleventh Hour - 9/10
Beast Below - 4/10
Victory of the Daleks - 3/10
The Time Of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 10/10
Vampires of Venice - 7/10
Amy's Choice - 8/10

[Lost_Addict]

Mini revoows

Eleventh Hour - 9/10
Beast Below - 4/10
Victory of the Daleks - 3/10
The Time Of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 10/10
Vampires of Venice - 7/10
Amy's Choice - 8/10

Nic Idea heres mine:

Eleventh Hour - 7/10
Beast Below - 6/10
Victory of the Daleks - 3/10
The Time Of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 10/10
Vampires of Venice - 2/10
Amy's Choice - 9/10

I couldn't stand that vampire episode lol.

[Fez]

Nic Idea heres mine:

Eleventh Hour - 7/10
Beast Below - 6/10
Victory of the Daleks - 3/10
The Time Of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 10/10
Vampires of Venice - 2/10
Amy's Choice - 9/10

I couldn't stand that vampire episode lol.

Wasn't that bad. Lots of jokes and Rory was alright, just a lot of wibblywobbly plot plot.

DOCTOR CLIMBS A TOWER, MOVES A FEW THINGS.

SAVES THE DAY

CGI and villain were awful.

[Lost_Addict]

The only bits i remotley liked about the episode were the quips, and the homage to the first doctor.

The Plot, CGI and villian were all terrible.

But i never really have liked the supernatual episode. For me it takes away part of the Sci-Fi element

[Niall!]

Eleventh Hour - 8/10
Beast Below - 7/10
Victory of the Daleks - 6/10
The Time Of Angels - 8/10
Flesh and Stone - 9/10
Vampires of Venice - 7/10
Amy's Choice - 10/10

[Niall!]

Eleventh Hour - 8/10
Beast Below - 7/10
Victory of the Daleks - 6/10
The Time Of Angels - 8/10
Flesh and Stone - 9/10
Vampires of Venice - 7/10
Amy's Choice - 10/10

[Stitch]

Eleventh Hour - 9/10
Beast Below - 6/10
Victory of the Daleks - 4/10
The Time Of Angels - 10/10
Flesh and Stone - 9/10
Vampires of Venice - 7/10
Amy's Choice - 8/10

[Black_Apalachi]

I loved this episode up until the point where;

Amy decided the best way of committing suicide was driving a van into a wall at about 10mph and the Doctor decided to get in the van with her even though he is immortal?! ***?!


Nic Idea heres mine:

Eleventh Hour - 7/10
Beast Below - 6/10
Victory of the Daleks - 3/10
The Time Of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 10/10
Vampires of Venice - 2/10
Amy's Choice - 9/10

I couldn't stand that vampire episode lol.

I agree with this completely. I'm going to sort of erase the Vampire episode from my memory because it's a huge thorn in this rather spectacular series.

[Inseriousity.]

I loved this episode up until the point where;
Amy decided the best way of committing suicide was driving a van into a wall at about 10mph and the Doctor decided to get in the van with her even though he is immortal?! ***?!


it's a dream ;) anything's possible

Anyway seen as we're doing ratings I might as well do the same:

Eleventh Hour - 8/10
Beast Below - 7/10
Victory of Daleks - 2/10
Time of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 9/10
Vampires of Venice - 3/10
Amy's Choice - 9/10

:)

[dbgtz]

I think this episode was a fail tbh and I'm not really looking forward to the next one, tbh this series has been a drag imo in comparison and I really think RTD> Moffat(sp) when it comes to long term stories. I'd rather have recycling then fish from space

Eleventh Hour - 9.5/10
Beast Below - 6/10
Victory of the Daleks - 4/10
The Time Of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 8/10
Vampires of Venice - 5/10
Amy's Choice - 8/10

[Kyle]

Eleventh Hour - 8/10
Beast Below - 1/10 ~ the guys on the walls made it terrible. Faces weren't even scary!
Victory of the Daleks - 4/10
The Time Of Angels - 8/10
Flesh and Stone - 8/10
Vampires of Venice - 5/10
Amy's Choice - 9/10

[Niall!]

I think this episode was a fail tbh and I'm not really looking forward to the next one, tbh this series has been a drag imo in comparison and I really think RTD> Moffat(sp) when it comes to long term stories. I'd rather have recycling then fish from space

Eleventh Hour - 9.5/10
Beast Below - 6/10
Victory of the Daleks - 4/10
The Time Of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 8/10
Vampires of Venice - 5/10
Amy's Choice - 8/10

Not looking forward to the silurians? What's wrong with you?

[Fez]

About the '10mph drive into wall'

Doctor can regenerate, but only if he's not killed again. More than likely, the crash knocked him out while splatting his brains all over.

I don't see why there's all hate for this episode.

Moffat is doing well.

[Special]

don't like this new doctor

i loves the david tenant ones though

then again i've grown out of it i guess so its nothing personal to the new doc :)

[kk.]

I agree with the person who said something about it all taking place on earth! I dislike this because it seems like they're not being very imaginative..

[Lost_Addict]

About the '10mph drive into wall'

Doctor can regenerate, but only if he's not killed again. More than likely, the crash knocked him out while splatting his brains all over.

I don't see why there's all hate for this episode.

Moffat is doing well.

Theres been no hate for this episode?, the lowest rating its been given is 8/10 XD

[Fez]

Theres been no hate for this episode?, the lowest rating its been given is 8/10 XD

Here.


I think this episode was a fail tbh

I honestly don't see one problem with it. The ending was great.

[Lost_Addict]

Thats one person and they didnt justify why so there opinion is not valid haha XD

[iBlueBox]

Just got £80! To Buy Tickets To See Doctor Who Live ;D I'm seriously going to be on that phone friday morning to buy

[Black_Apalachi]

I think I do prefer Matt Smith over David Tennant though. I love the scenes where the Doctor loses his temper or puts his foot down on making Amy do what he says for her own safety because you get to see some real emotion from him and I don't think Tennant was as good at Smith in this department.

[Lost_Addict]

Just got £80! To Buy Tickets To See Doctor Who Live ;D I'm seriously going to be on that phone friday morning to buy

Sorry how do you see doctor who live? or is it some sort of stage pergormance.. infact im going to look it up now.

[kk.]

I think I do prefer Matt Smith over David Tennant though. I love the scenes where the Doctor loses his temper or puts his foot down on making Amy do what he says for her own safety because you get to see some real emotion from him and I don't think Tennant was as good at Smith in this department.

i agree. I remember in the last series' (cant remember when) someone pointed out to him he used them as his soldiers, and i think, possibly, that hes trying not to do that now

[Fez]

Amy is developing as a character, personality wise, but it's a bit late.

[iBlueBox]

Sorry how do you see doctor who live? or is it some sort of stage pergormance.. infact im going to look it up now.

not a stage show, an arena show!

www.doctorwholive.com

[Chris]

New videos ahoy! :eusa_danc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdiBlKejFy4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90uno6edApw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMePLyV1ssA

[dbgtz]

Why I didn't like amys choice:
Huge plot errors
- why split them up in worlds? he knows they will just go save amy and what not.
- when the dr blows up the tardis he says its coz he "knows him", so why not just tell amy and rory that at the start and blow up both worlds

i cant remember it much no more but it was v boring generally tbh.

[Fez]

Why I didn't like amys choice:
Huge plot errors
- why split them up in worlds? he knows they will just go save amy and what not.
- when the dr blows up the tardis he says its coz he "knows him", so why not just tell amy and rory that at the start and blow up both worlds

i cant remember it much no more but it was v boring generally tbh.

1. What do you mean split them up in worlds? You mean when Dream Lord keeps Amy? I think the Doctor needed time and he needed to see the 'BIG CRACK IN THE DREAM' he was talking about, so he left Amy behind.

2. He didn't know from the start, he only figured it out nearer the end. He was probably working out 'Ice Star? Lolwut' in his head for forty minutes.

I don't see what was boring about it. Hitting old ladies and the very interesting Dream Lord. Good ep.

[Fez]

Why I didn't like amys choice:
Huge plot errors
- why split them up in worlds? he knows they will just go save amy and what not.
- when the dr blows up the tardis he says its coz he "knows him", so why not just tell amy and rory that at the start and blow up both worlds

i cant remember it much no more but it was v boring generally tbh.

1. What do you mean split them up in worlds? You mean when Dream Lord keeps Amy? I think the Doctor needed time and he needed to see the 'BIG CRACK IN THE DREAM' he was talking about, so he left Amy behind.

2. He didn't know from the start, he only figured it out nearer the end. He was probably working out 'Ice Star? Lolwut' in his head for forty minutes.

I don't see what was boring about it. Hitting old ladies and the very interesting Dream Lord. Good ep.

[dbgtz]

1. maybe

2. but he said he knows him, not he knows ice stars dont exist.

[Lost_Addict]

1. maybe

2. but he said he knows him, not he knows ice stars dont exist.

I think when the Dr. sais he knows him what he means is he just figured out who he was. It's like someone saying Hi to you and you cant remember who that person was until a while later yoru brain kicks in and goes ohh its larry from the baker

Anyway IMO it was 1 of only 2(3) good episodes this season so far.

[Black_Apalachi]

1. What do you mean split them up in worlds? You mean when Dream Lord keeps Amy? I think the Doctor needed time and he needed to see the 'BIG CRACK IN THE DREAM' he was talking about, so he left Amy behind.

2. He didn't know from the start, he only figured it out nearer the end. He was probably working out 'Ice Star? Lolwut' in his head for forty minutes.

I don't see what was boring about it. Hitting old ladies and the very interesting Dream Lord. Good ep.

Lol, bold bit. :P Yeah he slowly worked it out based on the behaviour of the Dream Lord and various things he said. Splitting them up was just a bit more fun for the Dream Lord - and we could see how he was subtly making advances towards Amy so I'm guessing this relates to how, deep down, the Doctor wishes he could be with her but his morals tell him it will only lead to unhappiness when she eventually ages and dies.

[Stitch]

The BBC has revealed the episode titles for the series finale of Doctor Who.

The two-part story is penned by Steven Moffat and will air June 19 and June 26 on BBC One. The first episode is called 'The Pandorica Opens' and the second 'The Big Bang'.

Alex Kingston will reprise her role as River Song for the finale, which is also thought to include appearances from The Daleks, The Cybermen and The Sontarans.

In the US, the finale will air June 26 and July 3 on BBC America.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctor-who/news/a220779/doctor-who-finale-titles-revealed.html

[Chris]

If it is cybermen, daleks and sontarans then it will be a mini war like it was in the last of series 2.

Cant wait.

[dbgtz]

It'll be like series 2 on drugs.
Why does it not say the UK air dates?

[Lost_Addict]

It'll be like series 2 on drugs.
Why does it not say the UK air dates?

it does

The two-part story is penned by Steven Moffat and will air June 19 and June 26 on BBC One

[samsaBEAR]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I wish the writers would write new monsters. Daleks and Cybermen are boring

[dbgtz]

it does

The two-part story is penned by Steven Moffat and will air June 19 and June 26 on BBC One

Oh wow I feel so stupid right now for missing that :L

I also agree with the above, all series finales so far featured something recycled. BE ORIGINAL.

[Stitch]

Ten teasers:


1. Amy and Rory are expecting to arrive in Rio when The Doctor mistakenly lands them in a Welsh village in the year 2020. Yes, it's just an excuse to see Amy in a tiny skirt for the next two episodes but let's agree to overlook that.

2. Immediately The Doctor senses that there's something unusual with the ground below them. There's something wrong with the grass, too.

3. Pay attention to the script very early on in this episode. A lot of the lines will have added poignancy after the story is done with.

4. The Doctor loves a big ****** *****.

5. Nasreen Chaudhry (Meera Syal) is heading up a team that has drilled further into the Earth than anyone has before, 21km deep. Unfortunately her drilling has disturbed something below...

6. The Earth is pretty hungry. Ravenous in fact. It consumes Amy and it's still got the munchies!

7. Shameless! Plug! For! Sherlock!

8. The Doctor: "Silence. Absolute silence."

9. When The Doctor comes face to face with a Silurian, she claims to be the last of her species.

10. The Doctor: "Nobody **** today."

[dbgtz]

1. Amy and Rory are expecting to arrive in Rio when The Doctor mistakenly lands them in a Welsh village in the year 2020. Yes, it's just an excuse to see Amy in a tiny skirt for the next two episodes but let's agree to overlook that.

I like this one :)

[Inseriousity.]

number 10, nobody dies today

sure I saw that in a clip somewhere

[Black_Apalachi]

... which is also thought to include appearances from The Daleks, The Cybermen and The Sontarans.

BOOORRRRRIIINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG


I've said it before and I'll say it again, I wish the writers would write new monsters. Daleks and Cybermen are boring

Thank you. Daleks aren't even good, there is no way they would really be the worst type of creature in all of time and space.

[kk.]

Once again, two more episodes which are on earth. :(

[Black_Apalachi]

Once again, two more episodes which are on earth. :(

I know yeah. I was saying to my mate before, it's kind of odd how a Timelord who can travel to any point in the history of the Universe seems to spend most of his time on Earth - and even that is mostly in the UK, and more specifically London.

[kk.]

I know yeah. I was saying to my mate before, it's kind of odd how a Timelord who can travel to any point in the history of the Universe seems to spend most of his time on Earth - and even that is mostly in the UK, and more specifically London.

Exactly, and it's shot in Wales so it's weird lol. I mean yeh, he likes earth, and likes to steal red headed girls n stuff buy like, at least take them as far away as possible. No stealing skills at all :P

[Black_Apalachi]

I'm pretty sure Earth isn't exactly the most glamorous place in the universe either :P

[dbgtz]

I think the doctor should get some form of an alien companion, proper alien not alien who looks like human.

[Fez]

Less girly "omg i love u doctor" companions, more CAPTAIN JACK HARKNESS or someone from a different time period.

[dbgtz]

Less girly "omg i love u doctor" companions, more CAPTAIN JACK HARKNESS or someone from a different time period.

That's why I loved donna

[samsaBEAR]

Less girly "omg i love u doctor" companions, more CAPTAIN JACK HARKNESS or someone from a different time period.
I miss Jack

[Fez]

Well that was okay.

[dbgtz]

quite humerous, not bad
i hate the aliens, theyre kick ass with the mask but when u see their face its just like "oh human fish how original"

[LoveToStack]

Well that was okay.

Just barely. I'm getting tired of the whole "I'm the doctor, just trust me herp derp". Also this series all but 2 eps have been set on earth, including the monster below because that was 'UK in space'.
Just wanted to punch that boy in the face. Oh and "it's ok to be dyslexic", it's dr who not bloody blue peter.
The lizard men POV cam was a straight rip from predator. Worst ep so far.

[samsaBEAR]

I don't understand how he knew the kid was dyslexic, was that said before that scene and I missed it? I thought it was fairly good, I still hate Rory a lot though.

[LoveToStack]

I don't understand how he knew the kid was dyslexic, was that said before that scene and I missed it? I thought it was fairly good, I still hate Rory a lot though.

Yeah the kid told him he was dyslexic then proceeded to run through a dark empty town in pursuit of flashy-light headphones, leading me to believe he was in fact mentally ******ed.

[samsaBEAR]

Yeah the kid told him he was dyslexic then proceeded to run through a dark empty town in pursuit of flashy-light headphones, leading me to believe he was in fact mentally ******ed.
Ha, I managed to completely miss that part, how odd. Thanks :)

[dbgtz]

Just barely. I'm getting tired of the whole "I'm the doctor, just trust me herp derp". Also this series all but 2 eps have been set on earth, including the monster below because that was 'UK in space'.
Just wanted to punch that boy in the face. Oh and "it's ok to be dyslexic", it's dr who not bloody blue peter.
The lizard men POV cam was a straight rip from predator. Worst ep so far.

No the dalek one is the worst. Yes lets make new daleks out of a recording of the doctor saying something

I'd like to point out amy wore shorts not a skirt :(

[Inseriousity.]

Didn't think it was that bad but the whole season just feels underwhelming :(
This time last series (with donna) was silence in the library and that was 'wow'. this 2 parter left me not caring what happens next.

[dbgtz]

im hoping the finale is what brings this series to awesomeness
new writer please i do not like moffat/moffet w/e the hell he is. Hes a one trick pony.

[samsaBEAR]

Russell T Davis was far superior I think. Moffat's best story was the original Blink one imo

[luce]

i haven't got into it until the last 2 episodes mainly because i have been out but then again i was a fan of david but this doctor is just as good imp :)

[Mikey]

This new doctor has put me off doctor who all together tbh. I miss david tennant :(

[Fez]

Matt Smith trumps Tennant, he'll get his day.
Karen Gillian is a great actress, but she has been given the role of "DOCTOR'S LOVER 113#" and generally become a plot device.
Rory is ok. Arthur Darville and just the Doc together would be much better.
The Beast Below was the worst episode so far.

[Black_Apalachi]

I'm sorry but dismissing the fact that the centre of the Earth is a molten core and replacing it with the fantasy of a whole civilisation secretly living underground kind of destroys a huge amount of the laws of psychics as we know them. Anyway I couldn't help cringing at almost every scene of that. It looked exactly like one of the 1970s Tom Baker episodes. The only difference is the type of cameras that are used today which make the picture look different to how it was back then - everything else from the set to the 'alien' was just horrible. Sooner or later the Doctor will have to meet a species which isn't exactly the same size and shape as a human or similar enough for a human to fit nicely inside the costume.


Just barely. I'm getting tired of the whole "I'm the doctor, just trust me herp derp". Also this series all but 2 eps have been set on earth, including the monster below because that was 'UK in space'.
Just wanted to punch that boy in the face. Oh and "it's ok to be dyslexic", it's dr who not bloody blue peter.
The lizard men POV cam was a straight rip from predator. Worst ep so far.

Summed it up perfectly.


Russell T Davis was far superior I think. Moffat's best story was the original Blink one imo

Agreed. And I also hate Rory.

[Niall!]

Anyway I couldn't help cringing at almost every scene of that. It looked exactly like one of the 1970s Tom Baker episodes.

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT?

[Lost_Addict]

Sorry IMo there is no episode worse than Vampire Of Venice followed by the Darlek one and i Doubt there ever will be they were that bad.

This episode was ok, pretty averga. Only reason i say that is 'cause the next time looks good and they found another excuse to keep amy wearing bugger all hah XD

[crazed]

This episode sucked. It was just too slow. :/ Tbh, it shouldn't span over 2 episodes.

[samsaBEAR]

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT?

Because this is 2010, not 1970.

[-Nick]

you know i a well big fan of doctor who have any of you guys gone in the tardis i have and i love all the vidios speacillyseris 5 :D

[Fifteen]

yesterday's episode genuinely scared me, had to turn my light on, LOL ***.
Dammit Doctor Who need to stop it with the two-parter episodes, want now.

[Niall!]

Because this is 2010, not 1970.

Yes, but you are looking down on the old series for some reason, which is idiotic since it is vastly superior to new who.

[Fez]

Yes, but you are looking down on the old series for some reason, which is idiotic since it is vastly superior to new who.

More than agreed.

New Who is more of a... remake, in my mind. Obviously it keeps in the same lore but it adds too much of a 21st century flair.

If it was a 'period dramaTHING' then yeah, it would mould with the old series.

[Rozi]

Didn't think it was that bad but the whole season just feels underwhelming :(
This time last series (with donna) was silence in the library and that was 'wow'. this 2 parter left me not caring what happens next.

that was good episode, but compared to the pile of **** that was this episode, it was bloody epic.

I thought this was possibly the worse episode of the series, with the one with the colourful darleks a close 2nd. Absolutely ridiculously bad, with the 2 only good moments being the few last minutes where Amy woke up underground, which was completely undermined by the doctor seeing the underground city, and the tension built up when the boy went to get his headphones, which was completely undermined by the complete stupidity of the plot. Also not enough fuss was make over the old man being like licked (:S) and the scene where the alien was talking to Rory, the old man and the stupid woman was completely ridiculous with a tonne of inexcusably bad acting.

[samsaBEAR]

Yes, but you are looking down on the old series for some reason, which is idiotic since it is vastly superior to new who.

Woah, I'm not looking down on the old series at all. I'm just saying that considering this is updated and new and stuff, the writers should actually think to include newer ongoing evil monsters, instead of just bringing back the Daleks every series. It kinda saps the fun/excitement out of seeing them when you know that even if they all die in an episode, they'll definitely come back.

[Lost_Addict]

Woah, I'm not looking down on the old series at all. I'm just saying that considering this is updated and new and stuff, the writers should actually think to include newer ongoing evil monsters, instead of just bringing back the Daleks every series. It kinda saps the fun/excitement out of seeing them when you know that even if they all die in an episode, they'll definitely come back.

Agreed they should of left them for atleast 2 series, along with the cybermen to make them feel truley special when they returned.

[Black_Apalachi]

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT?

Hang on don't get me wrong - I've applauded previous episodes for keeping the feel of Doctor Who's roots alive but this episode went beyond that and just seemed extremely tacky. Not just the fail-ness of the 'monster' thing, but even the acting was especially terrible in this one. For example what was the deal with the church door? It was apparently stuck so they were all trying to open it but it's not until Rory of all people - the biggest weakling I've ever seen - lays his little finger on the bloody thing and it flies open. Then later on the kid eventually manages to open it pretty much by himself. And at the beginning when the guy was being pulled into the hole - he escaped for a second but then turned round and left his leg handing over it before trying to crawl away? :S

[Stitch]

SFX Doctor Who Preview:

1. Some advice: don’t go out in the sun and tape this one to watch later. Stay in and watch it live.
2. It’s much, much better than the first part. Though that’s largely due to stunning developments in the arc plot, not the Silurian storyline.
3. You may suddenly find yourself half-expecting to see the Moxx of Balhoon trundling in through a doorway.
4. A reference to a vegetable will make long-term fans smile.
5. Something that last happened millions upon millions of years ago happens again. Though it’s not as memorable as last time.
6. A phrase popularised by Sir Alex Ferguson is used twice.
7. The Doctor finds a use for the sonic screwdriver that would have really come in handy about, ooh, a million times before.
8. A prophecy is fulfilled.
9. You might find yourself remembering a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias…
10. … And thinking, “Oh no, not again”.
11. At one point, the Doctor pulls out something that’ll make your jaw drop. It’s a sign of what is to come. Well, part of it…

[samsaBEAR]

SFX Doctor Who Preview:

1. Some advice: don’t go out in the sun and tape this one to watch later. Stay in and watch it live.
2. It’s much, much better than the first part. Though that’s largely due to stunning developments in the arc plot, not the Silurian storyline.
3. You may suddenly find yourself half-expecting to see the Moxx of Balhoon trundling in through a doorway.
4. A reference to a vegetable will make long-term fans smile.
5. Something that last happened millions upon millions of years ago happens again. Though it’s not as memorable as last time.
6. A phrase popularised by Sir Alex Ferguson is used twice.
7. The Doctor finds a use for the sonic screwdriver that would have really come in handy about, ooh, a million times before.
8. A prophecy is fulfilled.
9. You might find yourself remembering a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias…
10. … And thinking, “Oh no, not again”.
11. At one point, the Doctor pulls out something that’ll make your jaw drop. It’s a sign of what is to come. Well, part of it…
That's what she said

[Fez]

Oh no.

Prophecy fulfilled

Dalek Caan from way back in Journey's End

One will still die (companion)

My money is on

Rory

[Stitch]

4. A reference to a vegetable will make long-term fans smile.

http://www.dollymix.tv/peter%20davidson%20from%20doctor%20who.jpg

[Black_Apalachi]

SFX Doctor Who Preview:

1. Some advice: don’t go out in the sun and tape this one to watch later. Stay in and watch it live.
2. It’s much, much better than the first part. Though that’s largely due to stunning developments in the arc plot, not the Silurian storyline.
3. You may suddenly find yourself half-expecting to see the Moxx of Balhoon trundling in through a doorway.
4. A reference to a vegetable will make long-term fans smile.
5. Something that last happened millions upon millions of years ago happens again. Though it’s not as memorable as last time.
6. A phrase popularised by Sir Alex Ferguson is used twice.
7. The Doctor finds a use for the sonic screwdriver that would have really come in handy about, ooh, a million times before.
8. A prophecy is fulfilled.
9. You might find yourself remembering a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias…
10. … And thinking, “Oh no, not again”.
11. At one point, the Doctor pulls out something that’ll make your jaw drop. It’s a sign of what is to come. Well, part of it…

Link to this? Also does number 1 actually mean anything or is it just to make the BBC get higher ratings?

[Stitch]

Link to this? Also does number 1 actually mean anything or is it just to make the BBC get higher ratings?

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/05/25/doctor-who-preview/

I dunno about number 1. Either they think it's amazing and you shouldn't wait to watch it, they want the BBC to get higher ratings or theres something in the episode which would only make sense if you watch it live.

[Black_Apalachi]

Thanks. Hmm, sounds weird.

[crazed]

That's what she said

+REP+REP+REP LOLLLLLL


Looks better than the first. I hated it :/

[Dan2nd]

Matt Smith reminds me a bit of Patrick Troughton and Sylvester Mccoy mixed together.. oh and I think I read that these Aliens (The Silurian's) in 'the hungry earth' reminded someone of the classic series I think you'll find they have changed a lot since the Doctor last saw them. This is what they looked like on their last encounter during the classic series

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Silurian.jpg

[kk.]

SFX Doctor Who Preview:

1. Some advice: don’t go out in the sun and tape this one to watch later. Stay in and watch it live.
2. It’s much, much better than the first part. Though that’s largely due to stunning developments in the arc plot, not the Silurian storyline.
3. You may suddenly find yourself half-expecting to see the Moxx of Balhoon trundling in through a doorway.
4. A reference to a vegetable will make long-term fans smile.
5. Something that last happened millions upon millions of years ago happens again. Though it’s not as memorable as last time.
6. A phrase popularised by Sir Alex Ferguson is used twice.
7. The Doctor finds a use for the sonic screwdriver that would have really come in handy about, ooh, a million times before.
8. A prophecy is fulfilled.
9. You might find yourself remembering a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias…
10. … And thinking, “Oh no, not again”.
11. At one point, the Doctor pulls out something that’ll make your jaw drop. It’s a sign of what is to come. Well, part of it…

5. Big bang?
7. Unlock a wooden door?


Oh no.

Prophecy fulfilled

Dalek Caan from way back in Journey's End

One will still die (companion)

My money is on

Rory






i thought that was donna?? because her memory was erased

[Black_Apalachi]

If they are the original Silurians they look far better than the new ones! Kind of reminds me of the Pokémon 'Magmar' instead of a blatant human with some stupid suit on.


5. Big bang?
7. Unlock a wooden door?

I was thinking that about #7 as well Josh. :P

It will have to be something completely different though - I mean other than just pressing the button as he always does to unlock doors. Some other mechanism that springs out of it. My mate has like a replica sonic screwdriver which has these bits that pop out but I don't recall seeing what they're for on the show.

[kk.]

If they are the original Silurians they look far better than the new ones! Kind of reminds me of the Pokémon 'Magmar' instead of a blatant human with some stupid suit on.



I was thinking that about #7 as well Josh. :P

It will have to be something completely different though - I mean other than just pressing the button as he always does to unlock doors. Some other mechanism that springs out of it. My mate has like a replica sonic screwdriver which has these bits that pop out but I don't recall seeing what they're for on the show.

aha, well he mentioned it in the first part of this episode because he couldnt get the boy inside, and hes said it numerous times before :P but yeh, ithe screwdriver shouldnt be able to manipulate the wood or metal lock without something else happening first

[Black_Apalachi]

I'd laugh if he found out that it can literally undo screws!!! Thinking about it, if the sonic waves can move a lock, surely they can undo screws and therefore on wooden doors he could just take the hinges off?!

[kk.]

I'd laugh if he found out that it can literally undo screws!!! Thinking about it, if the sonic waves can move a lock, surely they can undo screws and therefore on wooden doors he could just take the hinges off?!

True, or the fact that it is actually a screwdriver? :P thing is, it said that he couldve used hundreds of times, but it could just be a new feature as it regenerated with the TARDIS didn't it??

[Black_Apalachi]

True, or the fact that it is actually a screwdriver? :P thing is, it said that he couldve used hundreds of times, but it could just be a new feature as it regenerated with the TARDIS didn't it??

That's what I was getting at (bold). I dunno but when we see it I bet we'll just laugh :P

[Stitch]

Four clips in 1 video here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDIB1wXpbHQ

[Chris]

Ooer clips look awesome. :D

[marriott0.01]

Epic episode can't believe the ending, and Rory :'(

[kk.]

What did the doctors sonic do that he didn't know it could do? :( the police box can't explode!! :( maybe that's the end of time?

[Chris]

Omg

Cant believe rory died. I wonder what will happen to the tardis!

[Accipiter]

just cause the doors blown off doesn't mean the tardis is blown to smithereens.

Rory must be quite a big part of this series though, they won't kill a good actor who had "good morals" in a program watched by young kids LOL won't set good standards.

[Nuct]

What did the doctors sonic do that he didn't know it could do?

I think it was making the Silurian's guns unusable.

I also have a feeling that it was the Master's TARDIS, have to wait and see I guess.

[Inseriousity.]

Much better than last week :D
I've not really been into amy's acting atm but that scene when rory dies was very sad. :(

[Fez]

Now THAT is how you do an episode of Doctor Who.

[kk.]

Can I just also mention

rory is included on the cast of the 'big bang' episode so it does mean he is alive... Maybe... Lol

[Accipiter]

it won't be the masters tardis, the tardis (before its chameleon arc broke) took form to shape anything were it lands, aka if it landed in greece it'd become a small greek building or something, or just a column etc.

And i don't know the masters tardis at all, but im guessing they won't use that same lie in both tardis's.

[Nuct]

The Master's TARDIS was lost at the end of the universe, and that's where the crack originates from.

[LoveToStack]

I felt no emotion for Rory's death. He was a bad actor and he should feel bad.
Episode was average up untill the end, plot was a bit predictable. Anyway you know he's coming back because it's Doctor Who.

[Accipiter]

whats this about prisoner 0 though? the masters dead & he isn't exactly evil now? he's on the doctors side so why would he blow up the tardis :S

above is judging that the masters tardis isn't in the doctors tardis form.

[dbgtz]

Theres always been points where the master and the doctor got along (look at the confidential for the end of time and rtd said "he didnt want too many times when they got alone") and you never see the master die.

I don't get it though, if rory was wiped from time then episodes which had rory in shouldnt have happened. I guess that gets explained in the finale.

Someone please explain:
4. A reference to a vegetable will make long-term fans smile.
5. Something that last happened millions upon millions of years ago happens again. Though it’s not as memorable as last time.
6. A phrase popularised by Sir Alex Ferguson is used twice.
7. The Doctor finds a use for the sonic screwdriver that would have really come in handy about, ooh, a million times before.
8. A prophecy is fulfilled.
9. You might find yourself remembering a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias…
10. … And thinking, “Oh no, not again”.