Doctor Who - Series 5.

[samsaBEAR]

I felt no emotion for Rory's death. He was a bad actor and he should feel bad.
Episode was average up untill the end, plot was a bit predictable. Anyway you know he's coming back because it's Doctor Who.
This, although I'm happy we won't see him for a few episodes, having said that, I still felt sad when Amy was trying to remember him and she just forgot. I hope they pick this story back up in a later series, I really love the idea of Elliot (the child?) bridging the gap between the humans and the Silurans like the Doctor alludes too.
I really liked this episode, yes it was a bit predictable and stuff, but it was still really enjoyable. The cliffhanger is brilliant and I'm really looking forward to Van Gogh next week.
Edit:


I don't get it though, if rory was wiped from time then episodes which had rory in shouldnt have happened. I guess that gets explained in the finale.
Timey wimey stuff will solve that paradox I'm sure :p

[Accipiter]

yeah if you play with time you've gotta fix it in that case.

but technically they could have just shown that "opposite time line" and theres another crossroad were the other one = he didn't exist then the 1 he does exist but they both hit that spot. confusing imo

But in the masters case, he was fighting for the timelords then, no matter what, now he understands what they want doing and it isn't going to happen, and if they just grab a previously existing version from him that'd just kill the plot in my eyes.

[Black_Apalachi]

OMG when he pulled the piece of Tardis door out of his pocket my jaw dropped and I was just like 'ehhhhhhhhhhhh.....' :P


... Someone please explain:
4. A reference to a vegetable will make long-term fans smile.
5. Something that last happened millions upon millions of years ago happens again. Though it’s not as memorable as last time.
6. A phrase popularised by Sir Alex Ferguson is used twice.
7. The Doctor finds a use for the sonic screwdriver that would have really come in handy about, ooh, a million times before.
8. A prophecy is fulfilled.
9. You might find yourself remembering a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias…
10. … And thinking, “Oh no, not again”.

4. Celery.
5. I think that was the moon lining up with the Earth? That's all I got anyway.
6. SQUEAKY BUM TIME!
7. Must be the way it disarmed the guns although it didn't seem like much of a surprise to him.
8. 'One of you will kill me.'
9. ... not sure about this one lol.
10. The crack and/or the Tardis fragment?


I got the impression while Amy etc forgot the memory of Rory, the Doctor seemed like he could still remember him... just from the way he looked at Amy and stuff. Surely EVERYONE should forget him, Timelord or not.

[Accipiter]

at 5.

that was just idiotic, the moon lined up with the planet before the mantle had even solidified into a walkable earth, bacteria wasn't even existant for another good 2 million or so years LOL. i'd say the moon came into alignment around half a million years after the earth formed into a planetary like object.

[Black_Apalachi]

at 5.

that was just idiotic, the moon lined up with the planet before the mantle had even solidified into a walkable earth, bacteria wasn't even existant for another good 2 million or so years LOL. i'd say the moon came into alignment around half a million years after the earth formed into a planetary like object.

In that case it fits the bill then, lol

[Accipiter]

how could that fit the bill, if the moon was already in existance by the time any life evolved what so ever?

The planet, literally, had no life cycle before a moon, and the case will be the same afterward, if we didn't have a moon our water would be poisonous and emit poisonous gasses. h30 or something.

They said the lizard people were scared under earth because of the moon coming into alignment, when truthfully it was already in alignment. I don't even think it "came" into alignment it was built from a meteor belt we had, we had a ring or something and that ring collided together to make a moon, i might be wrong but i think thats how the moon was created o_o

[kk.]

at 5.

that was just idiotic, the moon lined up with the planet before the mantle had even solidified into a walkable earth, bacteria wasn't even existant for another good 2 million or so years LOL. i'd say the moon came into alignment around half a million years after the earth formed into a planetary like object.
Its funny, I was taught the moon was made up of the Earth when a massive asteroid collided with the earth, so it was already pretty much aligned lol

[Accipiter]

yeah i think it was when 2 planets collided or something and the left over **** became the moon.

[kk.]

yeah i think it was when 2 planets collided or something and the left over **** became the moon.

It was definitely made up from part of the earth, I definitely remember that. I think it was an asteroid though.

[Accipiter]

i thought we collided with another planet though o_o

dunno how its possible like seeing as they wouldn't get big enough to do that really. -researches.

if it was an asteroid it would have to have been a pretty hefty huge one.

[kk.]

i thought we collided with another planet though o_o

dunno how its possible like seeing as they wouldn't get big enough to do that really. -researches.

if it was an asteroid it would have to have been a pretty hefty huge one.
Ah there are at least 3 theories: http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question38.html

We're both right :) lol. It is proposed it was a huge asteroid

[Accipiter]

-seizure from that page

the most probable does actually sound like it formed else were, the scientist who believe the fine tuning isn't probable, they do realise our life, was about the same probable percentage as that happening LOL

But the two planets colliding sound the best, as the other planet could have brought the materials found on the moon.

[kk.]

-seizure from that page

the most probable does actually sound like it formed else were, the scientist who believe the fine tuning isn't probable, they do realise our life, was about the same probable percentage as that happening LOL

But the two planets colliding sound the best, as the other planet could have brought the materials found on the moon.

There are in fact 4 theories on the page, withthem outlining the most probable being the giant impact theory where something the size of mars collided, which explains most things on the moon.

[Accipiter]

guess it could explain the whopping huge craters to, since there'd be pretty huge space debry left to collide into it after a collision like that.

[Black_Apalachi]

Anyway I'm glad Rory died.

[Lost_Addict]

OMG when he pulled the piece of Tardis door out of his pocket my jaw dropped and I was just like 'ehhhhhhhhhhhh.....' :P



4. Celery. Agreed
5. I think that was the moon lining up with the Earth? That's all I got anyway. I believe for this it was actually the Fish People going back into hibernation for 1000 years or somthing
6. SQUEAKY BUM TIME! Agreed hehe
7. Must be the way it disarmed the guns although it didn't seem like much of a surprise to him. Agreed but i was expecting it to be him actually unscrewing somthign haha
8. 'One of you will kill me.' I believe it was actually Darlek Ka'an telling the Dr. that "one of them will still die" but thats jsut what i got from the episode
9. ... not sure about this one lol. No idea aswell
10. The crack and/or the Tardis fragment? The crack


I got the impression while Amy etc forgot the memory of Rory, the Doctor seemed like he could still remember him... just from the way he looked at Amy and stuff. Surely EVERYONE should forget him, Timelord or not.

Ya the episode started slow but about 1/2 way through it really kicked in, Rory dieing was a bit of a shock but i think it was heavily overshadowed by the fragment found by the Dr.

I would love this to be the series finale with the reptiles awakening and still no agreement so a war between the two somehow gets the TARDIS to blow up.

[kk.]

Ya the episode started slow but about 1/2 way through it really kicked in, Rory dieing was a bit of a shock but i think it was heavily overshadowed by the fragment found by the Dr.

I would love this to be the series finale with the reptiles awakening and still no agreement so a war between the two somehow gets the TARDIS to blow up.

Uhm, I still stick by that 'one of them will still die' was donnas memory being erased

[samsaBEAR]

Uhm, I still stick by that 'one of them will still die' was donnas memory being erased
I've always thought that as well

[Lost_Addict]

Ya but i never saw that as her dying. I would off thought that would be " and one of them will not remember" sating she dies is pretty lame when she doesn't.

[kk.]

Ya but i never saw that as her dying. I would off thought that would be " and one of them will not remember" sating she dies is pretty lame when she doesn't.

But in his eyes she did die because he can't really see her anymore. So it's like she did die.

[Monopoly]

Donna Noble didn't die, the DoctorDonna died. That was the idea, no?

[samsaBEAR]

Just thought, what was so special about seeing this episode live?

[kk.]

Just thought, what was so special about seeing this episode live?

I suppose it's because one of the cast dies, and would ruin it. That's all I could think of lol

[Accipiter]

the episode was live? :S

i thought the live performance was going to be a theatrical production were daleks were included?

[dbgtz]

no one of the things were "see the episode live" basically by live they mean first broadcast not repeated.

[Fez]

Episode ratings revised

Eleventh Hour - 8/10
Beast Below - 3/10
Victory of the Daleks - 2/10
Time of Angels - 9/10
Flesh and Stone - 9/10
Vampires of Venice - 7/10
Amy's Choice - 8/10
Hungry Earth - 7/10
Cold Blood - 7/10

SERIES ratings.

1. Series One - Doc 9/ Rose RTD
2. Series Four - Doc 10/ Donna RTD
3. Series Three - Doc 10/ Martha RTD
4. Series Five - Doc 11/ Amy MOFFAT
5. Series Two - Doc 10/ Rose RTD

[dbgtz]

Cold blood is a 9 by me
and i guess ill do some series ratings:
1 Series Four - Doc 10/ Donna RTD
2 Series Two - Doc 10/ Rose RTD
3 Series Five - Doc 11/ Amy MOFFAT
4 Series One - Doc 9/ Rose RTD
5 Series Three - Doc 10/ Martha RTD

[Fez]

Cold blood is a 9 by me
and i guess ill do some series ratings:
1 Series Four - Doc 10/ Donna RTD
2 Series Two - Doc 10/ Rose RTD
3 Series Five - Doc 11/ Amy MOFFAT
4 Series One - Doc 9/ Rose RTD
5 Series Three - Doc 10/ Martha RTD

Why Series Three at the bottom?

Human Nature/Blink/Utopia?

Series One near the bottom lolwut?

[dbgtz]

I didn't like eccleston and I wasn't amazed by human nature/utopia

why series 2 last?

[Fez]

I didn't like eccleston and I wasn't amazed by human nature/utopia

why series 2 last?

No real standouts other than Doomsday.

[Black_Apalachi]

No, it wasn't actually live.


Just thought, what was so special about seeing this episode live?

They were just bigging it up.


Ya the episode started slow but about 1/2 way through it really kicked in, Rory dieing was a bit of a shock but i think it was heavily overshadowed by the fragment found by the Dr.

I would love this to be the series finale with the reptiles awakening and still no agreement so a war between the two somehow gets the TARDIS to blow up.

What do you mean about #8? Also remind me what happened with Donna... (I'm **** at remembering past stuff lol). And about #5; why was it more memorable last time?

[Browney]

Number 9 and ten is a reference to Hitchhiker's guide to the gallery, but I don't know how that helps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02a2HSB58M&feature=related

[Stitch]

FINALE PICTURES!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/TAN42sdS9-I/AAAAAAAAKe8/nz4XneAd-DM/s1600/finale1.png
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll106/mutts76/thedoctorp.jpg?1275341193

[crazed]

Yes!!!!!!!111111111 I knew finale would be @ stone henge..

[Black_Apalachi]

Number 9 and ten is a reference to Hitchhiker's guide to the gallery, but I don't know how that helps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02a2HSB58M&feature=related

Ah, thanks. Haven't seen that film but if it's narrated by Stephen Fry and also has Bill Bailey in it, then I really should! :P

[Stitch]

New clip


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erif5aKvtYk

[Accipiter]

whats that hitch hikers guide to the gallery? is that from one of the books? cause i read one when the paintings ate people or some ****.

[LoveToStack]

FINALE PICTURES!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/TAN42sdS9-I/AAAAAAAAKe8/nz4XneAd-DM/s1600/finale1.png
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll106/mutts76/thedoctorp.jpg?1275341193

Guy in purple toga infront of the doctor but facing him looks like Rory from behind. Calling it now lol.

Curious as to what people's favourite episodes are since the DocWho revival as some people above debating Utopia. Aside from the obvious favourites, Blink, Silence in the Library etc, do you have any particular episodes which you really enjoyed and think don't get enough praise?

For me it's season 4's Midnight. I was totally scared watching that episode for the first time. The element of mystery, not knowing what the monster is, is a classic technique but it still works. Also to see the Doctor completely baffled and helpless was something different (not something you'd ever see with this new Doctor... :rolleyes:)

[Stitch]

Guy in purple toga infront of the doctor but facing him looks like Rory from behind. Calling it now lol.

Curious as to what people's favourite episodes are since the DocWho revival as some people above debating Utopia. Aside from the obvious favourites, Blink, Silence in the Library etc, do you have any particular episodes which you really enjoyed and think don't get enough praise?

For me it's season 4's Midnight. I was totally scared watching that episode for the first time. The element of mystery, not knowing what the monster is, is a classic technique but it still works. Also to see the Doctor completely baffled and helpless was something different (not something you'd ever see with this new Doctor... :rolleyes:)

I think it is Rory.

Some of my favourites: Human Nature/The Family of Blood from series 3 and Dalek from series 1.

New clip (different one):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFgmAAdWjA

[Inseriousity.]

Season 4's Fire of Pompeii
it made me sad, laugh, everything basically.

[Stitch]

Didn't realise there were more clips. Usually I start checking the BBC website on Wednesdays and I just saw the other 2 in my YouTube subscriptions box. Here's all four clips in 1 video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RsrDV38jh8

[Fez]

Fav eps of revival:

Dalek
Father's Day
Bad Wolf/ Parting of the Ways
Impossible Planet/ Satan Pit
Army of Ghosts/ Doomsday
Smith and Jones
Human Nature/ Family of Blood
Blink (BEST)
Utopia
Silence in the Library/ Forest of the Dead
Turn Left
The Next Doctor
Waters of Mars
Eleventh Hour
Time of Angels/ Flesh and Stone
Amy's Choice

[Lost_Addict]

Dalek - Yes
Father's Day - Yes
Bad Wolf/ Parting of the Ways - Very Yes ( i make perfect gramaticl sence lol)
Impossible Planet/ Satan Pit - Scrared me witless rofl
Army of Ghosts/ Doomsday - Yes
Smith and Jones - Yes
Human Nature/ Family of Blood - Kind off yes
Blink (BEST) - yes yet probs not best for me
Utopia - yup
Silence in the Library/ Forest of the Dead - Yup
Turn Left - Meh
The Next Doctor - ***? that was appauling
Waters of Mars - very yes one of my favorite episodes
Eleventh Hour- Yes
Time of Angels/ Flesh and Stone - Yes
Amy's Choice - Yes

Only ones i would add, would be the gas mask children and the 3 part season finale when the master originally returns ( How could miss either off these they were pure genius)

[Fez]

Only ones i would add, would be the gas mask children and the 3 part season finale when the master originally returns ( How could miss either off these they were pure genius)

Hot damn I forgot The Empty Child.

I didn't like LAST OF THE TIME LORDS because the Doctor turned from an Old man and I felt shortchanged by the RESET BUTTON.

[Lost_Addict]

Hot damn I forgot The Empty Child.

I didn't like LAST OF THE TIME LORDS because the Doctor turned from an Old man and I felt shortchanged by the RESET BUTTON.

Fair enough, I just loved John Simms acting in it, he was pure genius

[Fez]

Fair enough, I just loved John Simms acting in it, he was pure genius

Simm was great.

[Lost_Addict]

I might be sneaky and add End of Time purley for the very ending as i found it genius for the uncle to be the one that kills the dr not a huge fancy explosion or what not
And featuring all the assistants right at the end was a nice touch. But the storyline was very Meh.

[Black_Apalachi]

HOLD THE PHONE. I wouldn't have known it was on 20 minutes earlier this week if it wasn't for that Peter Andre video!

[Chris]

WARNING, HUGE FINALE SPOILER

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xbEkkUyXTtc/TAOSPYiuKoI/AAAAAAAAAQI/3hYnfEn8q5Q/s1600/Untitled-1.png

Well sorta. Thoughts?

[Black_Apalachi]

... Thoughts?

I hate Daleks even more than The Doctor does.

[Stitch]

WARNING, HUGE FINALE SPOILER

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xbEkkUyXTtc/TAOSPYiuKoI/AAAAAAAAAQI/3hYnfEn8q5Q/s1600/Untitled-1.png

Well sorta. Thoughts?

I see:
Dalek
Hoix
Pilot Fish
Sontaran? (Below the Dalek eye stalk)
Judoon
Roman Soldiers

Some teasers below!

1. “Arcadia, The Trojan Gardens, now this?”
2. “He’s drunk, he’s mad and he never pays his bills.” Vincent is a popular chap.
3. The Doctor doesn’t know three things and one of them is about Miss Pond.
4. Speaking of Miss Pond, she’s from Holland you know.
5. It’s not very good news when a murder occurs.
6. “What is it with you and the ****c*?”
7. That useless, embarrassing present from a godmother with two heads and bad breath is actually quite useful.
8. It’s a parrot. No wait, it’s a polar bear. Is it?
9. Vincent can hear the song of Amy’s sadness.
10. “If there is one thing I can’t stand it’s an unpunctual ****n *t****.”
11. Sssh. You need to whisper in the confessions box.
12. That song may just make you shed a tear or two.
13. Just who or what could be The Ultimate Ging.

http://www.teentoday.co.uk/article/dr-who-can-you-decipher-our-teasers-000/

Also the first episode of the Doctor Who Adventure Games is on the website to download early! http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/theadventuregames/download/cityofthedaleks

[Fez]

Upon revising each episode, there really is something missing.

I think it's Amy generally being boring and not bringing out the best in the Doctor. All the good EPs this series have all been central around the Doctor or the actual plot bringing out the best in him

[dbgtz]

Tbh if amy wasn't sexed up I'd be bored of her epicly.

Also that pic looks EPIC
what episode number is it this saturday?

[Stitch]

Tbh if amy wasn't sexed up I'd be bored of her epicly.

Also that pic looks EPIC
what episode number is it this saturday?

Episode 10

[dbgtz]

So 1 more then finale?

[Inseriousity.]

ep 13 is the finale, so a couple more to go, as if it's nearly over already!

I watched a QI episode where they said the real pronunication of van gogh, I wonder if there's a little joke about it somewhere :p

[Lost_Addict]

ep 13 is the finale, so a couple more to go, as if it's nearly over already!

I watched a QI episode where they said the real pronunication of van gogh, I wonder if there's a little joke about it somewhere :p

I'm hoping it's a 2/3 parter. any Finale that isn't would just feel rushed :P. Thats why i loved the 3 part finale with the master.

[Banana Pancakes]

I hate parters, just give me a single episode.

[Inseriousity.]

I think it's a two parter, not sure. :D
I've been really disappointed so far but they normally save the best til last so looking forward to the next couple of weeks!

[crazed]

I hate parters, just give me a single episode.

This, unless it's the finale then I don't mind it so bad :)

[Fez]

The finale features a Van Gogh painting so...

[Stitch]

I hate parters, just give me a single episode.

You would have hated most of the classic series then because stories were split into parts (Some stories had only four parts and one of them went up to ten parts) :P

[Lost_Addict]

I think you need more than one part to make a decent story. single parters are normally HUGE let downers with the exception of a few (Blink, Amy's choice, waters of mars) A true story needs 3 parts. Part 1 the build up (endign with revelation they are in danger) Part 2 is where they think theyve solved the problem but the enemy stops them (Ending in climatic turning point (Doom basically) and Part 3 is the conclusion.

Thats how storys work and thats how i like Dr. who SINGLE EPISODES USUALLY FEEL RUSHED! XD :D my rant haha

[Chris]

I only like 2 parters for the end episodes, other wise i hate them!

[Black_Apalachi]

ep 13 is the finale, so a couple more to go, as if it's nearly over already!

I watched a QI episode where they said the real pronunication of van gogh, I wonder if there's a little joke about it somewhere :p

On the end of episode teaser last week the Doctor pronounced it wrong (the common way; Van Goff) and I also thought of QI. Although thinking about it he might have just been exaggerating it, possibly to mock the way we all say it wrong. :P

[dirrty]

jamessss cordennnnnnn. can't wait until next weeks episode.

[Accipiter]

that episode even nearly made me cry LOL

it was beautiful O-O one of my faves

[samsaBEAR]

I liked this episode quite a bit, I thought the bit at the end with Amy crying was just stupid, I don't get why she was so upset that there wasn't any new paintings. Plus the monster looked stupid

[joshuar]

Was a really good episode, one of this series' finest.


I liked this episode quite a bit, I thought the bit at the end with Amy crying was just stupid, I don't get why she was so upset that there wasn't any new paintings. Plus the monster looked stupid

I think she was upset because she thought they had changed his life so that he wouldn't kill himself, therefore live longer, therefore paint more paintings, but there was no new paintings because he still commited suicide and that's what upset her.

[Fez]

I cried at the end. Damnit.

Amy was interesting, Doctor was being Doctory and they actually used a historical character and made him into an actual interesting character instead of a plot device.

Incredible. One of the New Who finest, and without a doubt Series 5 best episode yet.

[dbgtz]

Quality episode, I think the fact you couldn't really see the monster at points made it so much better then some lame cgi which it did have when you saw it. I like how to some extent it wasn't all "stop the monster, save the good guys", I can't really explain what I mean but it doesn't follow that normal formula. I'm looking forward to next week with Corden.

Also I think there might be more to Van Gogh as he saw Amys loss (Rory).

[Black_Apalachi]

Have to say I liked that ep quite a bit. Not a fan of random monster being on Earth as usual, and still not sure why he was the only one who was able to see it, also very disappointed that the Doctor never thought of throwing paint or something over it as is done in every movie with an invisible enemy IS OBVIOUS! :P

But I did love the end and it did make sense that Van Gogh wasn't too taken aback by the Tardis and the future because of the sort of guy he was made out to be, which was good. Only thing that wasn't believable was that there was no painting of Amy. When she started walking towards that painting (which turned out to be the Sunflowers one), I was thinking it was a going to be a painting of herself. I mean, he was clearly obsessed with her and he didn't like sunflowers so it would have made a lot more sense.

Looking forward to Corden!

[Moh]

I liked the last episode. I was expecting a new painting of Amy tho :P

It's upsetting how we're up to 10/13 episodes.

Only 3 weeks left until TV will be pointless again!

[Black_Apalachi]

... Only 3 weeks left until TV will be pointless again!

I think I have an idea of what might fill the void like...

[Moh]

They left it open from another episode ;)

[Lost_Addict]

Very intresting episode.

Personally ithought it was not geatly written however i enjoyed it. It was a very much feel good episode, and i'm glad that a character from the past actually had meaning.
I enjoyed the Doctor mistakenly called Van gough Rory.

And to all those wondering why there was no painting or wondering why she was drawn to that painting it was because on the vase which held the sunflowers it said somthing like To My Darling Amy

[ecstasy]

enjoyed this episode. same as gomez, i liked how they werent just finding the monster to save the good guys, there was a original idea for it

CORDENCORDENCORDEN

[Black_Apalachi]

Very intresting episode.

Personally ithought it was not geatly written however i enjoyed it. It was a very much feel good episode, and i'm glad that a character from the past actually had meaning.
I enjoyed the Doctor mistakenly called Van gough Rory.

And to all those wondering why there was no painting or wondering why she was drawn to that painting it was because on the vase which held the sunflowers it said somthing like To My Darling Amy

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that. Also I know he left her a message but it would have been more believable if he actually painted a picture of her.

[kk.]

i didnt really like the episode too much tbh lol. not really anything interesting in it :P

[Moh]

They never told us why he could see the monster thing?

[dbgtz]

They never told us why he could see the monster thing?
if you listened, its because of the way he sees life hence why he's an amazing painter.

[Moh]

if you listened, its because of the way he sees life hence why he's an amazing painter.
I must have heard it then, that's what i was thinking.

[Black_Apalachi]

That's still not a good enough reason.

[Moh]

That's still not a good enough reason.
Now that I think about, yeah you're right!

Plus, if that's how things work then surly the doctor would be able to see? :P

[Black_Apalachi]

What Van Gogh basically had was synaesthesia. Wouldn't make you see invisible monsters though lol

[kk.]

What Van Gogh basically had was synaesthesia. Wouldn't make you see invisible monsters though lol

especially not real invisible monsters :P

[Inseriousity.]

synaesthesia + depression = invisible monsters becoming visible :p

[Fez]

I'd rather the reason be "He's a damn good artist." to be able to see the monster, than "OOOGLY WOOGLY PSYCHIC LINK."

I didn't like the CG monster that much.

[Black_Apalachi]

Kind of has to be questioned as well; why does The Doctor see a monster in a painting and is then compelled to go back in time to find and put everyone (or just Amy) in danger lol

[dbgtz]

Kind of has to be questioned as well; why does The Doctor see a monster in a painting and is then compelled to go back in time to find and put everyone (or just Amy) in danger lol

because it could cause problems in future.

[Fez]

because it could cause problems in future.

That and time can be rewritten, monster could kill Van Gogh.

[Lost_Addict]

That and time can be rewritten, monster could kill Van Gogh.

But technically, if ti was already in the painting, it means time has already been written at that everything has kept the same.

If the monster had caused any problems then the painting would seece to be anyway.

[Inseriousity.]

Kind of has to be questioned as well; why does The Doctor see a monster in a painting and is then compelled to go back in time to find and put everyone (or just Amy) in danger lol

because he's The Doctor and he bloody well can. I think its his adventurer curiousity. :D He just has to know even if he doesn't need to know.

[dbgtz]

But technically, if ti was already in the painting, it means time has already been written at that everything has kept the same.

If the monster had caused any problems then the painting would seece to be anyway.
not really, it could have killed him when van gogh finished all of his paintings, you have to remember that in the end it was actually scared.

[Lost_Addict]

not really, it could have killed him when van gogh finished all of his paintings, you have to remember that in the end it was actually scared.

But it didn't because when they were in the art gallery. the guy who shows people around sais he commited suicide, so TBH it's either the creature basically wouldn't of done anything or a minor screw up from the scripting :P

My guess the latter

[Fez]

But it didn't because when they were in the art gallery. the guy who shows people around sais he commited suicide, so TBH it's either the creature basically wouldn't of done anything or a minor screw up from the scripting :P

My guess the latter

Time is in flux, I would guess if the Doctor came back a few days later or maybe just instantly; half the Van Gogh paintings would have disappeared.

That and, well, I think the Doctor would do it anyway. There's a monster in the painting, an actual monster, that could've killed people; maybe he felt compelled to help it. E

[Stitch]

New clips from The Lodger!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BmDFKWMEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEJ6H9T8euA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imbw8ZxtGL0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgsDGydi2bA

This episode looks really good.

[Fez]

I like the look of this.

[Lost_Addict]

Lmao looks ood, and no amy... :P

[dbgtz]

aha the doctor owning at football, did corden help write it by any chance?
anyway it looks good.

[crazed]

What's in his ear?

[Fez]

aha the doctor owning at football, did corden help write it by any chance?
anyway it looks good.

Smith was going to be a footballer until he broke his back and his acting flower blossomed.

[Chris]

Looks really good! Wheres Amy though? :S

[Fez]

Ah. No spoilers, just brief concept.

The Doctor is stupid and didn't put the brakes on the TARDIS or something, so now the TARDIS has gone forward a week (along with Amy) so he has to lodge with some guy and pass off as a normal bloke.

From 'The Lodger' comic strip.

[Black_Apalachi]

because it could cause problems in future.

But they were already in the future (Van Gogh's future, our present day) and everything was peachy. Also I don't understand where the line is drawn between what he is allowed to alter and what he must leave alone - everything they did when they went back there (as with pretty much every episode) is affecting the future in one way or another.

[Niall!]

That looks hilarious. Can't wait till Saturday.

[Chris]

Shame most of the episodes have all been set on Earth. I would of really liked a different planet for a change. :[

[Stitch]

SFX Teasers!




The first line is very funny
A guest character from last week’s episode shows up a few times
There’s the first gay allusion this series (sort of)
The Doctor has more interesting adventures with food and drink
Matt Smith fans will be freeze-framing one particular revealing moment
A can of beer is opened at an important moment
The Doctor commits an act of physical violence, sort of…
A certain face shows up for the fourth time this series; another for a third; and others for a second time
There’s lots of witty dialogue
A regal couple put in an appearance
Amy discovers something
One of the most uttered phrases of series five comes up again
It’s the most unusual ever episode of Doctor Who Confidential!
It’s back
Someone says the G-word
There’s a monster’s hand in a drawer
The psychic paper serves several purposes
It’s rather a sweet love story and James Corden is actually quite likeable
Someone says, “I love you”
The Doctor is helped by some feline intuition

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/06/09/the-lodger-preview/

[Niall!]

It's back is obviously the crack.

Amy finds out about Rory, possibly?

Face.. what?

[Black_Apalachi]

Argh major clash with the footy here

[Stitch]

It's back is obviously the crack.

Amy finds out about Rory, possibly?

Face.. what?

1st Doctor (for the fourth time - The Eleventh Hour, The Vampires of Venice, Vincent and the Doctor, The Lodger), 2nd Doctor (For the third time - The Eleventh Hour, Vincent and the Doctor, The Lodger) and all the others (for the second time - The Eleventh Hour, The Lodger) I think.

[dbgtz]

A guest character from last week’s episode shows up a few times - just some sort of random extra?
There’s the first gay allusion this series (sort of) - thing in the trailer when corden goes "give us a shout if you have anyone around" and the doctor says about if you like girls or guys or something like that
Matt Smith fans will be freeze-framing one particular revealing moment - something with next week I guess LOL
A can of beer is opened at an important moment - beer sprays at the villain or something?
A certain face shows up for the fourth time this series; another for a third; and others for a second time - above probs
A regal couple put in an appearance - Horne and Corden?
Amy discovers something - shes a lesbian (lol jk rory most likely)
One of the most uttered phrases of series five comes up again - geranimo
It’s back - crack
Someone says the G-word - goal?
Someone says, “I love you” - probs corden

[Fez]

]A guest character from last week’s episode shows up a few times - Van Gogh
There's the first gay allusion this series (sort of) - Seen in trailer
Matt Smith fans will be freeze-framing one particular revealing moment - He does almost get naked
A can of beer is opened at an important moment - When 'Amy's Day' happens?
A certain face shows up for the fourth time this series; another for a third; and others for a second time - The Doctors
A regal couple put in an appearance - No idea.
Amy discovers something - Gotta be Rory
One of the most uttered phrases of series five comes up again - Bow-ties are cool
It's back - Crack
Someone says the G-word - Goaaaaal
Someone says,"I love you"; There's a love story.

[Accipiter]

That's still not a good enough reason.

few pages behind ere

But it is a good enough reason when he doesn't only see light he sees sound and life & death etc

[dbgtz]

I LOLED AT : "YES! It's perfect. What a beauty."

[samsaBEAR]

I liked this episode a lot, but I didn't get why the Doctor was so stupid to humans's ways. If he's been around humans for like 900 years, you'd think he'd know whats what

[Chris]

Weird episode. Next week looks absolutly amazing. I heard dalek, cyberman, sontoran and slythene. There where more but i forgot them. Lmao.

[Moh]

I liked this episode a lot, but I didn't get why the Doctor was so stupid to humans's ways. If he's been around humans for like 900 years, you'd think he'd know whats what
Because he's been to so many different places and different times so he doesn't know which way to act I'm guessing :P



Weird episode. Next week looks absolutly amazing. I heard dalek, cyberman, sontoran and slythene. There where more but i forgot them. Lmao.
I hope it doesn't spoil it, putting them all in.

[dbgtz]

Question: How the hell did he get £3000?

anyway i hate how they listed all of the villains in the next ep, id prefer they left it a surprise to someone who doesn't even know that any villain is returning, let alone a herd of them.

also the end sucked in this one with the "kiss and live" thing

[samsaBEAR]

Question: How the hell did he get £3000?

anyway i hate how they listed all of the villains in the next ep, id prefer they left it a surprise to someone who doesn't even know that any villain is returning, let alone a herd of them.

also the end sucked in this one with the "kiss and live" thing
Well he's showed in previous series that he sonic screwdriver's an ATM and gets whatever amount he wants, so that's how I suppose. But it wouldn't surprise me if the TARDIS had like an unlimited supply or could make money or whatever.

I'm excited to see what the ultimate bad guy thing is gonna be that comes out of the Pandorica

[Chris]

Yeah, i mean whats more ultimate than the daleks? And yay for river. :D

[dbgtz]

The doctor is?
Anyway I either thinks it's davros and hes allied with people and this caused fixed points in time to stop happen (like maybe the thing from series 4 hence why amy cant remember it) and thats why cracks appear
or the master and thats how he didnt recognise him because he regenerated.

[Chris]

If its the master that would just completely ruin it for me. Tennants finale was the master and he's only just gone. Davros on the other hand wouldn't be so bad because we don't actually know what happened to him/it after the end of series 4.

[Accipiter]

it won't be the master

i think it'll be a totally new guy

cause if you noticed, the cyberman has his head ripped off, not much of an ally if i tell you the truth. Sounds like something more powerful than both the daleks & the cybermen :O

and it showed you the jail in the crack

i saw the sontarans, maybe its the timewar in a pandora o_o

Sontarans haven't even been mentioned in any previous series though? :S but they were in the annuals

[dbgtz]

sontarens were in series 4 and a story in the SJA

[Accipiter]

**** im talking about the wrong thing ermmmmmmm

-finds name

but i definately saw what im thinking of

[Niall!]

YESSSSSSSSSSSS

IT LOOKS SO AWESOMEEE

[Accipiter]

SCREAMMM i can't find were i saw the thing!

But apparently they were "round shaped enemies" that attacked with flame throwers or something :S

can anyone find a list of people who thought in original time war???

[Fez]

I really liked this episode. At the end, when Amy opens the ring and the crack opens at the same time, I think that's how the TARDIS explodes. Rory coming backz.

Anyway.

I know who's in the Pandorica.

[Accipiter]

Maybes if the tardis is sacraficed (never existed) than the crack never exists, The tardis could create the crack or something, just a guess.

[Niall!]

I really liked this episode. At the end, when Amy opens the ring and the crack opens at the same time, I think that's how the TARDIS explodes. Rory coming backz.

Anyway.

I know who's in the Pandorica.

Go on then. Do tell.

[Accipiter]

i must be going mental srs

i can't find that page with the time war scene :'(

[Fez]

Maybes if the tardis is sacraficed (never existed) than the crack never exists, The tardis could create the crack or something, just a guess.

TARDIS explosion = the cracks. Sacrificing the TARDIS = making the cracks.

Only way to stop it is to stop the explosion from happening.

[Accipiter]

is that a guess or true o_o

[Fez]

Go on then. Do tell.

MASSIVE SPOILER.

Are you sure?

You know what the spoiler is about....

Well...

Here.

We.

Go.

pedobear

loljk

it's

The Doctor



is that a guess or true o_o

Guess, but probably true. I'm guessing we'll see the TARDIS explode and the Doctor having to do timey-wibbly-wimey to sort it all out.

[Niall!]

MASSIVE SPOILER.

Are you sure?

You know what the spoiler is about....

Well...

Here.

We.

Go.

pedobear

loljk

it's

The Doctor

Where's your source on this information, or is it pure speculation? I've already thought about the Doctor, it fits but I don't think Moffat would do it.

[Accipiter]

Having the doctor in it would be major **** ups, it'd be played by matt smith and that'd just mind **** the regeneration technique?

[Fez]

Where's your source on this information, or is it pure speculation? I've already thought about the Doctor, it fits but I don't think Moffat would do it.

As seen in many of the leaked promo pictures, all the beasties that have been mentioned, put the Doctor in the pandorica. As you've seen in the promo for next week, there a roman soldiers. The Doctor visits the pandorica in the future, where it opens, and (my guess) there's a skeleton or a screwdriver just left on the chair. He then goes back to where the pandorica started (roman times) and that's when all the beasties come back to imprison him.

Then Amy does some weird freaky shizzle.

[Niall!]

As seen in many of the leaked promo pictures, all the beasties that have been mentioned, put the Doctor in the pandorica. As you've seen in the promo for next week, there a roman soldiers. The Doctor visits the pandorica in the future, where it opens, and (my guess) there's a skeleton or a screwdriver just left on the chair. He then goes back to where the pandorica started (roman times) and that's when all the beasties come back to imprison him.

Then Amy does some weird freaky shizzle.

Hmm, it could work.

[Lost_Addict]

Hmm, it could work.

Good episode in total, Funny and creepy :D.

Things about next ep:

Looks amazing
Moons bk = Yay
dr being in the pandorica would make sence because last time with moon she sais she kills the greatest man she ever new = could lead on
However i would majorly be dissapointed due to the big enemies becoming boring and unscary (Darleks, Sontarens, Cyberman) Etc Etc and i really hope for a new big bady who could occur in diffrent episodes to breif new life into dr who.

But their just my thoughts XD

[Fez]

Good episode in total, Funny and creepy :D.

Things about next ep:

Looks amazing
Moons bk = Yay
dr being in the pandorica would make sence because last time with moon she sais she kills the greatest man she ever new = could lead on
However i would majorly be dissapointed due to the big enemies becoming boring and unscary (Darleks, Sontarens, Cyberman) Etc Etc and i really hope for a new big bady who could occur in diffrent episodes to breif new life into dr who.

But their just my thoughts XD

Moon?

Also, if you guys want the image I used as source:

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac301/lbotez/Pandorica%20Opens/finale1.png

It's not going to be your average finale.

[kk.]

Good episode in total, Funny and creepy :D.

Things about next ep:

Looks amazing
Moons bk = Yay
dr being in the pandorica would make sence because last time with moon she sais she kills the greatest man she ever new = could lead on
However i would majorly be dissapointed due to the big enemies becoming boring and unscary (Darleks, Sontarens, Cyberman) Etc Etc and i really hope for a new big bady who could occur in diffrent episodes to breif new life into dr who.

But their just my thoughts XD

Who's moon? You mean river song right?

[Fez]

Oooooh, already a new trailer..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi9CBxPj_-U

[dbgtz]

thats the "next time" thing isnt it?

[Fez]

thats the "next time" thing isnt it?

Mostly, with different music and a little bit at the end.

[Lost_Addict]

sorry i did mean river song.. silly me lol

[Sulai]

Good episode last night... I cant wait for the 2 part finale!

Possible see the return of OMEGA or THE OTHER?!?!?

[Chris]

How weird does the old sonic look now? I'm so used to the green one. Lmao

I think this is gonna be one massive finale. Will be different.

[Black_Apalachi]

Fgs I haven't managed to watch this entirely yet even though I've watched the first half twice - don't ask lol :P

Looks like one of the weirdest episodes I've ever seen though. Mainly because of how strange the Doctor is acting and how much is unexplained - i.e. he fell out of the Tardis, then randomly ended up at the house, then when he's speaking to Amy she somehow knows he's in a house with something weird upstairs :S

[kk.]

Fgs I haven't managed to watch this entirely yet even though I've watched the first half twice - don't ask lol :P

Looks like one of the weirdest episodes I've ever seen though. Mainly because of how strange the Doctor is acting and how much is unexplained - i.e. he fell out of the Tardis, then randomly ended up at the house, then when he's speaking to Amy she somehow knows he's in a house with something weird upstairs :S

He stepped out the tardis and fell didn't he? The ending up at the house is explained. When he's speaking to amy, you join halfway through it so I assume he's already told her

[samsaBEAR]

As seen in many of the leaked promo pictures, all the beasties that have been mentioned, put the Doctor in the pandorica. As you've seen in the promo for next week, there a roman soldiers. The Doctor visits the pandorica in the future, where it opens, and (my guess) there's a skeleton or a screwdriver just left on the chair. He then goes back to where the pandorica started (roman times) and that's when all the beasties come back to imprison him.

Then Amy does some weird freaky shizzle.
This is probably one of the soundest fan theories I've ever read for something haha. I'm thinking this finale is going to be one of the best yet, I'm really loving Matt's Doctor, I hope he stays beyond the next series

[Stitch]

Clip from The Pandorica Opens!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsW0Uvi9dhc

Looks like it's just one this week.

[crazed]

Good episode in total, Funny and creepy :D.

Things about next ep:

Looks amazing
Moons bk = Yay
dr being in the pandorica would make sence because last time with moon she sais she kills the greatest man she ever new = could lead on
However i would majorly be dissapointed due to the big enemies becoming boring and unscary (Darleks, Sontarens, Cyberman) Etc Etc and i really hope for a new big bady who could occur in diffrent episodes to breif new life into dr who.

But their just my thoughts XD

Thanks for the spoiler tags.. -.-

I hate Riversong. I find her boring and her acting wooden.

[Lost_Addict]

Thanks for the spoiler tags.. -.-

I hate Riversong. I find her boring and her acting wooden.

There are 0 spoilers Only whats from the next time which is after dr who and a fan theory. 0 spolers TY

[Chris]

Ooo that trailer looks gooooood! This eppisode is gonna be a big one!

[Verrou]

Why wasn't the doctor at all curious as to who was trying to create a TARDIS in the last episode...

[Accipiter]

Because no one could fly it.

can you give direct link to that trailer

[Verrou]

But I thought the Doctor had the last one...

[Accipiter]

Last one made by the time lords.

Anyone can try to make one, (timelords would have tryed, succeeded) but he needed a pilot, and the only person who could fly it was the doctor. And he did kinda blow it up.

[Verrou]

Hmmm well I would have at least expected him to wonder who was trying to make one.

[Accipiter]

you have a point, but theres other stuff he should have done to.

Like finding the blown up tardis piece in my eyes, would have drove him mad enough to find out about the crack there and then.

[Stitch]

Teasers!

1. Hello sweetie writ large. Literally.

2. "This is royal collection and I'm the ****** *****!

3. Cleopatra's comin' atcha!

4. Drahvins, Zygons, Draconians, oh my!

5. A nifty new Cyber-feature is revealed.

6. An unlikely alliance is formed.

7. The Pandorica opens. And closes.

8. We finally find out where those pesky cracks are coming from.

9. Death. A whole lot more death than you probably anticipated.

10. But don't despair, the last word of the episode is "love".

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctor-who/tubetalk/a228805/ten-teasers-about-the-pandorica-opens.html






Steven Moffat’s on top form with a brilliantly crafted episode – the perfect start to a two-parter.
The Doctor and Amy visit the oldest planet in the universe, where the first words in history have a familiar ring to them.
The stakes are every bit as high as in an RTD season finale.
Characters from earlier in the series make surprise appearances before the opening titles – and we’re not just talking about the series recap.
There’s something funny going on at Stonehenge.
If you thought “The Lodger” looked like a money-saving episode, you soon realise where all that spare cash went.
There’s a scene in a bar rather reminiscent of the Star Wars cantina.
There’s an armada of alien spacecraft.
The Doctor gets to deliver one of his “Get out of here!” speeches.
There’s a brilliant scare involving a human skull.
You could market an entire range of action figures on the back of this episode alone.
Amy’s engagement ring is crucial.
It’ll make you want to go back and watch the whole series again.
Someone other than the Doctor pilots the TARDIS.
The Doctor and Amy face a foe reminiscent of fembots.
There’s a fantastic nod to The Thing.
The Pandorica does indeed open.
It also closes.
The episode ends in a cliffhanger so devilish that it seems utterly inescapable. It’s going to be a very, very long week.
26 June 2010 is a very important date indeed – and not just because it’s the day of the series finale.


http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/06/17/doctor-who-preview-2/

[dbgtz]

1. Hello sweetie writ large. Literally. - some contact between river and the doctor like in the episode she was in before (cept bigger obv)

2. "This is royal collection and I'm the ****** *****! - with romans i guess

3. Cleopatra's comin' atcha! - cleopatra...

4. Drahvins, Zygons, Draconians, oh my! - some of the villains coming?

5. A nifty new Cyber-feature is revealed. - probs that head thing in the trailer with moving wires.

6. An unlikely alliance is formed. - all the villains

7. The Pandorica opens. And closes. - doctor goes in? Or different times.

8. We finally find out where those pesky cracks are coming from. - the pandorica? :S

9. Death. A whole lot more death than you probably anticipated. - probs just some bulk villains

10. But don't despair, the last word of the episode is "love". - I reckon someone going "don't worry, love".

[Lost_Addict]

Just relised why the ring is so important... If Rory was erased from history then how does the rign still exist...

[Fez]

"You'll want to watch all the series again!"

The infamous 'Jacket Doc in forest' by any chance?

http://i41.tinypic.com/16c5s9v.jpg

[Inseriousity.]

"This is royal collection and I'm the ****** *****" - Liz Ten... something queen. What did she say in ep 2 lol, cant remember

[Accipiter]

Just relised why the ring is so important... If Rory was erased from history then how does the rign still exist...

it was stored in the tardis on that thingy magigy, inside the tardis time doesn't exist in a line or w.e so whats taking in can still be in existance if its how it got there isn't.

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey im guessing.

[kk.]

26 June 2010 is a very important date indeed – and not just because it’s the day of the series finale.

this is the date that was on the clock in one of the episodes. cant remember what it was for exactly.

actually, i do.

It was amys wedding day..

[Fez]

Cannot wait.

[dbgtz]

I dont understand why judoons are there, they're space police and wasn't really an enemy.

[Fez]

I dont understand why judoons are there, they're space police and wasn't really an enemy.

I'd add a spoiler tag if I wuz you.

Every alien species is there to make sure the Doctor goes into the Pandorica, I think.

[dbgtz]

if it's in the teaser or widely advertised (like tv guides front covers) then I don't think it needs a spoiler.

But then why do they want the doctor in the Pandorica? What is the Pandorica? I thought it was like all the evuls getting revenge.

[Pigperson]

OMG, THIS 1ST PART OF THE FINALE IS AMAZING. I love how they are relating the story to each episode. It is just amazing!

Will

[dirrty]

OMG, THIS 1ST PART OF THE FINALE IS AMAZING. I love how they are relating the story to each episode. It is just amazing!

Will
yeah, it's pretty good so far. i have a feeling it's gonna be an excellent episode.

it's obviously gonna be him inside it.

[dbgtz]

"never ignore a coincidence"
amy = the wizard who tricks the evil thing

"LOOK AT ME, IM A TARGET"

since when was a cyberman a rotting corpse?

[Pigperson]

K, fact, this episode was actually one of the best. I actually can't wait till the next episode. It's a bit confusing at times but just amazing!

Will

[paramoreriot]

skreeeams doctor omg omg omg omg no no no no omg omg omg and amy omg no

[Chris]

Amazing eppisode. I'm still getting my head around it all. Can not wait for next week!

[ecstasy]

that was ****ing awesome

[dirrty]

was hoping they'd show a preview of next weeks episode :P

[Accipiter]

what i don't get is

How does the tardis exploding, destroy universes?

my only logical view is that it also goes into the crack & never existed so everything the daleks & enemies ever tried to do happened so the "silence" does come etc

Even the time lords will now be on earth will they not, actually wait, they can't nothing exists :S -mind****

[dbgtz]

Me thinks the fact amy dies reverses it for some reason
good episode, i didnt like how the baddies turned good (to some sense).

[paramoreriot]

Im mega confused getting my mind around this

[samsaBEAR]

skreeeams doctor omg omg omg omg no no no no omg omg omg and amy omg no

get out now. I really enjoyed this episode, apeel called it on the doctor in the pandorica thing haha

[ecstasy]

whats so confusing about it?

[Inseriousity.]

omg! omg! OMG!

that sums my opinion up. :D

[paramoreriot]

Lol trying to tell someone where to go. I can't believe it is it him who blows up or what i dno i think amy has something sitll to do with the bigger pioctuyre

[Accipiter]

Im thinking

that the pandorica is actually a trick to the enemies but the pandorica is actually a safe house, the work of it etc protects whats inside.

So what happens, can be reversed.

I was thinking the way there was a seat and huge technology it could even be a spaceship :S (or a tardis, the only episode not related to it?)

[Chris]

Dalek commander said only the doctor can pilot the tardis but thats not true, river can too!

[ecstasy]

Dalek commander said only the doctor can pilot the tardis but thats not true, river can too!
thats not a spoiler :P

Im thinking

that the pandorica is actually a trick to the enemies but the pandorica is actually a safe house, the work of it etc protects whats inside.

So what happens, can be reversed.

I was thinking the way there was a seat and huge technology it could even be a spaceship :S (or a tardis, the only episode not related to it?)
if the universe is destroyed, what happens to the pandorica then? does it just float in nothingness? and how would you reverse the destruction of the universe?

[Accipiter]

Anyone can

Amy can

Jack can

all of his alive companions can seeing as one of the finales they all flew it :P

as long as they're trained i think.

[Dan2nd]

I always thought the Daleks wanted to remain supreme and there was no negotiating with them?

Maybe they would have agreed to an alliance to secure their survival but as soon as the Doctor was sealed in the real Daleks would have turned on the other aliens and killed them...

[Chris]

Yeah but it got ya excited didnt it? Hehheh.

So Rory isnt really Rory? If he's a robot thing?

[Dan2nd]

Yeah but it got ya excited didnt it? Hehheh.

So Rory isnt really Rory? If he's a robot thing?

Rory and all of the romans were autons (living plastic)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auton

[ecstasy]

Yeah but it got ya excited didnt it? Hehheh.

So Rory isnt really Rory? If he's a robot thing?
I was about to put that all the romans are from Amy's memory, but idk how that can be said about Rory because she didnt remember him until the end

[Dan2nd]

I was about to put that all the romans are from Amy's memory, but idk how that can be said about Rory because she didnt remember him until the end

When River song opened up the story book on romans a photograph of Rory dressed as a roman fell out.

They probably had been working on the plan before Rory died.

[Fez]

How does...

What?

This is the biggest finale ever, not just the whole of reality at risk but EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING at risk. How on Earth? What?

HOW WILL HE GET OUT OF THE PANDORICA? IS RIVER SONG DEAD? AMY IS DEAD WAT?

[ecstasy]

When River song opened up the story book on romans a photograph of Rory dressed as a roman fell out.

They probably had been working on the plan before Rory died.
but rory was meant to be erased from time, how could that picture have been there :S

[Fez]

but rory was meant to be erased from time, how could that picture have been there :S

Since the scenario was created from Amy's mind, I probably guess he was accidentally thrown into the mix.

Maybe he's going to save the day?

[ecstasy]

Since the scenario was created from Amy's mind, I probably guess he was accidentally thrown into the mix.

Maybe he's going to save the day?
but rory wasnt in amys mind so yeah, the scenario must have been set up before he died

[Dan2nd]

but rory was meant to be erased from time, how could that picture have been there :S

I may be wrong but it could have been because she started to remember everything when he started to talk to her.

The Doctor did say something to her like 'You only have to remember things for them to exist' when she asked him about the ring

[ecstasy]

that would work too

[Fez]

but rory wasnt in amys mind so yeah, the scenario must have been set up before he died

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey. Amy was still crying when he fell through the crack.

[samsaBEAR]

I also had a problem with the Alliance as someone else said, I understand why they are doing it, but the Daleks have always seen everything else as inferior, as have the Cybermen, so the idea of them rallying together seems weird.
Also to the person that said about the Judoon, I thought the exact same thing, but then when the Dalek was talking about how they all wanted to protect the universe, it made sense that the Judoon would want to be a part of that, considering they're space police.
Sorry for the lack of quotes, cba haha

[kk.]

He said that the house was strange, and she landed on 26/06/2010. I have a feeling it was something to do with that crack being there, and with the date

[Lost_Addict]

Totally Awsome.

But am i the only one wonderign who was aying and silence will fall?

WHO IS THE BIG BADDIE!

[Chris]

Ahh yes Autons, strange i said ooooooh autons in the eppisode. Lmao

But next week we have.

Amelia back into it. I wonder what could happen.

Oh and to above i was wondering about that. At first i thought it was the dream lord but that is the the doctor so. :s

[Dan2nd]

Well there are rumours going around that perhaps a past or future incarnation of the Doctor will save the day.

[paramoreriot]

Next week is Amys mum and aunt are in it ?
Erm some people are saying the original big baddy is coming back ;o

[Fez]

Ooooh.
Ahhh..
Ooooh.

I just realised when he took the vortex manipulator off of River Song, it was still on his wrist when he went into the Pandorica.

WIBBLY WOBBLY TIMEY WIMEY.

[dbgtz]

I thought davros was saying the silence is falling.

also by saying "only the doctor can pilot the tardis" does that mean the masters dead for realz?

[Chris]

Ooooh.
Ahhh..
Ooooh.

I just realised when he took the vortex manipulator off of River Song, it was still on his wrist when he went into the Pandorica.

WIBBLY WOBBLY TIMEY WIMEY.

Huh? What vortex manipulator?!

[Fez]

I thought davros was saying the silence is falling.

also by saying "only the doctor can pilot the tardis" does that mean the masters dead for realz?

Master is trapped in timelock with Gallifrey.



Huh? What vortex manipulator?!

Time travel device thingamajig, River got one and the Doc took it off her. Captain Jack uses one.

[Dan2nd]

Personally I think if it was anyone obvious like The Master, Davros, Cyber Leader etc it will be a big let down because characters like that have been so over used by Russell T Davies hopefully Moff does something different for a change.

[Chris]

Time travel device thingamajig, River got one and the Doc took it off her. Captain Jack uses one.

Ohh, didnt notice that at all.

[samsaBEAR]

Personally I think if it was anyone obvious like The Master, Davros, Cyber Leader etc it will be a big let down because characters like that have been so over used by Russell T Davies hopefully Moff does something different for a change.
This, I'm all for Moffat bringing in new big baddies, but at the same time I hope they're not cheesy and WANT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD LOLZ and are really generic.
I also thought it sounded like Davros saying the silence is falling

[Fez]

Okay, next week, here's my theory:

The universe is collapsing around Earth, maybe some hints to that with little bits of Scientists running around all yattering on about it. So, the beginning of the Eleventh Hour happens (2000 years after Pandorica was sealed), and young Amy still waits out in the cold. The Doctor doesn't show up, as it was, but she then spends all that time wondering about the stars. Let's just hypothesise that the Pandorica was created by the aliens, from Amy's imagination, but didn't exist before the date that all of time is destroyed (Amy's time). So, now, since it has happened. They've dug up Stonehenge and found the Pandorica, so yadda yadda yadda she goes to the museum where it's held or something and touches the Pandorica. It starts to move, because (wibbly wobbly) Amy is a time traveller. The old Doctor comes out, but timelocked so he hasn't aged, and with a vortex manipulator her goes to troll all of the past episodes and convince Amy to do something different.

He then appears right after the beasties trap him, and convinces them about River Song. He saves the TARDIS, pulls some trickery and then makes love to Rory.

[ecstasy]

why would the destruction of the universe mean that we go back to the beginning of the Eleventh Hour?

[crazed]

sick Sick SIck SICk SICK EPISODE.

Urgh it was so good. Rory shooting Amy, River getting trapped in the Tardis. Utter brilliance. I don't even need to see next weeks, that was amazing. Best episode of the season.

[Fez]

why would the destruction of the universe mean that we go back to the beginning of the Eleventh Hour?

We don't? We go to the point after it with Young Amy.

[ecstasy]

We don't? We go to the point after it with Young Amy.



So, the beginning of the Eleventh Hour happens

...

i meant the bit with young amy anyway. why would we go back there?

[Lost_Addict]

We don't? We go to the point after it with Young Amy.

It wouldnt happen because it's already happend in amy's timeline. the Dr hasn't been erased from history just improsend, so everything up to this episode has already happend and wont be changed. And secondly there IS abig badie so it will be to do with him / it.

Secondly Moffat really came into his own this episode and has deffo earned himself some credability

[Dan2nd]

I was just browsing the internet to find other theories and have come across one I quite like.. The Doctor has been locked up by the rest of the universe he is seen to them as the most dangerous prisoner alive that would bring the destruction of everything. To them the most important thing is that he remains locked up so maybe we have now come full circle from the first episode of the series maybe the Doctor is Prisoner Zero?

[Fez]

...

i meant the bit with young amy anyway. why would we go back there?

Because, she's the only one who remembers the Doctor. Obviously he's not erased from time, but Rory is an auton and there is no one else I can imagine helping him.

A thought, a giant thought, since the Pandorica is the 'first prison' then maybe... the Doctor is 'Prisoner Zero'?

The slimey thing that the Atraxi captured just so happened to be disguised as the Doctor before it was taken away. Maybe the atraxi saw it as a clever con. Obviously, since they saw the real Doc Doc during the Eleventh Hour, they couldn't recapture him.

Mind-bending, here we go.

They couldn't re-capture the Eleventh Hour Doctor because he had to go into the future to be taken into the Pandorica and escape, as Prisoner Zero, so the Atraxi can try and find Prisoner Zero.

[ecstasy]

I like the idea of the doctor being Prisoner Zero but I still dont understand why we might end up going back to the Eleventh Hour. Theories complicate things :(

[Fez]

It appears my theory is correct:

MASSIVE SPOILERS:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b129/Jammiehooitt/7c18cbc619_ga.jpg?t=1276947113

[ecstasy]

WHY WOULD THAT HAPPEN EXPLAIN APEEL :'(

[Santorefish]

You guys are overlooking somthing

This IS Dr who and is written be Steven Moffat, there is going to be a twist surely....

[Lost_Addict]

Ya it seems your theory is right because i scoured the dr who website and found the webpage for the final pisode. Doesn't say much except it's called The Big Bang and has minimal details apart a little bit about amy :P

Heres link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00sxfc7

[Fez]

WHY WOULD THAT HAPPEN EXPLAIN APEEL :'(

THEORY.

Doctor locked away in Pandorica, beasties fail to realise it's below STONEHENGE, it's unearthed and carried to a Museum. Young Amy (after Eleventh Hour) goes there with her auntie out of curiosity...

CUE TIMEY WIMEY, MASSIVE MIND BENDING

She frees the Doctor from the Pandorica, because he tells her how by going back in time (just after he left her) and telling her how. In 'Flesh and Stone', there's a scene totally out of context where he tells Amy to "remember what I told you when you were seven."

So. She frees the Doctor, because she knows how to, he then goes back in time to tell her how to free him.

After that, he saves everything.

[Lost_Addict]

It seems Amy actually is dead though 'cause it's saying so in all the doccumentarys and on the website lol.

[Fez]

It seems Amy actually is dead though 'cause it's saying so in all the doccumentarys and on the website lol.

She's dead as Adult Amy, but her younger self is still herself otherwise Adult Amy wouldn't exist etc.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/episodes/b00sxfc7/galleries/wallpaper

BBC accidently put up wallpapers for 'The Big Bang', I've saved them all for when they inevitably realise their idiocy.

[Lost_Addict]

She's dead as Adult Amy, but her younger self is still herself otherwise Adult Amy wouldn't exist etc.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/episodes/b00sxfc7/galleries/wallpaper

BBC accidently put up wallpapers for 'The Big Bang', I've saved them all for when they inevitably realise their idiocy.

The darlek in the first pic seems ancient / destroyed....

[Moh]

Hum, this is before River was in prison for killing the greatest man she know (or something like that)

[Fez]

Hum, this is before River was in prison for killing the greatest man she know (or something like that)

But she was in the prison at the start of the episode. My guess is that she gets put into Prison again after this episode.

The whole 'killing the Doctor' is next series. Just a guess.

[ecstasy]

She frees the Doctor from the Pandorica, because he tells her how by going back in time (just after he left her) and telling her how. In 'Flesh and Stone', there's a scene totally out of context where he tells Amy to "remember what I told you when you were seven."

So. She frees the Doctor, because she knows how to, he then goes back in time to tell her how to free him.


I cant get my head round that, but kudos to you anyway cause you seem to know what you're on about

[Fez]

The darlek in the first pic seems ancient / destroyed....

A guard? Daleks can last forever.

[Lost_Addict]

Rofl i always read the website http://www.sylvestermccoy.com/newdoctorwho/ to see the episode guide of the new series and under the christmas special this is the blub:

2010 Christmas Special
213 251210 By Russell T Davies and Steven Moffat. The 11th Doctor catches a cold and turns into a girl!

[Chris]

Rofl i always read the website http://www.sylvestermccoy.com/newdoctorwho/ to see the episode guide of the new series and under the christmas special this is the blub:

2010 Christmas Special
213 251210 By Russell T Davies and Steven Moffat. The 11th Doctor catches a cold and turns into a girl!

Lol, as if. That would be funny!

[Pigperson]

If this has been posted already, forget this. But I think this is Amy's/Karen's first and last series. On the site, it says Goodbye Amy and Amy Pond's Greatest Moments. It may be a joke or a twist on the site but I'm not sure :S

Will

[Chris]

She's confirmed to be doing the xmas special and the next series.

[ecstasy]

I wasnt gonna ask more questions but what the heck



So. She frees the Doctor, because she knows how to, he then goes back in time to tell her how to free him.


why would the doctor go back in time to tell her how to free him? he's already free so what would be the point in that?

[Fez]

I wasnt gonna ask more questions but what the heck

why would the doctor go back in time to tell her how to free him? he's already free so what would be the point in that?

Because he would ask her how she freed him, then do timey wimey.

[Chris]

Apparently the big bang trailer was on bbc one at 9. Should be on youtube soonish.

And....


On Monday we'll be bringing you an introduction to The Big Bang from Matt Smith and on Tuesday we'll deliver an exclusive clip of this series' last episode. And on Tuesday afternoon we'll also be bringing you a live stream from Glasgow, Pacific Quay, where writer Phil Ford, the Voice of the Daleks, Nick Briggs and one of the Adventure Games' Executive Producers, Charles Cecil, will be taking part in a very special Q&A.
It doesn't end there as later in the week we'll have some more surprises...


Thats from the doctor who website. Clips are coming early this week it seems.

[ecstasy]

do timey wimey?
i never really understood wibbly wobbly timey wimey
god i feel like such a noob :l

[Stitch]

but rory was meant to be erased from time, how could that picture have been there :S

The Doctor said to Amy "People fall out of the world sometimes but they always leave traces. Little things we can't quite account for. Faces in photographs, luggage, half eaten meals... rings."

[Niall!]

http://www.thedailydust.co.uk/2010/06/15/nasa-discover-doctor-whos-crack-in-the-middle-of-the-milky-way/

WE'RE ALL ******

[Lost_Addict]

http://www.thedailydust.co.uk/2010/06/15/nasa-discover-doctor-whos-crack-in-the-middle-of-the-milky-way/

WE'RE ALL ******

Thats pretty insane + rep XD

[ecstasy]

http://www.thedailydust.co.uk/2010/06/15/nasa-discover-doctor-whos-crack-in-the-middle-of-the-milky-way/

WE'RE ALL ******
i gotta admit that is pretty damn weird

[Chris]

Creepy stuff eh. I'm still waiting for this trailer...