Riots in the UK

[Calvin]

Don't really know much about it but apparently they shot a father of four in Tottenham. Set several police cars, shops and a double decker bus on fire so far and a member of the BBC camera crew has been hurt.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14434318
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16045049

Live on BBC and Sky News right now.

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[Shar]

Police shot mark duggan - I think thats his name - on Thursday and apparently this is peoples reaction to it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No suprises here then considering the area - I sense the Police won't do a crackdown to not 'inflame tensions' whereas usually they would, and should. There's a strange belief it seems in Tottenham that the Police are racist towards black people, and therefore that justifies smashing up private property in the local area. Don't just take my word for it, here's a little history; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadwater_Farm_riot

We'll have to wait and see if its race related, but I very much suspect it is so - another symptom of when people think of 'us vs them' or 'my race'.

[[Jay]]

As far as I am aware this is nothing to do with race. Just because the person that was shot, was from a diffrent race its far beyond why the riots occured. The riots occured due to the fact that they think the shotting was unjust and not because they shot a person with a diffrent race.
As far as im concerned if this had happend in a "non cultural area" and a it wasent an ethnic person that was shot. It would have been the same situation. These are people standing up for justice and not for race.
I dont know what happend so I cant comment on if the riots are just or not, but I do know this has very little to do with race. So to save time on pointless arguments please post about the story and not about the race.

[Wig44.]

So because one person was shot by the police, they think it is 'fair' and 'justice!!' to attack and injure several innocent police officers? What kind of logic is that?

Bunch of ******* idiots.

[Lamz]

So because one person was shot by the police, they think it is 'fair' and 'justice!!' to attack and injure several innocent police officers? What kind of logic is that?

Bunch of ******* idiots.

so its fair to shoot an innocent man???

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North London is practically destroyed. Enfield, Holloway(where i live) Edmonton (Where my counsins live), Wood Green, Angel, Camden etc etc... It's disgusting. I don't see why they didn't just burn tottenham police station but now they are taking the piss... all they are doing is breaking into shops & stealing clothes/phones & Money. (I know because people i know went)

[FlyingJesus]

At what point did known gangsters who open fire on police become innocent men?

[Lamz]

At what point did known gangsters who open fire on police become innocent men?

did he do it though? NO. They know themselves that the bullet lodged in a officers radio was from another officers gun. It was even confirmed on sky news this afternoon.

[xxMATTGxx]

did he do it though? NO. They know themselves that the bullet lodged in a officers radio was from another officers gun. It was even confirmed on sky news this afternoon.

Doesn't mean they should start riots and cause damage to businesses, cars, homes and buses does it? NO. (I haven't read about the bullet being from another office instead but even so)

[Lamz]

Doesn't mean they should start riots and cause damage to businesses, cars, homes and buses does it? NO. (I haven't read about the bullet being from another office instead but even so)

don't remember saying it was...

[FlyingJesus]

Police issue bullet does not 100% mean that it was another officer - where do you think a lot of gang guns come from? And regardless of that, the shooting of one man who was about to be arrested anyway does not in any way allow for the damages caused, which have absolutely nothing to do with Mark Duggan and are merely opportunist attacks and lootings from bored poor people

[xxMATTGxx]

don't remember saying it was...

Maybe not but it just seemd you was going to hint towards that due to the whole "At what point did known gangsters who open fire on police become innocent men?"

But he isn't innocent though is he due to the illegal firearms as well.

[Lamz]

Maybe not but it just seemd you was going to hint towards that due to the whole "At what point did known gangsters who open fire on police become innocent men?"

But he isn't innocent though is he due to the illegal firearms as well.

so why didn't they arrest him the same way they have arrested 50+ people over the last two days?

[FlyingJesus]

Prob because he shot at them

[xxMATTGxx]

so why didn't they arrest him the same way they have arrested 50+ people over the last two days?

Last time I checked when someone has a gun and has most likely shot at the police, the police don't take a friendly approach back.

[Misawa]

A gangster is dead? Oh boo hoo.

[Lamz]

if he shot @ them 1st then yeah ok... but so far the news & investigators say he didn't.

How do they know one of the rioters aren't armed?

[beth]

A gangster is dead? Oh boo hoo.

though i disagree with taking any kind of pleasure in anybody's death, this "innocent man" was clearly not innocent. what kind of 'innocent' person has the trident operation squad sent to arrest them. you just don't. these riots have now turned into a freeforall for people who just wanna get free goods and cause a scene. it's a mess.

[Callum.]

london is burning

[-:Undertaker:-]

Enoch Powell's prophecy is being proved correct - it's spreading to Enfield and Brixton now.

This is the result from years of uncontrolled immigration coupled with policies which only make problems worse, the idea that black people and minorities in general belong solely in those groups. We've already had the local councillors and self-appointed 'Community Leaders' commenting on how the Police need to 'engage and support the local community' - why is this? nobody else appears to have this need of Police pandering to them, why is it that these self-appointed people, usually from ethnic areas, feel the need to have the Police pander? The Police are supposed to do a job, fight crime, without having to bow to political correctness and meet with self-appointed 'Community Leaders' everytime an issue of crime flares up in the area.

The fact is that multi-culturalism is a failure but don't confuse this with multi-racialism. Multi-culturalism is the idea that differing cultures can exist side by side despite the fact that each culture has a differing view to authority, a different legal system and so forth. In areas like Tottenham, Enfield, Brixton and across London we've allowed different cultures (which includes and grows black gun culture) to fester and not be eliminated by a pan-British culture and this only makes tensions worse.

On the poverty and jobs argument that I keep hearing, that these people are desperate poor people. Sorry, but we have a welfare system in this country which means you have no obligation to work should you not wish to and that you can live a fairly comfortable life on the teet of the state without having to lift a finger. Now I may disagree with this, but thats a fact and thus eliminates the excuses for the need to loot, burn and destroy. If you look at scenes from the shops being looted, these people clearly have no intention of having an education or wanting a job to better themselves - they are mindless thugs. I heard top clown, Labours' Mayoral marxoid candidate Ken Livingstone blaming the looting and so forth on the governments supposed scrapping of EMA, I don't even need to go into that lunacy.

The Police aren't exactly impressing me either, allowing buildings to burn and standing back while shops are looted in order to 'not inflame tensions' - sorry, but if the law is being broken then the Police should immediately go in, batons at the ready and grab those throwing things rather than standing behind shields. But this is another result of when you have a Police force run on political correctness.

[[Jay]]

^ While you make a semi-valid points its irrelivant? This situation has nothing to do with race as I said if it had happend anywhere else protests would of still occured. Far enough they have gotten completley out of hand and thats where your point is valid on multi-culturalism and the break down between police and the communitys. However thats not the point at hand here.

Again this was first ment to be people standing up to the fact that the shooting may have been unjust. Now I dont see why people are sayin he was not innocent, obviously he was not innocent he had a gun, but the point is there's a certain procedure that needs to be followed. If he did not shoot anyone then why was he shoot?. I can't judge the guy because I dont know him and him having a firearm does not give a good impression but if he did not shoot anyone then all of this would have been avoided by simply arresting him and charging him.

The riots have gotten out of control and what was ment to be a protest has now turned into a roit which is a shame because it only causes more problems for evryone. The clean up is going to cost alot of tax payers money. Its a shame though that today in society the only way to really get headline news is to infact do things like this. If it had been a peacfull roit sure it would of gotten in the news somewhere, but it would of not made front page news and thats the problem, thats the same thing that occured with the students protest. They did not focus on the thousand of students that turned up and had a peacfull protest but the focused on the minority who made it violent.

[-:Undertaker:-]

;7232440']^ While you make a semi-valid points its irrelivant? This situation has nothing to do with race as I said if it had happend anywhere else protests would of still occured. Far enough they have gotten completley out of hand and thats where your point is valid on multi-culturalism and the break down between police and the communitys. However thats not the point at hand here.

Again this was first ment to be people standing up to the fact that the shooting may have been unjust. Now I dont see why people are sayin he was not innocent, obviously he was not innocent he had a gun, but the point is there's a certain procedure that needs to be followed. If he did not shoot anyone then why was he shoot?. I can't judge the guy because I dont know him and him having a firearm does not give a good impression but if he did not shoot anyone then all of this would have been avoided by simply arresting him and charging him.

The riots have gotten out of control and what was ment to be a protest has now turned into a roit which is a shame because it only causes more problems for evryone. The clean up is going to cost alot of tax payers money. Its a shame though that today in society the only way to really get headline news is to infact do things like this. If it had been a peacfull roit sure it would of gotten in the news somewhere, but it would of not made front page news and thats the problem, thats the same thing that occured with the students protest. They did not focus on the thousand of students that turned up and had a peacfull protest but the focused on the minority who made it violent.

If it has nothing to do with culture (again, not race) then why are the areas in which trouble is breaking out in, black/ethnic areas which have managed to retain/grow a different culture as opposed to pan-Britishness? I have heard time and time again on the news that there are tensions between 'the community' and the Police - that there is 'nothing for the youths to do'. An effort is being made here to make out that the Police are racist and are picking on black people for no apparent reason, of course we know this to be rubbish but this can be seen especially with the BBC which wants to make us all believe that the people causing this damage are really just being overcome by a disease called 'crime' when we know such a disease does not exist.

As for your claim on the man who was shot, I very much doubt this would kick off in areas not similar to these - clearly the gangsters in the area, with their numerous contacts and friends are upset at the action made against the armed Mr. Duggan by the Police. Again, this is the reaction we get when we encourage people to see one another as 'black community' and so forth.

The ghettoisation of our towns and cities which turns people into seperate groups is a direct result of uncontrolled, mass immigration. The second part, the failure of integration, is a direct result of the scale of immigration to hit us along with political correctness which I touched on above. The product of this political correctness can be seen directly in coverage of the event slamming the Police for 'not supporting the community' - absolute tosh of course but thats the kind of rubbish you get when you allow political correctness to fester all around us.

[Inseriousity.]

I doubt the riots have anything to do with immigration/multiculturalism. It's to do with teenagers in a gang subculture who'd like to find any reason to cause a bit of mayhem and have some fun even if that means a lot of headache for other people. And this sort of attitude is in all gang subcultures, both black and white.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I doubt the riots have anything to do with immigration/multiculturalism. It's to do with teenagers in a gang subculture who'd like to find any reason to cause a bit of mayhem and have some fun even if that means a lot of headache for other people. And this sort of attitude is in all gang subcultures, both black and white.

Really? then why are self-appointed 'community leaders' having a go at the Police for not 'engaging with the community' (whatever that means)? why is it that only areas effected by mass immigration and ghettoisation (which includes whites also, again this is cultural) having violence flare up? I linked earlier to the same event that happened in Tottenham in the 1980s.. strange how it flares up in only these areas, Toxteth in Liverpool being another example with the Toxteth riots. We didn't have this reaction when Brazillian-born Jean Charles de Menezes was shot who lived in more or less the same area. A consquence of multi-culturalism *not multi-racialism*, we're reaping what our politicians have sown.

The idea of Police vs blacks or whatever it may be is ridiculous nonsense used to justify the actions they've taken, however it must be noted that the offical policy of government of promoting multi-culturalism coupled with uncontrolled immigration only serves to encourage this viewpoint.

[Inseriousity.]

Really? then why are self-appointed 'community leaders' having a go at the Police for not 'engaging with the community' (whatever that means)? why is it that only areas effected by mass immigration and ghettoisation (which includes whites also, again this is cultural) having violence flare up?

cause the areas effected by mass immigration are also the areas with the most poverty and therefore the most crime and therefore the police's target zones when looking for criminals, especially of the ASBO-teenage type but not just limited to such. At the end of the day, police are human too. If their 25 years of experience has taught them that a robbery could be linked to someone within a neighbourhood, of course that's going to be the first place they'll look. However, this just gives rise to the 'police vs blacks' as you put it. You seem to have a habit of saying that these reasons (especially if they're sociological, which I know you despise) justify their actions. It doesn't justify their actions at all. It's a (possible) explanation, not an excuse.

[-:Undertaker:-]

cause the areas effected by mass immigration are also the areas with the most poverty and therefore the most crime and therefore the police's target zones when looking for criminals, especially of the ASBO-teenage type but not just limited to such. At the end of the day, police are human too. If their 25 years of experience has taught them that a robbery could be linked to someone within a neighbourhood, of course that's going to be the first place they'll look. However, this just gives rise to the 'police vs blacks' as you put it. You seem to have a habit of saying that these reasons (especially if they're sociological, which I know you despise) justify their actions. It doesn't justify their actions at all. It's a (possible) explanation, not an excuse.

Quite the opposite, i've said crime isn't a disease - something sociology thinks is. The people involved in this should be punished severely [they won't though] as they are knowingly and purposely doing damage and harm.. however as you say, the multi-culturalism part is an explanation behind the mindsets.

[Sharon]

Half the rioters probs don't even know why they're doing it, just joining in for the "fun" setting fire/causing damage to INNOCENT (yeah that's innocent, not the person who got shot I don't get how the hell you can class him as the innocent one Lamar) peoples property.

[Wig44.]

cause the areas effected by mass immigration are also the areas with the most poverty and therefore the most crime and therefore the police's target zones when looking for criminals, especially of the ASBO-teenage type but not just limited to such. At the end of the day, police are human too. If their 25 years of experience has taught them that a robbery could be linked to someone within a neighbourhood, of course that's going to be the first place they'll look. However, this just gives rise to the 'police vs blacks' as you put it. You seem to have a habit of saying that these reasons (especially if they're sociological, which I know you despise) justify their actions. It doesn't justify their actions at all. It's a (possible) explanation, not an excuse.

Cause and effect in action.

I think it has become pretty obvious that multi-culturalism is a myth that will never truly exist. I disagree with undertaker, I do think one of the issues here is race, because in a lot of areas your race will define your culture (note: not all) and cultures don't mix, even though races do. The problem is the lack of integration into British culture (as has been stated) and there are people who believe that immigrants should not adopt our culture; as long as these people exist we will never have complete social integration of the races. The issue here is not people from different cultures learning about and cherishing their cultural heritage, it is the active eschewing of British culture, which leads to pockets of seperate cultures (and usually races) that cannot coincide. When you have this situation, which we do - there is no denying it - you are asking for riots and segregation by culture. If we aren't united by culture we are divided by it; this is human nature. We have mostly moved past division by race but I have a feeling this won't happen with culture.

As has been stated by undertaker, the root cause of this is the uncontrolled immigration which lead to poor integration.

[DPS]

Isnt just there now, its all over London theres been riots theres riots going on in Hackney atm, my phones me going off for ages asking me to go and join in, dont think so :)

But yeah the man got shot for a reason, carry a gun get shot its the only way, these riots have nothing to do with the man being shot.

[beth]

at first i was in full support of the police's action, now i think they need to step it up a bit. if the looting/rioting continues it will spread countrywide. many many people will go in for a freebie.

[DPS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P4ChI0Z74Q

Perfect for the moment ^^ but yeah Police need to step it up, theres like 150+ people at the bottom of a road near me atm, ready to riot in hackney LOL

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[Stephen]

if he shot @ them 1st then yeah ok... but so far the news & investigators say he didn't.

How do they know one of the rioters aren't armed?

if it was a white person you wouldn't be saying this

FACT

:dance:

[Slowpoke]

Police issue bullet does not 100% mean that it was another officer - where do you think a lot of gang guns come from? And regardless of that, the shooting of one man who was about to be arrested anyway does not in any way allow for the damages caused, which have absolutely nothing to do with Mark Duggan and are merely opportunist attacks and lootings from bored poor people

Exactly. I cannot believe that they have the nerve to stand there and tell us that they're doing all this because they hate policing and the UKs policing tactics. To anyone with any common sense at all - it's quite evident the majority of people being affected and therefore suffering from all this crap are the innocent members of the general public. As you said Tom, this is just a load of bored scallies using the mans tragic death as a reason to riot which is obviously their idea of fun. What a repulsive, disgusting minority they are.

My two cents

[myke]

to think the people taking part in these riots and stuff still have lives to grow into, wonder how many of them want to be policemen? if these are the people who are going to be running our country, the shops and everything inside it within the next few years then FML!

[DPS]

I just went out to the shop and there all locked up, and theres like untold people making phone calls to get people to come to hackney.

Also the army and been flying helicopters over to Hackney Marshs.

[Lamz]

if it was a white person you wouldn't be saying this

FACT

:dance:

no its not a fact, because I'm not a racist & I have white in my family so get to know me & facts before you say dumb **** like that.

[DPS]

This is nothing about the man who got shot, nothing about white or black people, there all joint together, pretty funny how this makes gangs stop fighting eachother and move the hate onto police.

[beth]

i've been following certain guardian journalists today and there's been really interesting updates about bbm and invitations to loot been sent through blackberry messenger. it's the medium being used to organise the trouble, which i find really interesting. there's now rumours of trouble in birmingham (my hometown, sobs.) tonight. again the bbm invitations are being sent round.

[FlyingJesus]

Those poor, disenfranchised victims of society with their Blackberry mobiles...

[Lamz]

i did say in earlier posts that they where taking the piss & pointlessly looting but apparently I have taken sides on a black person that i dnt even know irl & i swear he was mixed raced...

[Slowpoke]

Those poor, disenfranchised victims of society with their Blackberry mobiles...

Shutup Tom I have a Blackberry Bold. You're just jell hahahhaahh

On topic: Watching ITV news, looks like Tottenham are in for a third night of rioting. Sickening, truly

[DPS]

Shutup Tom I have a Blackberry Bold. You're just jell hahahhaahh

On topic: Watching ITV news, looks like Tottenham are in for a third night of rioting. Sickening, truly

Thats not Tottenham on ITV news, its Hackney, there pretty far apart.

[Smint]

I'm very confused with all this!

[AgnesIO]

so its fair to shoot an innocent man???

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North London is practically destroyed. Enfield, Holloway(where i live) Edmonton (Where my counsins live), Wood Green, Angel, Camden etc etc... It's disgusting. I don't see why they didn't just burn tottenham police station but now they are taking the piss... all they are doing is breaking into shops & stealing clothes/phones & Money. (I know because people i know went)

Innocent? Next joke.

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I don't know what is worse really. The fact some ****** up people (and I am not being racist or whatever, but every single picture of looters has been a black person) think someones death is an excuse to riot, loot and hurt others, or the fact that all the stealing, thieving thugs haven't had good old power hoses hitting their faces.

It makes me so angry, thieves are scum.

[Stephen]

Anyone seen the hilarious sickipedia jokes :L

[Smint]

Anyone seen the hilarious sickipedia jokes :L

O.o Show?

[beth]

this is disgusting, watching bbc news with adam and matt. the shop on fire, and the flats above. just mindless violence. this is nothing to do with being angry at anyone, this is people who are uneducated and want to be "big".

[DPS]

You should see the message going around, asking gangs from all over london to come and join in, "all gangs are invited no matter where you are from" LOL

[Slowpoke]

Thats not Tottenham on ITV news, its Hackney, there pretty far apart.

Oh, so the riots are spreading?

[RyRy]

Sounds like it's kicking off in Birmingham too now.

[beth]

Oh, so the riots are spreading?

they're all over london. there's rumours of riots happening in birmingham tonight.

[Stephen]

Sounds like it's kicking off in Birmingham too now.

and africa

sorry I'll slap myself for saying that

[RyRy]

and africa

sorry I'll slap myself for saying that

They're pretty much bordering eachother so it's okay.

In other news, Carol Vordermon wants all the kids to study maths until they're 18. The devil in its truest form.

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[DPS]

Oh, so the riots are spreading?

Yeah nothing is going on in Tottenham as far as i know, Its hackney / peckham / lewisham and others, this is nothing to do with Tottenham now, ive had a helicopter outside my house flyin for like 4/5 hrs

[RyRy]

Mate just posted this on Facebook

Apparently the riots have spread to Motherwell. It's chaos. Mobility scooters on their side. ***** booting the wee green electricity boxes. Young team on top of the dome down the town centre. A few less people in Asda than there normally would be around this time. Mad.

[beth]

my old work place (mcdonalds pallasades birmingham) has been attacked. shocked. can't even imagine what it would be like to be working there today.

links to images:

http://lockerz.com/s/127818415 - birmingham city centre, my mcdonalds is on that ramp.

http://lockerz.com/s/127814848 - footlocker next door to pallasades mcdonalds.

[RyRy]

Rumours of riots spreading to Norfolk contradicted by the Queen

"No, the rioting has not spread to Norfolk, the DoE is just having a rather large BBQ."

******* hell Beth I was only there last weekend, that's mental... Love how there's always a kid with a JD bag in a picture taken in Birmingham though.

[Firehorse]

My area is in the center of it all, luckily i'm not on a high road and am a good half mile from a bunch of council estates. Feel sorry for the people getting caught up in it, just saw a woman on the news fleeing her apartment that was catching fire only to have youths go in to rob it as soon as she left.

[beth]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215195_2305357599231_1407992702_2705039_1329738_n. jpg < jessops birmingham 20 grands worth of stock stolen. really shocked about my workplace. bit close to home.

[RyRy]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215195_2305357599231_1407992702_2705039_1329738_n. jpg < jessops birmingham 20 grands worth of stock stolen. really shocked about my workplace. bit close to home.

My mate posted that on Twitter LOL, Michaelw90? ;) bwaha. Lets hope the riots don't come to Bristol, else I'll nut someone.

BREAKING NEWS

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/6022172733_c9c09e2486.jpg

[DPS]

My area is in the center of it all, luckily i'm not on a high road and am a good half mile from a bunch of council estates. Feel sorry for the people getting caught up in it, just saw a woman on the news fleeing her apartment that was catching fire only to have youths go in to rob it as soon as she left.


What area u from? lol

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There bringing in dogs, and cutting alley ways and ****. but srs where its kicking off in Hackney.

Pembury, one of the worse estates in Hackney, so many places to run and hide and ****.

[RyRy]

Everyone on Twitter is calling for the army to step in. They're not far off that.

[beth]

i have friends and ex work colleagues currently like trapped inside their work because there police up and down the ramp outside.

[DPS]

Everyone on Twitter is calling for the army to step in. They're not far off that.

Army wont be called in... LOL trust me on that.

[Slowpoke]

Everyone on Twitter is calling for the army to step in. They're not far off that.

I think you're overexaggerating a bit now buddy :P We're not quite at that stage at the moment

[Stephen]

got no option if it carries on though do they? Can't just wait until they've looted every shop and burnt down every house etc

[cocaine]

allow these riots, they're to my south, east and north of where i am. luckily for me the nearest town they'd want to loot, if at all, would be watford. im like 2 miles away. feel well sorry for people caught up in all of this, sad that individuals feel the need to do this to the country they live in

[DPS]

I need a new gaming laptop, so got the urge to get one of my pals to get me one.

[Firehorse]

What area u from? lol

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There bringing in dogs, and cutting alley ways and ****. but srs where its kicking off in Hackney.

Pembury, one of the worse estates in Hackney, so many places to run and hide and ****.

Willesden/Kensal Rise. We got harlsden just next door, and if it gets much worse and spreads nearer, not too far off a high road.

[Slowpoke]

I hope none of you guys get caught up in this :(

[Stephen]

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[=Lizzy]

To think they wanted to cut the police force aswell. This is terrible and the police men are so brave for going out there. The rioters i think have taken it too far now and need to stop before even more damage is caused.

@RyRy
I think they will get called in soon

[Firehorse]

it's funny how we havent heard of any fried chicken shops being looted yet

High respect for those?

[cocaine]

High respect for those?

ahahahaa. they need to get their energy from somewhere!

[DPS]

All the females should go out and flash there ****, would make the yobs stop rioting tbh :)

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[RyRy]

I think you're overexaggerating a bit now buddy :P We're not quite at that stage at the moment

They're beating up police officers, but human rights says that Police can't really do anything to them. I think we're closer to it than you think.

[beth]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmhu6g5Lf1r1p3wro1_400.jpg

this is direct from birmingham city centre. this is ******* disgusting. i just feel sick.

[Slowpoke]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmhu6g5Lf1r1p3wro1_400.jpg

this is direct from birmingham city centre. this is ******* disgusting. i just feel sick.

That's actually horrific, can't believe this it's spreading! It's only a matter of time before the death toll begins to rise if it carries on like this!

[Jordan]

Oh my god, this is insane. I feel sorry for all those affected. I'm doubt anywhere near me will suffer though.

[GraySonic]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01355/fire-tottenham_1355962a.jpg

This disgusts me aswell. smh, :(

[Calvin]

2021: Interesting little tale from Upton Park just in. Hoodies there tried to attack a shop, and the shop owner and his staff came and beat them all up apparently.


Hahahaha.

[Slowpoke]

Where are you getting that from, linkiessss

[DPS]

Thats nothing lol in hackney today i saw 3 police officers get run over.

[Firehorse]

Although this rioting is the wrong way to solve the country's problems and is taking advantage of this extreme situation, I don't think anybody can deny the fact that this has been building up for a long time now. For example, a lot of those rioters have had benefits cut, and then been told a month later that the uk is giving £841million in aid to vaccinate people as a precautionary measure on another continent, that's about £15 per person in the entire country. If I was as heavily affected as some of these people i'd also be quite angry.

I think what is sad is the UK has voiced its opinion and the facts about what is happening is very clear, but it seems that the people running the country only take notice when it turns violent on a massive scale and innocent people end up having their lives ruined by such events, and some possibly even killed.

When the coalition government took office, it made promises of cuts to better the economy. But the truth is there weren't any real cuts, the money just got moved away from those who needed it most.

[beth]

www.birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com for images direct from the birmingham riots.

[Calvin]

Where are you getting that from, linkiesssshttp://thewestlondoner.wordpress.com/

[Slowpoke]

ty for links!

BBC News are now reporting (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-14452468) the riots in Birmingham!

[Stephen]

holy crap did anyone just see that guy get hit on the head with a missile on sky news?

he's on the floor :O

[Slowpoke]

Got sky news on now, this is unreal!!!

[Jordan]

2043: Paula Radcliffe tweets In less than 1 year we welcome the world to London, and right now the world doesn't want to come

I can't believe that it's spreading. Something needs to be done

[beth]

birmingham is being wrecked. primark has been burnt down (massive property), staff stuck in buildings. disgusting.

[Slowpoke]

I wonder which city is next?

I know I said previously that it would be a while before the army are called in but now I'm reckoning it's a possibility that it'll happen soon!

[Stephen]

I think that any people who are going to commit suicide in the uk this week should pick up a gun and take these ******s with em (Y)

also look at this

https://twitter.com/#!/CharlieCW/status/100654568286851072

http://i55.tinypic.com/21cxauf.jpg

[Slowpoke]

Is that an actual leaflet Steffy? wtf, no way

Sky News headlines about to role. Can't believe that officer was hit by a missile!

[Calvin]

"2103: PC World in Colliers Wood is being looted. Meanwhile Wembley is on the same footing as Harrow – heavy police presence but no presence of rioters or looters."


Jeeeez.

[Slowpoke]

A friend of mine in Manchester I'm texting is telling me of a heavy police presence in the city centre since the early evening (he's just telling me now though). No rioting as of yet, however

[Neversoft]

I don't get it... why are people rioting? I wish the police would just bash some sense into these fools.

[Stephen]

cant they just get the army to come in with peas in their guns and shoot them all as they run away

[Slowpoke]

Heavy police presence as violence erupts in Leeds, also unconfirmed reports of a shooting in Leeds too! :O

COBRA are meeting first thing in the morning, David Cameron is flying home from his holiday (earlier than planned) as we speak :P

[jackass]

I think it's about time the police got rough with these morons, maybe that'll show them how idiotic their actions are.

[buttons]

i have a friend who just moved to east london, don't remember where, she says
"Holy ****! There are riots going 2 minutes down the road. All the Bangla boys are angry cause they've attacked a mosque. Ahhh I wanna be in Aberdeen right now."
she posted literally 40 minutes saying her area was like a ghost town but now there are riots. spreading quick, someone else says it's in essex too:S

[Neversoft]

Damn youths.

[Slowpoke]

I think it's about time the police got rough with these morons, maybe that'll show them how idiotic their actions are.

They can't, that's why we the need the army to intervene. However, that can't happen until they are given the go ahead. I imagine it'll be discussed at COBRA in the morning (bit late).

What's baffling is all the major news channels are showing raging fires that aren't being tackled in any way whatsoever which probably means that the rioters aren't letting the fire engines get the various fires - many of which are in residential areas :(

[beth]

getting closer and closer to my suburb in birmingham. bit scared ha, i live in a rough area and it wouldn't take much to get these mugs up and going.

[Kasabian]

there's an edl march in telford on saturday, wouldnt surprise me to see scenes like these here.

Kicking off in coventry now too,


yeah, bp garage near me has been set alight, a shopping centre has been attacked, someones apparently been stabbed, i dont feel safe :/

[Mr-Trainor]

My neighbours went in to our nearby shopping centre a few hours ago but it was all closed off. Seems to be almost everywhere at the moment :(.

[Jordan:A]

All been going on in Birmingham, Primarks been burnt, they've gotted to Cybercandy (noooo :( ) McDonalds, Nandos, Footlocker.

Least they've blocked off New Street Station, the Childrens Hospital and Pigeon Park - they must be pretty low to riot in the hospitals and pigeon park

Lmfao at this -
"XXXXX asked: Recieved information from friends in the city that the Bull's head is being sawn off.

Sounds like sensationalism, I don’t know whether to believe that one, but anything is possible I guess."

They're going to be there for a while then...

[beth]

i'm having to tweet my friends around birmingham to make sure they're okay ;/ this is madness. this isn't to do with anyone. this is just stupid ***** being *****.

they're sawing the head off the bull (hes a big iron bull statue) in the bullring. WHY.

[Chris]

i'm having to tweet my friends around birmingham to make sure they're okay ;/ this is madness. this isn't to do with anyone. this is just stupid ***** being *****.

they're sawing the head off the bull (hes a big iron bull statue) in the bullring. WHY.

Really? Isn't the bullring closed off too?

[beth]

Really? Isn't the bullring closed off too?

yeah the bullring is police guarded. video of birmingham sainsburys being looted.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mliYQIk2WeM

[Slowpoke]

This just proves that the vast majority of these rioters don't give two hoots about any of the reasons behind the original protests, that they are just evil people who don't deserve to walk among us. The amount of innocent people being affected by this is horrific. This could be a countrywide event before the night is over and I pray this is all sorted tomorrow following the COBRA meeting. I hate to think what an additional night of rioting would lead to (maybe even more nights) and how many more towns and cities may be affected?!

[Kasabian]

http://lockerz.com/s/127844562

Scum.

[DPS]

wow... low life.

[Stephen]

http://lockerz.com/s/127844562

Scum.

*REMOVED*

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[beth]

*REMOVED*

oh my god stephen hahahahahhaahahahahah.

[Slowpoke]

10 o clock news about to start, summary of tonights events thus far will be good.

[Jordan:A]

The thing is, people are like :oooooo about some of the shops, the Primark in Birmingham is horrible anyway, all ways a mess in their and some right *** heads, and its not like the shops aren't going to re-build and get more stock?

Lol at this group on FB - "HMV's been looted but Swagger Jagger CD's r still on the shelves"

[Stephen]

How the **** was that racist?

[Slowpoke]

Has Obama made any comments about the riots yet?

[Andys]

This is disgusting. Birmingham looks a lot worse than London imo too.
Thousands or shops have been looted all around the country. Apparently it is spreading to Walsall and Bloxwich now. Won't be long till they get the hoses in, or even the army.

[Stephen]

Has Obama made any comments about the riots yet?

no he's too busy looting pc world

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[beth]

The thing is, people are like :oooooo about some of the shops, the Primark in Birmingham is horrible anyway, all ways a mess in their and some right *** heads, and its not like the shops aren't going to re-build and get more stock?

Lol at this group on FB - "HMV's been looted but Swagger Jagger CD's r still on the shelves"

that isn't the point. just cause something is **** you don't have the right to go and ******* loot it. i have friends who work there, i can't imagine how scared they must be.

apparently the bullrings defence has gone to **** cause the looters are in.

[Kasabian]

Wolverhampton's got ALOT of trouble in the city center.

EDL march in Telford on Saturday, but wouldn't surprise me if we saw similar scenes in the next few days considering the amount of ***** here.

8/8/2011 the day grand theft auto became real.

[Neversoft]

This thread is going to need to be renamed 'Riots in the UK' soon.

[FlyingJesus]

Real riots are supposed to have a cause, this is just scum looking to cause destruction and get some free stuff

[Kasabian]

Let's grab everyone, go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over.

[DPS]

The thread should be re-named mod sort it out!

[=Lizzy]

Let's grab everyone, go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over.

no pints here sorry :(

its been going on for ages now sigh. buildings and cars its not funny or fair

[Slowpoke]

The thread should be re-named mod sort it out!

I don't mod this section but I agree!

[xxMATTGxx]

The thread should be re-named mod sort it out!

Thread has been renamed! They really need to get some sort of plan going here, this is getting out of hand. God knows how many other cities are going to get these stupid people looting, causing damage and setting fires etc.

[beth]

would definitely agree with the water cannons being brought out now. i'm all for a bit of tear gas if i'm honest.

EDIT: confirmed that people have been smashing up birmingham children's hospital in the city centre. vile.

[Calvin]

Contains swearing:
http://www.twitvid.com/4JTZH

This woman is amazing haha.

[Slowpoke]

Off to bed now, I pray that it's calmed down at least a bit when I get up in the morning - though I imagine the situation will have worsened!

[DPS]

Thread has been renamed! They really need to get some sort of plan going here, this is getting out of hand. God knows how many other cities are going to get these stupid people looting, causing damage and setting fires etc.

I cant sleep knowing how close i am to it all in hackney, these helicopters are drivin me crazy

[Marbian]

English Defence Legue are coming to Telford where I live this weekend to march about some asian sex ring or something. It's over there website and stuff.. Nothing to do with this in London, but omg lol! I live by where there coming too and EDL are known to course ****.


But anyway, I think it's getting out of hands. There's people there that don't even know what there rioting about... And are just joining in so they can loot.

[Kasabian]

arsesoftumblr asked: 99% sure on the children's hospital being smashed up. About 5 people who are in the city have said the same to me.

Birmingham.

[beth]

Birmingham.

just no words to say.

[Neversoft]

Let's grab everyone, go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over.

More like "Let's grab everyone, go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint and wait for it to burn down."

[chantellehugs]

I'm sickened that anyone would even THINK about smashing up a children's hospital. These evil, evil people are complete and utter lowlifes, it's disgusting.

[Accipiter]

Times like this I wish we could just shoot these *****s instead of having to fund their arrests.

Sick of this country taking the soft approach to criminals.

[Slowpoke]

THE CHILDRENS HOSPITAL, SERIOUSLY?

[Kasabian]

THE CHILDRENS HOSPITAL, SERIOUSLY?



Sorry I pressed the submit button. I dont know what to do on this.
The Childrens hospital has been hit. Rioters were smashing windows and attempted to bomb steelhouse lane police station. My friends mum was there and was escorted out of the hospital by police. I assume other people were too!! :/


Birmingham Childrens Hospital.

[Firehorse]

Would anyone agree with me if I said that the EU has played a large part in this getting out of hand? Their human rights act mean the police can't use reasonable force to stop these people ruining people's lives, causing millions of pounds worth of damage and even killing people while burning down buildings.

[=Lizzy]

So disgusting that people would do that.

[Kasabian]

Price of living certain to go up, again?

[Richie]

It's a bunch of idiotic thugs. I don't understand it though.

1) They've destroyed some part of peoples summer (due to not being able to go outside)
2) They've made more people apply for the dole because most likely more people will be out of work for sometime.
3) They've destroyed other peoples lives

They just seem to be selfish greedy thugs who like to make their country look bad and destroy others success because they've failed at life.

[Accipiter]

On the live stream its been reported that they're now attacking civilians, because attacking innocent people wasn't why you're rioting in the first place, you hypocritical, low life scum bags.

They should be forced to work for this country with out pay and with minimal living.

[beth]

On the live stream its been reported that they're now attacking civilians, because attacking innocent people wasn't why you're rioting in the first place, you hypocritical, low life scum bags.

They should be forced to work for this country with out pay and with minimal living.

attacked staff in tesco, five ways birmingham. no idea why.

[flatface]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/08/article-2023554-0D58092100000578-48_964x554.jpg

pahaa wonder if she looted the jumper?

[Accipiter]

The media will be coming across slightly racist here, all i've seen is pictures of black people rioting!

All this is to these children is an adrenaline rush cause by peer pressure cause by some total **** up thats got out of hand.

[lawrawrrr]

just got a text saying they reached the next town over from us, only small-scale right now (that's Eltham btw) which is SE London suburbs. They're practically round the whole UK now... getting completely out of hand, people don't even know why they started any more, they're just enjoying the violence.

[Stephen]

I don't think the childrens hospital thing is true. On twitter people are saying the hospital has been burnt down lmao

[Jordan:A]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/08/article-2023554-0D58092100000578-48_964x554.jpg

pahaa wonder if she looted the jumper?

Don't think her staff discount was enough

[Neversoft]

I don't think the childrens hospital thing is true. On twitter people are saying the hospital has been burnt down lmao

They're also saying that the army is assembling at Bank and there is a fake image going around rofl.

[Calvin]

Apparently turkish shopkeepers in Dalston are beating the thugs up, that's the way!

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg740/scaled.php?tn=0&server=740&filename=9a0wk.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

[xxMATTGxx]

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/1312847919.jpg

[Richie]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/08/article-2023554-0D58092100000578-48_964x554.jpg

pahaa wonder if she looted the jumper?

Why is the guy on the right trying to put a pole up his bum.

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[Slowpoke]

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/1312847919.jpg

It's like something out of a d-day film

[lawrawrrr]

"Buses were diverted as the violence spread to Bromley High Street"


THAT'S LIKE, REALLY NEAR ME. I'M GETTING SCARED NOW.

[Richie]

Some girl is like "I'm getting my taxes back" it's like shut up *****, you're on the dole.

The only tax she pays is for her milk.

[Jordan:A]

ITV just tweeted the following

Lots asking about Birmingham Children's Hospital rumours - just spoken to them they've had "no trouble - all is safe & quiet"

@ITVCentral

It appears the hospital is okay for now.

That is good news.

[lawrawrrr]

Watching the live BBC report, only 35 have been arrested... that's not very many ;S

[Slowpoke]

ITV just tweeted the following

Lots asking about Birmingham Children's Hospital rumours - just spoken to them they've had "no trouble - all is safe & quiet"

@ITVCentral

It appears the hospital is okay for now.

That is good news.

Fantastic news. I've heard rumours that the hospital has a heavy police presence about it - as do many hospitals in affected areas.

Tried and failed at going to bed. I'm at 06.30 too

[Accipiter]

Watching the live BBC report, only 35 have been arrested... that's not very many ;S

I'm hearing 215 arrests, 25 people charged

[Richie]

Watching the live BBC report, only 35 have been arrested... that's not very many ;S

The sad thing is, many of them will get away with it.

[lawrawrrr]

OMG THE CAPTION...

"PM cut holiday short due to the situation"

oh dear... xD

[Slowpoke]

Watching the live BBC report, only 35 have been arrested... that's not very many ;S

The number of people arrested is far higher. I heard that '35' is the number of people that have been charged. That being said, how do you expect the police to get into those crowds and safely arrest people?

[lawrawrrr]

The sad thing is, many of them will get away with it.

Yep. I think that's actually urging them to join in - they can get free stuff and there's a decent chance they won't get caught.


The number of people arrested is far higher. I heard that '35' is the number of people that have been charged. That being said, how do you expect the police to get into those crowds and safely arrest people?


I'm hearing 215 arrests, 25 people charged

On second read it was 35 arrested tonight in London. The chief commissioner just made an appeal too to get spectators off the streets. He said they are arresting more people though.

[Accipiter]

The number of people arrested is far higher. I heard that '35' is the number of people that have been charged. That being said, how do you expect the police to get into those crowds and safely arrest people?

A good burst of fire should do the trick

[Chris]

Fantastic news. I've heard rumours that the hospital has a heavy police presence about it - as do many hospitals in affected areas.

Tried and failed at going to bed. I'm at 06.30 too

Thats brilliant. Would be sick if it came under attack.

[RyRy]

Madness has hit London. Loving the reports about the girl who said she's getting her taxes back, she needs to pay them to get them back! Apparently there's bugger all police about though, according to the Deputy Mayor of London it was like just enough to host a major public event? I mean this isn't really a major public event is it. It's a bit bigger than that...

[Slowpoke]

A good burst of fire should do the trick

How is that safe :S

[Kasabian]

Just heard Paul Gascoine is on his way to London. Armed with a can of stella, a box of chicken and a fishing rod.

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[RyRy]

"Reports that a man has been shot in the head and killed in Croydon tonight. #londonriots (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23londonriots) #croydon (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23croydon)"

UH OH.

[Accipiter]

Shooting the rioters...

I genuinely wouldn't give a damn, rather now than later when the damages increase, just a shame war would start because it'd be seen as genocide, shame.

[FlyingJesus]

If there's any shooting going on NOW it's almost certainly civilian on civilian crime surely, if the report is even true

[Jordan]

"Reports that a man has been shot in the head and killed in Croydon tonight. #londonriots (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23londonriots) #croydon (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23croydon)"

UH OH.

Oh my god, thats going to help the situation greatly..

[Accipiter]

Should have probably quoted someone there so I wasn't misread >_>

[GommeInc]

One persons wrong doing doesn't make the wrong doings of many others acceptable. The people rioting and destroying are all guilty, and are worse than the officer who shot dead a man. They deserve what is coming to them, and I am amazed the police don't just open fire on the lot of them - their actions are unjustified. In what world is destroying the property of innocent individuals, as well as scaring them, a justifiable cause? The problem is with the police, not the innocent people who are not involved - assuming the police are completely guilty and the intentions were on purpose.

Natural selection should of done away with these barbarians years ago. The countless years of imbreeding are beginning to show.

[Slowpoke]

I refuse to believe that the police have shot anyone. As far as I'm aware, they haven't even been given permission to use rubber bullets, never mind proper bullets. As Tom said, it'll be civilian on civilian (if true at all)

[RyRy]

"Gareth Furby, BBC News, London Gangs of masked youths are roaming the streets with petrol bombs in Clapham Junction"

Hmm, this is getting all a bit much.

[Accipiter]

If thats at me, I'm saying they should open fire on them, not they have!

Why isn't tear gas being used? Or has that also been banned by the EU

[lawrawrrr]

I did read something earlier which said that the police had permission to use some sort of gas.

[RyRy]

They can't harm them, it's human rights. It's suicide to be a police officer in what's going on right now:

http://a.yfrog.com/img640/9831/53ymv.jpg

:/ I mean the police are supposed to be peace keepers, arrest those who break laws but they're not kitted out for this on such a massive scale too. They're gonna have to bring the army out if they wish to contain the situation, it's the only way.

[Kasabian]

Tear gas should have been used, along with water canons, truncheons, tasers, riot control bullets(rubber).

Also, just heard on Sky News "a guy had looted a pc, and waited for the man to go green to cross the road." LMFAO.

[Accipiter]

Don't know why they don't call in fire services to soak them too, unless this IS going on but footage isn't showing it, but atm it seems like all im seeing is men holding shields...

[GommeInc]

Human rights should be taken away from people who cannot grasp reality and are breaking the human rights of others. They're not rioting due to freedom of expression, they're being monkeys throwing faeces at each other. They're acting like a bunch of apes who have been handed matches and petrol bombs. They relieved themselves of any right the moment they started destroying the property of innocent people.

[jackass]

It annoys me how little the good side are allowed to do! If a firm hand was permitted, none of this would be a problem right now.

[Kasabian]

Don't know why they don't call in fire services to soak them too, unless this IS going on but footage isn't showing it, but atm it seems like all im seeing is men holding shields...

Standing off too.

[RyRy]

Ah ****, starting to hear rumours of police cars preparing for something in Bristol. :/

[lawrawrrr]

Predictions on next cities? Seems to have missed most of the West of England so I guess it's gonna hit Reading, Bristol etc next...

[RyRy]

Predictions on next cities? Seems to have missed most of the West of England so I guess it's gonna hit Reading, Bristol etc next...

I've already heard somethings happening in Manchester, wouldn't be surprised it's only an hour from Birmingham where it's proper kicked off.

[Kasabian]

Imagine how cut off you'd feel if they shut down Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr right now.

http://c0013899.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_79f127c

****. This was Weatherspoons in Woolwich :(

[Jordan]

Won't go much further than Bristol, possibly Plymouth but the south west isn't that crazy really. This needs to be sorteedd

[Jordan:A]

Don't know why they don't call in fire services to soak them too, unless this IS going on but footage isn't showing it, but atm it seems like all im seeing is men holding shields...
I think they're keeping them on standby in case of serious fires.
They should be allowed to use tazer guns though...

[Markeh]

Expecting it to occur in Nottingham yet. Doubt Mansfield or my village will be hit, thank god.

[Kasabian]

Predictions on next cities? Seems to have missed most of the West of England so I guess it's gonna hit Reading, Bristol etc next...

Major cities like Bristol, Newcastle, Nottingham & Manchester are all preparing for something.

[RyRy]

Won't go much further than Bristol, possibly Plymouth but the south west isn't that crazy really. This needs to be sorteedd

Plymouth won't be hit, it's too out of the way & everyones too drugged up to their eyeballs to even care.

Yeah facebook events of riots in Nottingham & Manchester coming to fruitation, no surprise there.

[lawrawrrr]

Imagine how cut off you'd feel if they shut down Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr right now.

http://c0013899.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_79f127c

****. This was Weatherspoons in Woolwich :(

tumblr is terrible for quick updates on serious news but twitter and facebook. omdz i wouldnt know anything!!

EUGH KEN LIVINGSTONE ON BBC BLAMING IT ON THE EDUCATION. GO AWAY you stupid man.

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LOL.

[Slowpoke]

Manchester and Preston in the NW seem likely

[RyRy]

Manchester and Preston in the NW seem likely

Preston seems too small for it. It'll be the highly populated places that get hit the most. I don't think Scotland will get any hit of it though, unless some idiots in Glasgow decide that the price of alcohol is too much & start a riot about it.

It's the only reason I can possibly think of.

[Slowpoke]

Preston seems too small for it. It'll be the highly populated places that get hit the most. I don't think Scotland will get any hit of it though, unless some idiots in Glasgow decide that the price of alcohol is too much & start a riot about it.

It's the only reason I can possibly think of.

I have my reasons to believe Preston could be a hotspot but I don't know how to air that view without sounding inappropriate or racist, so I won't.

[RyRy]

"West Ham says Carling Cup match v Aldershot is postponed at request of London police - SkySports"

This isn't a racial riot, it started with meaning and now it's just mindless destruction.

[Kasabian]

More buildings have been set a blaze in Croydon.

Several shops looted in Birmingham, Bullring's defense broken and shops looted there.

Several riot vans on every street, 100's of youths with skii masks etc on.

[RyRy]

Reports of incidents in Liverpool :( :( :( :( Heartbroken.

[lawrawrrr]

"West Ham says Carling Cup match v Aldershot is postponed at request of London police - SkySports"

This isn't a racial riot, it started with meaning and now it's just mindless destruction.

It's not for a racial cause, but from all the reports I've heard, the majority of the rioting is. Although now they're all turning up masked.

I like this guy's definition of the riots becoming 'opportunistic', people joining in because they can.

Riots hit Ealing, West London, but it's been heavily policed already.

[Neversoft]

Funny how Cameron was the only one during the election to say that if someone invades your property, they leave their human rights at the doorstep, now all this is happening yet nothing seems to be getting done. I know he's away and there are all these rules, regulations and restrictions, but it has gone on far too long now.

[Kasabian]

Charlton Vs Reading has also been called off for tomorrow, due to police.

[RyRy]

It's not for a racial cause, but from all the reports I've heard, the majority of the rioting is. Although now they're all turning up masked.

I like this guy's definition of the riots becoming 'opportunistic', people joining in because they can.

Riots hit Ealing, West London, but it's been heavily policed already.

Ealing stations been closed already. Nah this is totally anti-governmental, this isn't racism at all especially with how people are joining in. And even then, I don't think there is much reason for it to go on other than for destructive and profitable reasons.

Yeah area near Toxteth in Liverpool, reports of cars on fire and alot of police. Oooo blimey.

[Kasabian]

These riots no longer have a cause(as Tom said), it's just people with the intent to loot and cause criminal damage.

[Slowpoke]

Reports of incidents in Liverpool :( :( :( :( Heartbroken.

I've heard this too but wasn't expecting it!

[Judas]

Just heard a man has been shot in the head and killed in Croydon... praying it's not true.

http://c0013899.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_79f3284

This is so horrible, I hope it ends soon. Really sickening that so many people are willing to do this.

[Kasabian]

Just heard a man has been shot in the head and killed in Croydon... praying it's not true.

http://c0013899.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_79f3284

This is so horrible, I hope it ends soon. Really sickening that so many people are willing to do this.

There was a rumour earlier he was shot in the head/face.

Totally agreed.

[RyRy]

These riots no longer have a cause(as Tom said), it's just people with the intent to loot and cause criminal damage.

Innit m8.


I've heard this too but wasn't expecting it!

Reports of gangs forming in bits of Liverpool too, I mean I wasn't expecting it but Liverpool is no stranger to riots and more importantly, the strain of the recession which looting would mostly ease that... Totally opportunistic.

[iBlueBox]

Is there any in Liverpool?

[RyRy]

Is there any in Liverpool?

Toxteth area, down Lodge Lane, cars set on fire and large police presence.

Only benefit of these riots? http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nandos-Defence-League-NDL/214750535219798 THE NANDOS DEFENCE LEAGUE :3

[Hollie.]

This is so scarey, its near me :(

[Kasabian]

Possibility of the England v Holland game being called off on Wednesday?

Riots like these happened in the 70s/80s when the torries were in power, and they lasted a week or two.

[RyRy]

"We've had to pull out of London Road Croydon after our satellite truck was attacked by rioters. Crew very shaken, no police in sight" coming from a Sky news reporter.

Get the ******* army down there, the police clearly are fighting a losing battle!

lol Nick Griffin reporting on the case:

"100's of Turks clashing with blacks in Stoke Newington."

Why Nick why

[Kasabian]

"We've had to pull out of London Road Croydon after our satellite truck was attacked by rioters. Crew very shaken, no police in sight" coming from a Sky news reporter.

Get the ******* army down there, the police clearly are fighting a losing battle!

Apparently waiting for mr cameron to get back from his holiday.

******* stupid.

[Jack.Lfc]

Toxteth area, down Lodge Lane, cars set on fire and large police presence.

Only benefit of these riots? http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nandos-Defence-League-NDL/214750535219798 THE NANDOS DEFENCE LEAGUE :3

roumers.

Why would anyone want to wreck there own community silly *******s.

[RyRy]

roumers.

Why would anyone want to wreck there own community silly *******s.

Toxteth riots mate, it's not like those tensions have magically disappeared.

[Jack.Lfc]

Could be happening idk but the internet is just rumer central at the mo.

[Kasabian]

2338: Camden station on fire now, Chalk Farm station closed. Ealing shopping centre is supposedly on fire now as well, according to the BBC.

[RyRy]

2338: Camden station on fire now, Chalk Farm station closed. Ealing shopping centre is supposedly on fire now as well, according to the BBC.

Tower Bridge also being hit apparently. How many people are there?!

[GommeInc]

I have my reasons to believe Preston could be a hotspot but I don't know how to air that view without sounding inappropriate or racist, so I won't.
May as well share them. It's only rude if its targeting people or is written rudely and out of context.

[beth]

i asked my dad why we didn't bring the army in and he thinks it'd just cause more trouble.

[RyRy]

i asked my dad why we didn't bring the army in and he thinks it'd just cause more trouble.

I get what your dads saying, but the army are more prepared for this kind of thing. If we can call out the army for when we get stuck in a bit of snow, we can do it for this.

[Firehorse]

A guy was seen carrying a Samurai sword and apparently someone robbed JD in Tottenham and left their CV on the counter LOL

[Jack.Lfc]

Can confirm its kicking off here

[lawrawrrr]

Most commonly looted shops? Restaurants (mostly junk food), electronics and SPORTSWEAR.


... and fortnum and mason's.

[GommeInc]

I get what your dads saying, but the army are more prepared for this kind of thing. If we can call out the army for when we get stuck in a bit of snow, we can do it for this.
What can they do the police cannot? If anything it's to add more men, but by doing that you'll only get more casualties and from what was experienced at the London student riots, you'd only get them causing more problems - the rioters/looters would be more defensive with a larger police presence.

That said, the people coming out of the wood work and causing the fuss are the sorts of Brits we should be focusing on eliminating - they're clearly uneducated. This unwanted behaviour is only causing them problems. Facebook, Twitter and the country do not condone this action, so they're fighting a losing battle.

[RyRy]

Can confirm its kicking off here

Where abouts? :l

[Camy]

Really cba reading 23 pages, but it's crazy. How do people think this'll help their cause, its most likely just idiots who just like causing trouble who'll have started this, not the people who were peacefully protesting.

Police should be using rubber bullets and tear gas to get this under control for a start.

[RyRy]

What can they do the police cannot? If anything it's to add more men, but by doing that you'll only get more casualties and from what was experienced at the London student riots, you'd only get them causing more problems - the rioters/looters would be more defensive with a larger police presence.

That said, the people coming out of the wood work and causing the fuss are the sorts of Brits we should be focusing on eliminating - they're clearly uneducated. This unwanted behaviour is only causing them problems. Facebook, Twitter and the country do not condone this action, so they're fighting a losing battle.

Well they're numbers for one, something which the police are needing right now against all this. I thiiiink they also have water cannons do they not? That'd go down a treat.

[Jack.Lfc]

Where abouts? :l

Where you said

[RyRy]

Where you said

Where did you get confirmation? Pics? :x

[Jack.Lfc]

Where did you get confirmation? Pics? :x
http://t.co/nkBIPFE yfrog.com/khyuwcjj (http://t.co/cAHZnqL)

[RyRy]

http://t.co/nkBIPFE yfrog.com/khyuwcjj (http://t.co/cAHZnqL)

****. Cheers, may have to get in touch with some of my mates up there. :(

[Jack.Lfc]

Theres moer on his timeline too.

[lawrawrrr]

i just heard an explosion in the distance. im actually getting scared now...

[RyRy]

Theres moer on his timeline too.

Just saw, this isn't good at all. That's only gonna gain momentum tonight, and possibly tomorrow night even worse.

[Firehorse]

The pub opposite debenhams in clapham is now on fire apparently. Again it is a building with many flats above it.

[Jack.Lfc]

Picton Joubert broken into and attempts of fire Liverpool riot

getting these off the guy posting pics

[Kasabian]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmu03Foyw1r1p3wro1_400.jpg

Reports that a police station, said to be the Holyhead Road one in Handsworth has been set ablaze and that this is a picture of it. Things appear to be escalating around the imminent area.

[RyRy]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpmu03Foyw1r1p3wro1_400.jpg

Reports that a police station, said to be the Holyhead Road one in Handsworth has been set ablaze and that this is a picture of it. Things appear to be escalating around the imminent area.

Bloody hell.

[Jordan:A]

I think they're moving away from Birmingham now, there's not been that many now..

[Jack.Lfc]

2 cars and van on fire here.

Meant to be heading to Liverpool 1 shopping centre.

[sdbw1]

IOts all in london there just raiding and looting set primark on fire omg its well badddd

[Niall!]

Jesus christ. I heard about riots earlier but never guessed it would escalate so much.

Might be completely unrelated but a few of my friends have been saying there's some trouble in Belfast, nothing major though. Just a few chavs shouting about "revolution"