So is my house and road to it less ****** up now? lol And oh em ef gee. Didn't think dangerous mobs could spawn on SMP!
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So is my house and road to it less ****** up now? lol And oh em ef gee. Didn't think dangerous mobs could spawn on SMP!
They do no damage on SMP as far as I know, but just a thought.. spawn cages (when allowed by the server) placed by players will only spawn pigs, but I wonder if one were to use the cuboid tool to copy/paste a dungeon spawn into daylight could one possibly make top-level spider farms :D
Yeah, I made a meat dispenser a while back, where inside the building were several pig spawners, with a LOT of pigs coming out of them. Only bad thing was, was that it crashed the server when you went near it. :(
My point is, this is the first and only time I have been seen in a negative way by a community.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
So it is fairly reasonable to assume that the odds are it is something wrong with this community and not me.
Here is my logical reasoning if you would like:
I added one place where I was purely a member (RaGEZONE).Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
In the section I use I am one of the best developers there (and this isn't self judged before you moan).
So just because I don't have awesome rank doesn't matter - this is about how I am viewed there.
Well if you consider the three points I previously mentioned, anyone with any understanding of probability will agree that the chances of it being anything other than the boat mod were quite low.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
As such, the flyRidgeFly plugin (which I last looked at about 3 days before) never even crossed my mind.
Also, I don't see how there being something that...
- Rapidly teleports the user.
- Runs server side.
- Extends server functionality
- Had never been discussed (that I had seen at least).
could in anyway be a reason to even consider it even similar to something that...
- Removes gravity and adds new control systems.
- Runs client side.
- Overwrites client functionality
- Had been discussed.
The only thing they have in common is that they both allow you travel the Y Axis easier.
flyRidgeFly doesn't even fly. You simple teleport as you fall.
And the reason I go into so much detail and effort is because I enjoy it.
I find it fun to forward on your responses to others* and then see their total disbelief at your total lack of reason.
* Ages range from 15-60+
If you really want to deny the logic and reason here then feel free to PM me.
If not we can end it here.
So now we're WRONG to not like you? My bad, I didn't realise that having a few guys on MTA sites like you meant everyone else had to, but congratulations on apparently only knowing people onlineQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
Gonna be honest that looks like 3Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1I added one place where I was purely a member (RaGEZONE).
Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
I could safely walk across hot coals by either going fast enough for it not to burn me or by wearing shoes. The outcome is the same despite a different method, it really doesn't take a genius to work this out. It really would have been much easier for you to just say "sorry, my mistake, I thought you were talking about a specific version" than to try using probability to come to the conclusion that none of us are capable of a Google search for an alternative - considering it had already been pointed out that the boat version was client side only, *+*pRoBaBiLiTy SaYs We WoUlDn'T kEeP oN tHiNkInG iT wOuLd WoRk AnD WoUlD iNsTeAd LoOk FoR sOmEtHiNg ElSe*+*. Hey look, I can use maths too, and mine makes actual senseQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
That is truly hilarious, you're so worked up about not being liked that you've decided to show some "followers" from totally outside the situation just how right you are(n't). Kid, if you were so convinced about your own points you wouldn't need to validate them with groupies, however old they may or may not beQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
Cecer1 is a good guy and decent programmer. He's been helping with this server, adding more features and trying to run it as efficiently and friendly as possible and everyone is having a go at him.
I don't even play this Minecraft game, but I've been following this thread and a lot of people are acting so childish towards each other.
No they aren't? Not everyone is having a go at him we just wish for the whole thing to stop in this thread so the thread can carry on being normal about Stuto's server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jahova
Not to state the obvious but you can't have an opinion about his conduct in this community if you haven't been a part of it. I fully accept that elsewhere he may well have been all the greatest things you could say of a programmer, but when entire ownership deals fall through because no-one here likes him, and when the server gets griefed heavily in retaliation to his poor handling of members, and when the server owner himself drops him from the project, it becomes quite clear that this was not his finest moment
Do people have a valid reason "not to like him"? For the short time that he's been here, he's been doing nothing but good from what I can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
The server gets "griefed" heavily because; It's probably fun to do so or the person is just childish and likes ruining the game for other people - it's an online game, lmao!
So you haven't actually read the thread like you said you had I'm guessing..
I've read about a dodgy backup system, banning people wrongly and houses being moved - hardly any major reasons not to like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
On topic; By the way, I've decided I'm going to give this game a try. Multiplayer should be fun :)
It's more his holier-than-thou attitude towards it all than the actual events tbh - never seen him admit to being wrong or sincerely apologise, even when he acknowledged that he'd burnt down someone's work multiple times or been the cause of huge server problems at the start.
But yeah, it's a really great game and despite what it may look like this is a pretty decent community for the most part, definitely worth the £8 or whatever it is the exchange rate brings it to now. Also the worlds are absolutely massive (the one on Stuto's server is 8x the size of Earth lol) so there ought to be a space somewhere for anything you'd possibly care to build :D
Look forward to playing, when's the server usually online?
Right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jahova
Mostly weekday evenings and all day weekends (GMT). Also we've found a vps but it isn't a possibility without donations at the moment.
Feather isn't working for me...I don't get it.
holdon, i'll come and enable it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verrou
Can I get onto the server via; http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp because getting onto servers using this method is free (for me atleast)?
That is for the classic version of the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Jahova
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Latest Cartograph:
http://fileserve.webshark.co/Minecra...ormal-day6.png
http://fileserve.webshark.co/Minecra...ormal-day6.png
Oh - never realised that!
Uh oh, I threw down those bridge blocks on SMP in front of me and now whenever I login it d/cs me because the server doesn't recognise the block type I guess D;
Well it looks like another map editing session for me -.-Quote:
Originally Posted by Verrou
Whats the block's id number please.
Na i didn't place it, I discarded them. So in 5 minutes they should despawn.
Well in that case i'll leave the server running and we can all try again in 5 mins :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Verrou
Yeh that area is bugged now it seems, others can get on in diff locations.
Indeed!
---------- Post added 27-10-2010 at 12:51 AM ----------
I'm back in and at spawn.
I'm kikabox btw xD
and i just got kicked off and can't get back on :(
EDIT: forget that, i'm on now xD
When do i get some blocks to play with ;D ?
Quote:
Funny how out of all the communities I have been part of this is the only one that has a negative view on me - must be something wrong with you lot.
soz it took so long for me to reply
my reply:
You didn't have moderator rights and no authority on those servers/forums. On this server, you acted like God and like you owned it all. We appreciate the work you've done/attempted but the whole "im so kwl" act in-client is what ruined you. Another reason is that you've burnt down building multiple times and never saw you apoligise, just make an excuse for it. Then a month later, you get moderator(ship) and you act like you're the most trusted on the server and think EVERYONE is untrusted.
A reply wasn't necessary...we'd gotten over it.
im in the server :)
It was a point that I needed to give.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verrou
Throughout this argument I have intentionally tried to avoid directly insulting your intelligence.
However, you appear to of avoiding any kind of restraint against doing so to me.
For this reason I shall start returning the favour.
No, they fact that 99.2% disagree makes you the odd ones out.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
0.8% is kind of a small minority. Just saying.
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
DKR Membership is staff invite only.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
They hardly give it out.
CrazyBob's CnR, I admit, this isn't quite so hard to get regular player status.
But if you act like a male reproductive organ then you won't get it.
So clearly they disagree with you too.
So yeah, one.
They are more different than they appear to a novice. Don't take it out on me because I know more about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
Sorry, did you say you did read my posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&shortQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
How is that not admitting I was wrong?
But if you really want me to describe it as a mistake then sure!
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&shortQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
I must of clearly not read your post correctly.
In the event that you do not understand what I am talking about I shall dumb it down.
The inaccurate description confused me! I made a mistake!
To be fair, this is the internet - home of the idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
It isn't that unlikely that this level of stupidity could of taken place.
I am not saying anyone here is that dumb, simply the average internet user can be.
I am not going to continue on this futile attempt at explaining why I thought it was the boat mod.
I have given plenty of details but you appear to lack the ability to make any use of it.
I am clearly wasting my time.
Sorry about overestimating your level of common sense.
That was a mistake on my part. I totally admit I was wrong about it.
I clearly lacked the brain capacity to see that you and my radiator are more closely related than I thought.
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&shortQuote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
As I said, which you failed to read... again, I simply do that as it is fun.
This is the reason Fail Blog works.
In no way do I need to be backed up by followers. We just enjoy laughing at you looking like an idiot.
Due to your moronically low understanding I feel the need to dumb it down even more...
:dance::dance::dance::dance:I DUZ 4 DA LULZ1!11!!:dance::dance::dance::dance:
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&shortQuote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Wow!
You still put the blame on ME because YOU destroyed peoples stuff?
I am so sorry for forcing you to click the mouse.
And you claim me to be the immature one?
Yeah, that is the same level of stupidity.Quote:
Police: Why did you you blow up the bus?
Suspect: Frank made me do it!
Police: How?
Suspect: He did something I didn't like
Because you disagree with my actions you take it out of everyone... wow, mature.
Also, poor handling of members?
Such as taking action against someone being bullied about their weight?
More people have committed suicide over internet bulling than people just being annoying.
I am not saying anyone here would feel the need to go that far, just showing how it is not acceptable.
I have no idea why that even caused such a big argument originally anyway.
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
Examples please?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Ermm, let me quote the exact same sentence...Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&shortQuote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
I have know Tom for years and I did apologise both in game and on MSN.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
And I believe I did apologise for the /eb crashes... despite the fact that it wasn't my wrong doing - just bad luck.
I also spent lots of time trying to sort that problem before I found cuboid.
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
Well, I didn't have moderator rights, that is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiizzz
Habbz: Full Owner Access (except finance).
Nabbo: Full Owner Access (except finance).
DKR: Member Powers (Which can be very easily abused - therefore to have it I must be trusted).
CrazyBob's CnR: Fair enough, I didn't have abusable powers. But I did get rewarded for being a decent player.
RaGEZONE: As I said, I am a useful member of the community. It doesn't really matter anyway. This was about how people see me and not what powers I had.
And if you really must know...
Habbz Database Details (as of roughly my 11th month)
Registered Accounts: 80,000+
Rooms: 125,000+
Furniture: 3,500,000+
Chat Log Entries: 8,725,000+
Considering I am a bad member of the community I think that is pretty good.
The only examples I can think of here are when I said stuff like "Who's awesome? xD".Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiizzz
This was in a joking manner. Funny how this is almost always taken as a joke except here...
I have already stated about this above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiizzz
I made "an excuse" for it when it was being used to insult my intelligence.
This "excuse" was basically explaining how it was by mistake.
I don't act like I am the most trusted, I simply know I can be trusted (more than I know anyone else can be) because... well... I can read my own thoughts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiizzz
I don't think everyone is untrusted - please explain how you came to this conclusion.
I quite clearly understood the percentages as my point was that being in the minority does not make our opinions invalid, especially when it's the view of the majority in this case. Achievement nulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
That doesn't change the fact that you were a mere member. Membership of the Stuto server could be said to be the same as that because you can't do anything until moved onto the correct player status, but I don't claim to have been in charge of the server just because I could build on itQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
The function is the same, which is the exact point. The difference in how they work has absolutely nothing to do with this. Achievement nulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
In both of these you make the excuse that it's my fault that you got it wrong somehow (as you're still doing), so no I don't take that as an admission at all. Achievements nulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
That's all I was looking for on this point - not excuses that blame us for apparently not being clever enough to look for alternatives to things that don't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
You do realise you've not actually proved me wrong on anything... right? Not sure what you have to laugh at when post after post you're showing yourself to be the one in the wrong. I'll let you give me an achievement here if it makes you smile that much, because I accept that I didn't merely repeat what you said and instead interpreted it a different way - somewhat like you with the flying situation, shockQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
You're the one blaming our apparent stupidity for you making wrong assumptions... I accept that I'm the one who caused the damage but yes, it was a reaction against you. I'm not claiming a moral high ground about it as that would be ridiculous, but the only case of true griefing I can of on the server that wasn't a response to you personally was Apple putting a couple of lava blocks in Graham's house after we used his house as a starting point for setting fire to the village, which hardly counts as it was going to burn anyway. Also no I didn't say you were immature, never actually said anything of the sort. I'm not gonna make fun little pictures about it but congratulations on putting words into my mouth. Achievement nulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
I accept this award happily as yes, I do disagree with your anti-bullying views. The action taken was not appropriate for the situation, especially considering the "victim" was the original aggressor in destroying my building (albeit accidentally) and then refusing to do anything to help, which is why it went that far as well you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
You clearly do not understand the principles behind a real apology. My sentence was not contradictory as the point was that even when you admit to the act, you make excuses and defer all blame away from yourself, as you've just done again. My 2nd burning down of the village (the bit where I dug under your building to do it) was "bad luck" as I wasn't planning for it to actually go forward at that point in time, I was merely trying to set it up for any future need, therefore by your logic it's not my fault. Nice one, achievement nulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
Your view is the majority? I'll just award you a new achievement.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
Besides, it doesn't make your opinions invalid - it makes them the minority.
And considering the size of the majority against you, I would consider in the whole I am a decent person.
As I said, this wasn't about my powers but about how I was seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
And being a member on DKR gives me quite a lot more than others.
http://dkrclan.com/?p=members
See for you self - Not exactly the thousands that go on it. And about a third of those are staff too.
You are not getting that a Member is not a mere member but a higher rank than guest.
I have been trusted with it and they haven't regretted it.
It may be the same to you, but it isn't to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Them working differently has everything to do with this as I took that into consideration when (unconsciously) making the decision.
I never said it was anyone's fault. If anyone's to blame it would be Dan due to not given a accurate description because he wasn't aware that it was different. But it is not his fault!Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
I know I said I would drop this part but I feel we are making headway now.
History Of This Argument
- Stuto: "Coming soon: Flying mod."
- Me: "That Flying Mod was client side, how do you plan on adding it?"
- Verrou: "So if the flying boat this is client side, can we install it and use it? Or what...I don't understand, because the demo video of it is filmed on a SMP server..."
- FlyingJesus: "Also: SMP flying mod"
- Me: "Well that flyRidgeFly is not a mod, it is a plugin. That is what confused me. And I already had it on my test list."
- FlyingJesus: "As for the flying thing, if you already had it in your test list why were you trying to be smug saying it's client side only and won't work? Or to go from the other angle, if you really believe it wouldn't work why was it in your test list? You can't claim that it being a different type of addition really threw you off that much, surely"
- Me: <DetailedDescriptionOfTheDifference> "So yes, I can quite fairly explain how I was mistaken."
- FlyingJesus: "I would seriously worry about my brain capacity if I had to focus so meticulously on such distinctions before being able to work out a very simple answer and instead would claim something can't be done knowing full well that it can"
- Me: <VeryDetailedDescriptionOfTheDifferenceWITHColourC oding> "Are you seriously saying I am of lower intelligence because I know the difference between the a mod and a plugin?"
- FlyingJesus: "Nope. Not what I said"
- Me: "Remember that I had just explained that a mod and a plugin at different. You then proceeded to reply with: <Red Quote> Now the fact that they are very different is clear to me - I didn't even have to think about it. Please explain any reason that I would of had to think it was not the boat mod?"
- FlyingJesus: "Because you knew there were others :S anyway I'm just repeating myself now and you'll still not getting it, so as Dan requested I'm stopping it here"
- Me: <YetAnotherDetailedDescriptionOfTheDifferenceWithB ulletPoints>
- FlyingJesus: <ExampleWithWalkingOnHotCoals>
When at any point did I blame anyone else for me misunderstanding? Nowhere! I simply explained why I had misunderstood.
You Just quote mined me:Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Real Quote:
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&shortQuote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
Despite the quote mining fail
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
I will reply as if you meant to quote:
As said above, I never blamed anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
And if that was all you was looking for then why did you moan at me about it for FOUR more replies?!Quote:
Originally Posted by CECER1
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
Well, taking the above (real) quote and my reply as an example I would come to the conclusion that you did not read my posts like you claimed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
There for I did in fact prove you wrong.
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
See above. This is why we all laugh about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Then you sir are clearly in the wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
It is pointless including other peoples actions as it was their choice, not mine.
If they had a problem with me they should of just left and complained here.
That is still shifting the blame to me though.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
The action was building powers disabled as a punishment (see below).Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
I then found out there was a mute command so that was used instead.
How is muting the person not an acceptable response to chat based bullying?
Here is an MSN chat log:
(17:56) Cecer: Dan
(17:57) Cecer has changed his/her status to Busy
(18:00) Dan | Meh. is now Offline
(19:52) Dan | Meh. : going for dinner in a mo
(19:52) Cecer: Well
(19:52) Cecer: Do you agree that Tom is out of order?
(19:52) Cecer: Aswell as flicker
(19:52) Dan | Meh. : do temp suspend or something
(19:53) Cecer: Flicker too?
(19:53) Dan | Meh. : your call
(19:53) Cecer: You are happy that it is fair though?
(19:53) Dan | Meh. : hmm
(19:53) Dan | Meh. : lets say until next server up... tomorrow
That doesn't make constant weight insults acceptable or even relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
A lot of damage was repaired and an apology of the bullying was refused to be given.
No evidence, no punishment. This is how justice is.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
You can't exactly take it out on me because BlockLogger had unknowingly failed... WHICH I FIXED!
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&shortQuote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&shortQuote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Oh wait...
http://tf-2.fr/ach.php?a=Achievement...1413&f=2&short
Sorry, my mistake. I got confused by you seemingly thinking you know everything about me.
at first i thought you were trolling
and then i stopped reading the long posts so it can't be trolling
so i ended up like this :BangHead:
Ok im going to add my 2 pence and continue with normal thread goings on:
i know this is me, i didn't refuse to help i merely declined until apologies were offered which never came because your blatent misrepresentation of accidents.Quote:
The action taken was not appropriate for the situation, especially considering the "victim" was the original aggressor in destroying my building (albeit accidentally) and then refusing to do anything to help, which is why it went that far as well you know.
Just to clear things up, i fixed the forest and iirc i got an apology. You didnt apologise so i did nothing towards the nature of helping you.
Can someone lock this thread...it's getting ridiculous.
Looks like CreeperCraft dodged a bullet :P
lol i've stopped reading cecer's posts now because it's simply mocking and targeting us with those achievement things
wat game is that :O
He's only aiming them at FlyingJesus from what I can see..Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiizzz
I never read any of them because it's a waste of time.