Do you know what it strikes me as, one of those inventions that people will look back on in twenty years and just cringe. Like when we think back to the original "mobile" phones, the huge suitcase ones.
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Do you know what it strikes me as, one of those inventions that people will look back on in twenty years and just cringe. Like when we think back to the original "mobile" phones, the huge suitcase ones.
it looks quite good tbh, doubt i'll be buying one though
itll be nothing like that at all, this is likely to revolutionize the way that we use the internet and word process etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio
How? In terms of using the internet, how is it different to an iPhone etc?
I wouldn't exactly give Apple sole credit for changing the personal computer industry with their iPad, but in ten years from now I guarantee a lot of us are going to be carrying around devices like the ipad with higher hardware specifications and which run a similar platform. They're just convenient for quick use, on the job, at school, for fun wherever you are. Some guy in an interview said the objective is to make the thing a computer but without the traditional computer feel (think he meant the hassle of booting, configuration panels, crappy application management, tedious lame tasks).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio
The real fun's going to start when these guys get good hardware, and also begin being able to connect to your peripherals wirelessly (imagine being on a bus using your tablet then arriving home, sitting it on your desk and continuing to use it but now through your 2 external monitors without having to plug anything in).
the people in the belfast apple shop will be so confused, because alot of people pronouse ipod 'ipad' anyway lol.
I think it will be very successful
The only thing i wont like about it is that you cant run programs like Photoshop...dreamweaver...etc...its technically a big iphone
and you also cant play habbo or anything of that sort
Nope, no Habbo at the moment because Apple's being stupid about Flash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexus
What i dont understand about apple
is that they take forever to add the simpleset things to something
take the iPhone for example
it took them 3 generations to put freakin voice recording on it
they should seriously put flash and shockwave etc... on the iPad
that would make it even more successful
Yup. Look how long it took them to introduce quad core chipsets to the iMac. I still buy their stuff but I swear sometimes I want to pull aQuote:
Originally Posted by Nexus
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/facepalm.jpg
(pardon the cliche)
I assume this is to maximise sales. When they release the first generation of a product and everyone buys it, they know everyone will buy the second gen as well. So they can save some of the features to put into the second gen and even further generations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexus
Look at the time between each of the iPod Nano releases. It wasn't very long because they probably have all the technology for the third or fourth generations even before the first one is released. I don't know how many generations of Nanos there are, but you get my point.
That's not an opinion? That's a lie :S Totally different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewish Bear
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I think it looks stupid tbh, iPod Touch's etc look good - giant ones, well, don't.
Looks pointless and to big to be honest.
It has pretty much the same things as an iPod Touch/iPhone, but is bigger...
Word process? It'll be dreadful in comparison to the typical and traditional keyboard and mouse... Having to pull up a keyboard on-screen to take over most of the screen would be annoying and not revolutionary at all - different, but not the be all and end all :/Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
As far as Apple are going, people are aware that Apple make crappy products on first release, then release obvious functions later on (still lagging behind with their iPhone though). It's slowly becoming a turn off, but won't do any serious problems in the future unless people give up and go for cheaper "better" alternatives that actually do all the jobs you want, have all the features that have been around since the stone age, freely (interact with anything and anyone). It seems to be the latest ding dong with the iPhone, no-one really cares anymore and they just hope the 4th Generation actually brings in REAL bluetooth (the one that syncs with any bluetooth device properly) and multi-tasking, something even the Sony Ericsson k800i has done since the beginning :/
10" is the worst size. It's too large to be really portable like an iPhone but not big enough to give you a "full" experience like a MacBook. A 15" version would would mean that several people could interact with the same environment at once, from a developers perspective it would be fantastic! Imagine using the Tablet as a board game or maybe a giant multiplayer game of Pacman!Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
well apple is obviously aware that this is where the computer industry is heading. within the next decade laptops are going to look significantly different, they are going to be touch pads like this. they'll basically just be screens that you can fold up and put in your pocket.
but this feels like theyre trying to get ahead in the game without having the actual features to back it up.
oh and as an american i dont understand the point people are making about the words "pad" and "pod" sounding the same? i mean they sound sorta similar but they are definitely as distinguishable from each other as they would be in any other accent?
Well,to me it's just like a giant Ipod touch.I dnt think I'm that interested in getting it at the moment but I'd like to have it to view my videos though
Found this pretty funny lol.
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7181/ipadvsblue.png
Well I laughed:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Demala
still want an iPad though..
lol Demala :P.
Yeah I really do hope people get fed up their lagging very soon so it might pressure them to speed it up. As it is, Apple can make whatever they want and people will buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Was it this that allows two people to see different things on the same screen from two perspectives? I saw that recently but can't remember what the product was.
Not sure on iPad, but certainly tempted with a tablet pc - time will tell :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
As many people have said, time will tell, after watching the keynote video I did become more impressed with it, the way it worked, ok correct it's a bigger iPhone, I do agree with this, but if you look at this iPad differently, for example the use in a family situation to show pictures, a big, light, portable, very clear screen for photos and movies to pass around, it's expensive but to some people who do a lot of things like that it's possible, another scenario could be a photographer wanting to show a potential client photos, from experience if you show up with an expensive item to show off your work the client is possible to accept you more as it shows your willing to invest money and event into it.
The iPhone is a personal item, and what I think is due to it being a bigger iPhone it's clouded peoples judgement a little in that this possibly isn't designed for a single person, it's designed for a family to use. Games for kids, word editing for parents, contacts for both, it's an expensive for possible management system for a busy family, it could be used several ways within a family and I think that's what Apple may have aimed it at.
an overstretched ipod. pointless.
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Originally Posted by DaveTaylor
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Originally Posted by cocaine
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The iPhone is a personal item, and what I think is due to it being a bigger iPhone it's clouded peoples judgement a little in that this possibly isn't designed for a single person, it's designed for a family to use. Games for kids, word editing for parents, contacts for both, it's an expensive for possible management system for a busy family, it could be used several ways within a family and I think that's what Apple may have aimed it at.
yes. an oversized ipod. a kfc increasing a regular sized bucket of chicken into a family sized bucket of chicken doesnt make it break into a new market. its still an oversized bucket of chicken.Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
ugh, no reasoning with people like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocaine
ignored.
So you're just going to totally claim ignorance to the fact that it has a faster processor higher screen rez, re-written applications including official "ibooking" and a heck of a lot better mail and itunes. I'm not saying it's going to be the best tablet ever but I am not silly enough to go ranting about how bad it's going to be without having tried it. Don't be the typical msfanboy!!!1111Quote:
Originally Posted by cocaine
cba to go through thread, but its basicaly a big ipod touch without 3g?
There are models with 3g.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andys
which will probably cost about an extra £100+ more?Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
$130 to be precise!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andys
whilst accusing me of ignorance you have infact blissfully contradicted yourself, claiming that im a microsoft fanboy, when in fact i have owned 3 apple products myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
and yes, while it does have a faster processor as you claim, that is to be expected with a bigger product, its obvious. bigger things would need faster components and internal hardware to make it work better. so yes, in some sense, it is just a bigger ipod.
Hardly. I expect the next iteration of the iPhone/iTouch to have a 1GHz processor. The processor increases every year in them and the 1GHz processor is the next natural step (Currently 833 MHz underclocked to 600MHz), it just so happens that the iPad is the first Apple Mobile device out this year which is why it's the first one with 1GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Indeed but I suspect few applications will take advantage of it. As an App developer I certainly won't be. Why would I develop an application for the High res iPad which can't run on iPhones and iTouches which have a much larger support base when I could just develop it for the iPhone and iTouch and upscale it to that. If you want to design a high res application you will have to redo all of the graphics (Unless it's openGL which most aren't).Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
The iBookStore is ok at best. The point is it's difficult to read books on screens like the iPad rather than traditional eBook readers because they work in a totally different way. Reading a book on the iPad is the same as reading one on a PC. Anyway considering the kindle and such are much cheaper than the iPad I'm not going to shell out £400 for an iPad am I? Oh and plus I don't think I've ever travelled and thought wow a book is too big to take with me so I'll take an even bigger device, the iPad. The only use it's going to have Book wise is for people who travel for months without going home and so need a lot of books with them, in which case the kindle is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Mail: If anything I'd say it's better on the iTouch and iPhone, it's a lot simpler with options to go advanced. I bought an iTouch when they first came out and I've use the mail app daily, have I ever needed any more options? No. As it is you get a list of the emails in your inbox and you can read them and open attachments and even search if you want to. That's all I'd ever use on my computer and thats all I'd ever use on my iTouch.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
iTunes: It looks cool on the iPad but simply isn't needed. The iPhone version once again is much simpler and easy to use. You search for what you want in the basic interface, find it, test it and download it.
No but you're the one claiming that mail and itunes are a "heck of a lot better" without trying it. He's simply judging it on it's concept which is flawed. It's you thats making more specific judgements without trying it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Oh ok, so if you don't like one apple product you are an MS Fanboy? I don't like it and I'm writing this message on a MacBook with a pile of Objective-C books next to it along with my iPod Touch. Am I an MS Fanboy?Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
No, it's not just a bigger ipod, it's a new product. I'm finding it exceedingly funny that you continue to say all it is, is a bigger iPod, when it even required a new SDK to develop on.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocaine
@FlyDuo ditch objc, learn java.
No it doesn't. It runs on the iPhone SDK the same as the iTouch and iPhone. It just requires you to update to 3.2 to support the larger screen size.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Try running Java on the iPhone, see how far you get. I know several other languages so I have no need to learn Java.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
its been answered alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
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No it doesn't. It runs on the iPhone SDK the same as the iTouch and iPhone. It just requires you to update to 3.2 to support the larger screen size.
looks like a big itouch
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i'll buy one just for the sake of having one.
SWT, GWT and android SDK.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyDuo
Advertised and even reviewed as a large iPod Touch. They may as well call it the iPod Touch XL and actually make a real tablet device. Steve Jobs, the idiot that he is, did a terrible job announcing it. He made references to the NetBook market and, like a fool, suggested it was to "bridge the gap" between the iPhone/iPod Touch and the MacBook, which it doesn't, as it lacks any true qualities of a MacBook or a device with a full working OS.
Think of it like this:
There is a review/look over the product on the BBC Website, and the main from Apple talking about it sounds so unconvinced by the product.Quote:
There a steep valley with two islands either side. One island is Hand Held Island, and the other is OS X Island. The iPod Touch XL is sitting in the city of Hand Held Island, having tea and drawfing over the iPhone and iPod Touch.
It such an underwhelmed product, and relies too much on other devices. If it was to sit in and bridge the gap between the Touch and the MacBook, it would be (mostly) independent. If you have a photographer and property developer take photos of homes to show to you, he may as well show you on the camera than look like a right boob who has to get out his MacBook/Laptop just to show you the pictures, seeing as you can't hook the darn thing up to the camera to transfer the pictures. It's pretty lame and laughable, really. The HP Tablet at least has USB connectivity, and will run on a lo-fi version of Windows 7, not Windows Mobile.