*DEBATE* Should Muslim women be allowed to wear veils that show just their eyes?

[Herman]

It's not socially acceptable i would say. If your in an Official building or a Government building they should take it off.

In an official or government building maybe yes, they should remove them, but you shouldn't ban the wearing of veil altogether.

[Acidulantes]

So you think we shouldnt be against them wearing veils, we should just let them be hypocritical and get away with being treated better than someone else because if theyre treated the same as everyone else they might have hurt feelings??

[Zazz]

How the hell are they treated better than anyone else?

Its spelt as Quran btw Liam

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How can they expect to have freedom if they have veils that segregates them from society

[scubadiva]

My vicar once said that she saw a Muslim women with a veil walking down the road. A car stopped at the traffic lights near where she was standing and the driver wound down the window and shouted abuse at her. My vicar went over to help and comfort the woman, but the Muslim woman wasn't really bothered, as she got that practically every time she went out wearing a veil.

This is exactly my point. Veils separate the Muslim community from the rest of the British community, and spark racist comments from SOME racist Brits, because they are an obvious sign that the person wearing it is a Muslim.

I have several Muslim friends, boys and girls. When we go out, they don't get racist remarks thrown at them, because they don't have a veil which shows everyone that they are Muslim.

I am in NO way saying that it is not allowed for Muslims (or members of any other religion for that matter) to show and be proud of their religion, but it's not really advisable in most areas of Britain, because there will most likely be racial remarks thrown at them.

[-Soph-]

I think they should be allowed, We wear whatever we want, so why can't they?
I don't see how a cloth of material could pose such a problem! I mean, its their lifestyle, How would you like it if you were asked to change your lifestyle because someone didn't like it? I'm sure you wouldn't take it well.

[Lucky]

they should be able to where the anywhere, its part of there religion and culture, its not fair just because they moved to london and they're all covered up they are treated different and everyone stares at them? they should be free to wear it, its there religion, its like us going to iran or somewhere and we have a cross and its on the new, christian in our country, ban cross's and chains, they should be able to wear it.


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its not part of their religion or culture it doesnt even say to wear head scalfs or veils it just says to extend their garments not look like terrorist suspects.

[Caution]

See, this is really annoys me actually.
If I was sitting speaking to someone with the veil thing over their head. I wouldn't feel very comfartable. I'd want to see them.

[BL!NKEY]

more like they come over to britain and USA and try ruining our freedoms we had a debate today about the veil in public state school's for my english orals and i was "racist" just for being against it.

I am sure they do not all come over to the USA with the desire to ruin your freedoms. They probably just want to experience the same freedoms as you do. You could have been born into a country without freedoms. If you were wouldnt you want to move to the USA or Britain?

no their just hippocrites if they dont like it they can go elsewhere.

The Muslims comming to America and the UK wearing veils are not the ones who are enforcing the laws that you cannot have crosses in Muslim countries. It is not their fault. You cannot group them in with their government because there is a big space between.

So you think we shouldnt be against them wearing veils, we should just let them be hypocritical and get away with being treated better than someone else because if theyre treated the same as everyone else they might have hurt feelings??

It is not letting them be treated better then anyone else. We have Handycap parking spaces. It is not because the government hates people who can walk, its because the handycap appriciate not having to walk far. The Muslims want to wear veils and they should be allowed to.

Its spelt as Quran btw Liam

There are lots of spellings because it is not an English word

Some spell it Koran and some Qur'an

How can they expect to have freedom if they have veils that segregates them from society

That is like saying how do you expect Blacks to have freedom because they have black skin. The population should accept them for what they are. It does not actually matter if they are segregated from society. They still have their own friends and culture. You are not forced to talk to them or anything.

See, this is really annoys me actually.
If I was sitting speaking to someone with the veil thing over their head. I wouldn't feel very comfartable. I'd want to see them.

I dont know if you regularry talk to Muslims in veils but if you were having a personal convertation then you could probably ask them to take it off. I dont think they need to take it off if you are asking them for directions off the street. The Muslims can understand eachother with the veils on so its not like it is a super secret language and we cannot tell what they are saying when they talk.