9/11 Conspiracies - What do you think happened? - [Closes 13/05/07]

[brodeo]

In my opinion i believe it's too early to even debate on things like this, the scars still run deep for some people.

[DiscoPat]

The government is always involved, terorists dont just pop out out of no where.

[brodeo]

The government is always involved, terorists dont just pop out out of no where.

Yes they do?

Radical Racial Cleansing > Extremists > Terrorists

[Sharpsterz]

*REMOVED* off muslims [as said on south park]

Edited by Garion (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter by using alterations of filtered words, thanks .

[Nixt]

The government is always involved, terorists dont just pop out out of no where.

No, they don't. However, they are around because anti-American feeling in the eastern Muslim countries arose during the Cold War. Terrorism stemmed from this feeling, and the fact that the extremist Muslims believe that the West are too interfering and conceited.

I don't know what happened, there is no doubt in my mind that terrorists were involved however I think it's pretty obvious that we are not being told the full story.

[Seatherny]

Some of you should watch Loose Change.

They said the plane hit the ground, bounced and hit the Pentagon.
Why was the grass perfect? It looked as if nothing had touched it. There wasnt a single mark.
Secondly, why did the hole in the pentagon where the plane hit, look nothing like a hole made by a plane? There was only 1 hole, where there should have been 3.
2 for the engines and 1 for the main body of the plan.
Why do the FBI refuse to release any tapes which show the plane hitting the pentagon?
Why did the FBI get all the security tapes from all the CCTV/offices near the Pentagon just after the "plane" crashed into the pentagon?
Why did the FBI tell all the staff etc who saw the "plane" hit, not speak about what they saw?
Why were several explosions heard in the twin towers?
Why were the bomb sniffing dogs removed a few weeks before the twin tower collapsed?
How could people sneak bombs into the twin towers undetected? - Well they started doing several unusual fire drill/security drills etc. They could have planted the bombs then. The Bomb sniffing dogs were removed after the first unusual drill.
Why was the same hot liquid found at the bottom of the twin towers and bottom of world trade 7 (which collapsed too)? These were of extremely high temperatures and are only caused by bomb explosions.
In Loose Change, you can clearly see bombs going off in the twin towers.
Why did the fire fighters and public inside the twin towers report seeing and hearing bombs?
Why were no US Officials allowed to fly on 9/11? - Even before the planes were hi-jacked?

I still think it was all planned by the Goverment.
The US goverment used to fund the Talbans years ago - for some security thing. So its the US who have created the terrorists.

The people who US goverment identified as the hi-jackers werent even on the plane. They were in their home countries etc on 9/11.

The US Govement say Bin Laden is left handed. They released a blurry tape in December that same year. They said they filmed it secretly, and it showed Bin Laden claiming to be the mastermind of 9/11. In that tape, he was using his right hand to write and eat.

[micky.blue.eyes]

I like this topic and I believe there is some kind of conspiracy, I don't know who did it and I don't think I want to know, but the people who did it are very clever. Maybe there were some insiders in the twin towers who could plant explosives, but there were explosives (as shown on most videos).

I agree with the people who said that every time something dramatic happens people will look for things to base a consperacy theory on, but there are just too many things here which aren't right.

i think that a group of terrorists got together planned to hijack a plane and drive into the twin towers im tired of all of these conspiracies why cant people just take what happened.

Because it didn't happen the way it's told.

No body knows for sure who done it, weather it was bush and his homies... Or a group of terorists As i said to people watch the link i posted last, it is all based on science and the most obvious things which you don't realise unless someone explains.

Some points:

-The way the buildings fell Straight down?
• All 4 corners would of had to fail at the exact same time or it would of fell Forward backward right or left
Also, in one of the videos it shows that one of the towers started to fall down straight, then it started to lean over but then it mysteriously changed back and continued to fall down straight.
• The miniture explosions as it fell down, similar to an implosion.

- The pentagon
• No obvious signs of a plane
• The whole was to small for a plane
• "It bounced of the lawn" - Why wasnt the lawn marked then
Securit camera images show something which is nowhere near the size of a large plane.

- Sciency stuff
• The fire shouldent of been hot enough to melt the steel frames
• Something to do with newtons law or something like that, a formula which tells how long it would take for an object to collapse or somethign similar.

Just watch the video, I can't remember all of it ^^^ There some of the things explained in it.

(Added some stuff in green. )


Other points:
- A third tower collapsed but it wasn't struck by a plane or even burning.
- If the government has nothing to do with it (or other powerfull people), why won't the government release videos from security cameras they took from cameras aimed at the pentagon and other videos?
- The police in helicopters were ordered not to save people from the building and to get away from the building. (I think it was the police, the video will tell you this)
- The twin towers fell after about 10 minutes, other buildings burned for a much longer time and never fell down.
- The twin towers were build to survive these fires.

I can't be bothered to type more points, just watch the video.

[Jazza]

As there were explosions at the base of the tower I think there were the planes plus some suicide bombers

[beth]

Some of you should watch Loose Change.



They said the plane hit the ground, bounced and hit the Pentagon.
Why was the grass perfect? It looked as if nothing had touched it. There wasnt a single mark.
Secondly, why did the hole in the pentagon where the plane hit, look nothing like a hole made by a plane? There was only 1 hole, where there should have been 3.
2 for the engines and 1 for the main body of the plan.
Why do the FBI refuse to release any tapes which show the plane hitting the pentagon?
Why did the FBI get all the security tapes from all the CCTV/offices near the Pentagon just after the "plane" crashed into the pentagon?
Why did the FBI tell all the staff etc who saw the "plane" hit, not speak about what they saw?
Why were several explosions heard in the twin towers?
Why were the bomb sniffing dogs removed a few weeks before the twin tower collapsed?
How could people sneak bombs into the twin towers undetected? - Well they started doing several unusual fire drill/security drills etc. They could have planted the bombs then. The Bomb sniffing dogs were removed after the first unusual drill.
Why was the same hot liquid found at the bottom of the twin towers and bottom of world trade 7 (which collapsed too)? These were of extremely high temperatures and are only caused by bomb explosions.
In Loose Change, you can clearly see bombs going off in the twin towers.
Why did the fire fighters and public inside the twin towers report seeing and hearing bombs?
Why were no US Officials allowed to fly on 9/11? - Even before the planes were hi-jacked?

I still think it was all planned by the Goverment.
The US goverment used to fund the Talbans years ago - for some security thing. So its the US who have created the terrorists.

The people who US goverment identified as the hi-jackers werent even on the plane. They were in their home countries etc on 9/11.

The US Govement say Bin Laden is left handed. They released a blurry tape in December that same year. They said they filmed it secretly, and it showed Bin Laden claiming to be the mastermind of 9/11. In that tape, he was using his right hand to write and eat.

in response to this; i totally agree with maddox.
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[FlyingJesus]

Planes hit buildings and they fell over.